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gscott
02-01-2006, 09:12 PM
I just started my cycle after being off for 14 wks. and I have always injected into my shoulders(alternating every injection). I injected Fri. and on Tues. my shoulder is swollen and very painful hard to lift arm over head. This has never happened and I have injected my self numerous times with no problem even inject my brother and he has never had a problem.Could it be an oil absess? I'm on BD Enanthate. Anyone ever have this?

mickeymbbc
02-01-2006, 09:18 PM
What size pin did you use?
did you inject slowly?
how much did you inject?
was everything sterile?
thats uncommon for test enath??



-mick

gscott
02-01-2006, 09:46 PM
1" 22g,
I might have pushed too fast,
1cc,
Yes.

mickeymbbc
02-01-2006, 09:52 PM
1" 22g,
I might have pushed too fast,
1cc,
Yes.


Yes you probably pushed in to fast, plus that is a big pin for the shoulder, i use 25g 5/8 pin. Its virtually painless. heat it up also, thats helps alot with the pain and the injecting.


-mick

gscott
02-01-2006, 10:01 PM
Thanks Bro, I injected my brother right after me and he had no problems, but I know I pushed in slowly and he had 2cc. You mean heat up my shoulder with like a heating pad? It can't be an absess right that is from frequent injects in the same spot time after time right?

mickeymbbc
02-01-2006, 10:04 PM
Thanks Bro, I injected my brother right after me and he had no problems, but I know I pushed in slowly and he had 2cc. You mean heat up my shoulder with like a heating pad? It can't be an absess right that is from frequent injects in the same spot time after time right?

NO, HEAT UP THE GEAR?


-MICK

gscott
02-01-2006, 10:09 PM
Oh, put the vial in warm water? (Sorry it is early in the morning for me). That thins out the enanth right? How long do you think my shoulder might be sore? Thank You for your quick responses Bro I appreciate it.

mickeymbbc
02-01-2006, 10:15 PM
Oh, put the vial in warm water? (Sorry it is early in the morning for me). That thins out the enanth right? How long do you think my shoulder might be sore? Thank You for your quick responses Bro I appreciate it.


Yea, heat up some water, then just before it starts boiling take it off the burner, and put your bottle in for a couple min. As far as your shoulder is concerned, it will only hurt for a day or two, depending on the individual.



-mick

mrthnhmn
02-02-2006, 12:37 AM
If the injected area skin is discolored, giving it a more redish appearance & it feels hot then yes an infection is trying to take hold. I recommend antibotics.

But if u bruised the muscle because u injected to fast then avoid the area for a couple weeks, let it heal.

JILANI
02-02-2006, 01:17 AM
You should also try massaging the site after injecting as is done with Syntherol or maybe you could try injecting it into the glutes..that works better for me.

gscott
02-02-2006, 01:25 AM
Yeah, my shoulder is not discolored and is no warmer then the rest of my body just really swollen(wish it looked like this normally haha). I did start taking an antibiotic this morning just in case. Yeah I think I'm going into the glut from now on. I am starting to get sharp pains going up to the side of my neck with certain movements in my shoulder. I also don't think it helped when I did a heavy shoulder day the day after the injection.

mickeymbbc
02-02-2006, 01:39 AM
Yeah, my shoulder is not discolored and is no warmer then the rest of my body just really swollen(wish it looked like this normally haha). I did start taking an antibiotic this morning just in case. Yeah I think I'm going into the glut from now on. I am starting to get sharp pains going up to the side of my neck with certain movements in my shoulder. I also don't think it helped when I did a heavy shoulder day the day after the injection.


You will live brutha :D



-mick

khaynes
02-02-2006, 03:00 AM
I am also taking BD enanthate and just injected my shoulder yesterday and it hurt pretty bad. I think it may be from scar tissue? I go right shoulder, left shoulder, left thigh, right thigh. I use 23g 1inch. And also, the last 2 injections, after pulling out the needle, some of the gear ran out of my shoulder? Anyone know why this happned?

zozom
02-02-2006, 03:08 AM
do you aspirate before to inject?
I m doing my first injections since 4weeks and it never happenned to me even with HCG subQ.
I m using 23g 1" to inject oil based in my quads. i still never did the delts.

mickeymbbc
02-02-2006, 08:00 AM
I am also taking BD enanthate and just injected my shoulder yesterday and it hurt pretty bad. I think it may be from scar tissue? I go right shoulder, left shoulder, left thigh, right thigh. I use 23g 1inch. And also, the last 2 injections, after pulling out the needle, some of the gear ran out of my shoulder? Anyone know why this happned?


THIS IS NOT YOUR THREAD BRUTHA, PLEASE START YOU OWN!




-MICK

dert570
02-02-2006, 09:53 PM
Use 1" 23 ga. to get it into the belly of the muscle in your shoulder, glute outside upper quarter of your cheek use 1 1/2" 23 ga. thigh hand length above knee top outside quad 1" 23 ga. This will give you 6 injection locations, alternate, this will allow time for spots to heel.

Jade_7674
02-03-2006, 12:36 AM
I have had the same problem, but i don't think my shoulders will ever be the same becasuse I used DenKall Test. Suspension in glutes,quads, thighs, and shoulders, and i was in a body cast for 3 weeks, don't know why. Needless to say, I discontinued it's use , but still having pain with the shoulder injects., so i only inject the other four sites, in stead of the six.. Also, try moving the injection sites that way you your not shooting into scare tissue.............

just put it under hot running water for a few seconds. That will make it easier to shoot. I also, rub the area outward with alot of pressure after inject., it keeps the soreness away a little better.. I am using T-400 & Deca 300.. Imagine what T-400 can normally do if those precautions were not taken..

I also use 23 G 1"needles with all site injects!!

Tyree33
02-03-2006, 10:49 AM
It sounds like you've only had a couple runs w/ gear (I could be wrong), but I primarily injected my glutes for my first dozen cycles until I started noticing a build up of scar tissue. Your ass has a lot more area to inject vs. a shoulder or other smaller muscle group. I would stick w/ that area for a while if u haven't already.