Deca, Sustanon, T-Bol and Winstrol Tabs... help??

[xvvfacevvx]

Sorry bro, but you havent made any gains naturally. So this tells me that you dont know how to eat/train, try putting on at least 15lbs natty before this next cycle....although 15lbs is waaay under what I think someone should be able to gain natty before juicin.

[thedon_1985]

Originally Posted by xvvfacevvx

Sorry bro, but you havent made any gains naturally. So this tells me that you dont know how to eat/train, try putting on at least 15lbs natty before this next cycle....although 15lbs is waaay under what I think someone should be able to gain natty before juicin.

I hear ya man, and I completely agree. My whole entire family and extended family are very thin people. Not that I'm using that as an excuse... but its a fact. I naturally really don't have a big appetite. I've tried to stuff my face, I've attempted to drink a lot of protein, etc. But it just makes me wanna throw up.

The only real time that I've ever had a huge appetite was when I did my first cycle... and of course the GHRP-6.

I even tried the B-12... doesn't do shit

[bcolby]

hcg starts to lose potency after a month and is still good to use after.

i would agree with xvvfacevvx, you cant try to eat enough food and protein, its something you just have to do. i drink 50g in the morning and night, plus a weight 1000 cal weight gainer in the afternoon. i eat 3 squares plus apples and peanut butter and tuna in between. this is the minimum...

do yourself a favor and start a program like that. get to at least 190 before you start and continue throughout you cycle to eat properly. im the same way, have the hardest time eating and im regreting not having the proper diet before i started. this maybe why you loose all your gains off cycle.

[BiggJuicy82]

NO. I think you are too small, too inexperienced and too young to run a cycle like this. How about, Test E 500mgs a week. Weeks 1-12. Then standard pct. AI on hand.

[xvvfacevvx]

Originally Posted by thedon_1985

I hear ya man, and I completely agree. My whole entire family and extended family are very thin people. Not that I'm using that as an excuse... but its a fact. I naturally really don't have a big appetite. I've tried to stuff my face, I've attempted to drink a lot of protein, etc. But it just makes me wanna throw up.

The only real time that I've ever had a huge appetite was when I did my first cycle... and of course the GHRP-6.

I even tried the B-12... doesn't do shit

I understand about being an ectomorph, there are TONS of people on this board including myself that started with a 130 some pound frame. The reality of this is your cycle is going to be a complete waste if you don't consume the proper amount of calories. Just stick with a TEST cycle 400mg a week is probably more than enough. I was running 500mg a week and my t levels were past 4500, I believe smaller guys dont need to run as much as the 220+ guys...........Good luck brosive.