How do i get rid of these bitch tits?

[jc21atown]

I've been off the gear for about 9 months, and I started noticing some gyna about three months ago. I dont really have noticable tits, but big lumps under both nipples. I've got a 50ml vial of nolva, Ive been takin 20-25mgs aday for about a week, I think its gettin better, but i just wondered whats the best thing to reverse this, arimidex, clomid, hcg, nolva, proviron? I would apreciate any feed back on this. Thanks

[jstforme]

are they painfull? if so its actually tumors, but still is gyno. nothing to be worried about, i got them on my first cycle when i ran hcg and i dont think i needed it, too much estrogen after pct was done and i got it. i simply started taking i think 30-40mg nolvadex and it went away. you should start taking 40mg nolvadex a day untill it goes away. good luck

[jc21atown]

Thanks, I appreciate it.

[GdUp]

Contrary to some people's beliefs, gynecomastia does not go away. The only thing that makes it go away is by having it removed by a surgeon. Gynecomastia is female-like breast tissue. It is not fat but actually the same substance that makes up female's tits, boobs, breasts, etc. Trust me. I have had gyno removed from my left and right side. Surgery is the only way, unless they have invented some kind of tit dissolving substance that somehow I am not aware of, but I doubt it. If I am wrong, somebody please bring me up to date. I don't mean to be mean, just realistic.

[Max4ce]

Contrary to some people's beliefs, gynecomastia does not go away. The only thing that makes it go away is by having it removed by a surgeon. Gynecomastia is female-like breast tissue. It is not fat but actually the same substance that makes up female's tits, boobs, breasts, etc. Trust me. I have had gyno removed from my left and right side. Surgery is the only way, unless they have invented some kind of tit dissolving substance that somehow I am not aware of, but I doubt it. If I am wrong, somebody please bring me up to date. I don't mean to be mean, just realistic.
That sounds right.....I've had a lump under my right nipple since my 2nd cycle around 4 years ago, taking nolvadex 40mgs made it go down to nothing, but I can still feel where the lump was and I aggrevated it again on the last cycle I did......took nolvadex 40mgs and it went away again, both times it took 2 weeks to go down....Good luck, Max

[Alin]

I've been off the gear for about 9 months, and I started noticing some gyna about three months ago. I dont really have noticable tits, but big lumps under both nipples. I've got a 50ml vial of nolva, Ive been takin 20-25mgs aday for about a week, I think its gettin better, but i just wondered whats the best thing to reverse this, arimidex, clomid, hcg, nolva, proviron? I would apreciate any feed back on this. Thanks

run the nolva 60mg day until symptoms subside.

[jstforme]

Contrary to some people's beliefs, gynecomastia does not go away. The only thing that makes it go away is by having it removed by a surgeon. Gynecomastia is female-like breast tissue. It is not fat but actually the same substance that makes up female's tits, boobs, breasts, etc. Trust me. I have had gyno removed from my left and right side. Surgery is the only way, unless they have invented some kind of tit dissolving substance that somehow I am not aware of, but I doubt it. If I am wrong, somebody please bring me up to date. I don't mean to be mean, just realistic.

contrary to your belief, gynecomastia can go away, if treated properly, the key is to attack right when symtoms occur. do you think we are all just fooled into buying antis for no reason? surgery is for those who never took the time out to understand how to prevent and or treat in time. i havent heard yet of anyone who has been on steroids and a good anti and got non-treatable gyno.

[GdUp]

Once again, female breast tissue does not go away. The fat surrounding the female breast tissue can go away, making one believe the female tissue is subsiding, but the female breast tissue is still there. People use anti-estrogen so that this does not happen. The aromatase enzyme causes testosterone to be converted to estradiol which in turn converts to estrogen or hits the estrogen receptor by itself. High amounts of estrogen in the body makes the nipple tender, indicating the anabolism (growing) of female breast tissue. This is why females get tender breasts at certain times during their menstrual cycle. Anti-estrogens stop the growth of this breast tissue but does not reverse it. Again, the only possible way to totally get rid of gynecomastia is surgery. In my case, the surgeon missed a small portion of the female breast tissue, and it regrew, but only on the inside of the breast. The outer portion could not grow because the female like breast tissue was removed. I believe that there is a gland there that must be removed. This I am not sure as I have heard about gynecomastia coming back after the surgery, so surgery is not a one time deal. Estrogen levels must be kept in check at all times. Trust me on this. I am not bullshiting you.

[jesse1303]

I have had this problem since way before any gear, like anything in the human body it can differ between people. I thoroughly believe that gyno is a term used to describe a couple different types of problems in the male breast that have several types of solutions. It sounds like you have a very minimal problem, something sore to touch and the size of a half dollar or quarter? Most likely conquered by good PCT, and knowledge before a stack. This can be a 'tumor', a term used very loosely to describe a number of things. Something like that is most likely to go away with nolva, its known as a lumpy type gyno. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/archive/index.php/t-410381.html , this web page does a good job of providing a study on lumpy type gyno and nolva. But if you squeeze the breast while flexing and the excess skin and tissue underneath feels soft and slightly nubby like a woman's breast (if you dont know what that feels like, rent one) and not painful to touch, it isnt going to go with any pct.

After using several different test and test inducing products, you know when gyno is going to hit right? am I the only one that gets sore nipples when the shit is getting converted???

Anyone that has the last kind of tissue and is reading this post because of the word 'gyno' read on... I have been down to 8% bf a few times and have still been unable to take my shirt off at a beach. Then I have also been at around 10% on my first AAS (see 'what was my blue pill?' post) and had no problem with it. Most likely due to the fact that my upper chest and inner peaks were rocked, lifting my whole chest up, and making the fat and/or breast tissue resemble muscle, which actually looked better then. I have done so much research on the subject because it has plagued me since 7th grade, i even joined the military to get rid of it, then when that didnt work I started lifting weights, then i ignorantly passed down insured surgery 10 years ago because I thought if kept lifting and dieting it would go away, but it wont (thats right i got it bad enough that it was covered, at least when i had insurance). Its also possible that you gain extra fat in that area of the body, or just subdermally in general. If so you may be lucky and where you think you have gynecomastia, thats just an area you get fatter than others, you can have mesotherapy done (but it costs the same as lipo anyway, and might not fix anything). For a lot of guys it is a combination of fat and breast glandular tissue, have you been low enough in your bf to see abs and still have bitch tits? some guys i have worked out with are rocking the first 6 abs at 15%, and it takes me at least 10% to get four and a half to pop out (if you havent seen em ever, there are more than 6 in a six pack, unlike beer). Its because the distribution of fat differs in everyone, that sucks, but so does paying taxes and learning that sex stops with marriage. Think about the female body builder sans implants, even with real female breasts a complete lack of fat can make them look like they have almost no breasts.

Having this problem can be the most disheartening thing in lifting, because you can peak out every other part of your body except the most noticable with your shirt off. But don't worry because the chicks look at your arms when your shirts on, and by the time they notice you got tittites, they wont care! :D To keep it at an all time minimum without surgery try to keep a low bf and only train your upper chest when working chest.i think the best chest workouts to help this is ofcourse any incline, especially inline dbell (bring light weight up, till your comfortable, above your face and concentrate on flexing the muscles below your chin at the apex instead of pushing up the weight for.. well the weight), and instead of doing cable cossovers from the high setting use the low ones so that your hands come together in front of your face, additionally on the fly machine (the kind you sit reverse on to work rear delts) you want to lower the seat all the way and place your hands up as high as possible on the handles.

When the problems arise on the beach, wear a wife beater, they show off the muscles you work on and help sculpt your breast, while not making you seem out of place... just put a real shirt on in public meatheads, no one wants to see that shit in a bar! i have dealt with this for a long time, and I would guarantee that its the only reason I keep working out....at least in the beggining.... and the only reason i keep stopping, you want proof, look at my pics in fattest guy ever contest.... and keep watching till i post new ones :cool: .

Bottom line... if that shit doesnt clear up in a couple weeks on Nolva, you probably arent going to be a happy dude. go here if its real bad http://www.gynecomastia.org/cgi-bin/gyne_yabb/YaBB.cgi

[paulwigan]

True enough bout the gyno as i got it mild long before any aas usage, however can anyone tell me why twice I have used stanozol, two different brands and got gyno pain and increased tissue deposits, also nipples started leaking noticably. any one encountered this, tried nolvadex but no effect, discontinued both times after stopping usage, have used dinabol and sus with no problems though. used about 30-50 mg per day of stan, any one encountered this before as it sure as hell confused me.

[jesse1303]

every time I ever used gear and had nipple pain or sensitivity i started using nolvadex and it went away... Also there are a couple over the counter brands, but they cost just as much. i never had discharge, but it can occur when the nipple gets stimulated consistently, as in if you played with your nipple every day you can cause discharge, or increased sensitivity can cause discharge as the nipple feels stimulated more often. I use stan and paper winny as my fav. and have never had any problems there, and the only time I ever experienced any increased sensitivity was with test prop; however the old over the counter prohormones would get me a lot, the old andro 6, the old animal stak pro hormone, and most recently some methyl masterdrol that I bought at a nearby supp store (it came out in the wake of the now prohibited pro hormone supps and I took it at the end of a 5 week winny shift, my nipples got really sensitive then). So are you just taking the stan by itself or are you also taking some other supps with it? I am 99.9% sure in my case it was the prohormone I took, but all the over the counter stuff seems to fade into the background when a problem starts to arise and the illegals are what comes to mind as the culprit.

[paulwigan]

jus stan on its own and it was the genuine genepharm. The nipple was really painfull and could feel a build up. started low on about 20 mg per day and worked up to about 50mg per day. leakage was a clear fluid, nolvadex made no difference at all, tried it before with anbother brand and got the same problem. dont seem to get it of the things you would expect problems with. I was hardening up and getting more vascular with some big strength gains but jsut very painful and leaking nipples

[jesse1303]

if one of the mods or pros dont respond, try sending them a message, but I would 99.999999% guarantee that your body is aromatizing extra testosterone, and its in the initial stages of anabolism, you better back off your winny dose or at least add in some anti arom, maybe the one your using is a knock off. If you dont have any and cant wait for some real stuff, i heard rebound xt works well.

[zozom]

Letrozole+nolva= reduction of gyno.


http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199826


If u make ur own research about letrozole on elitefitness forum u will see that a lot of people agree about Letrozole+nolva stack.