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maniron_1
01-31-2006, 01:26 AM
I'm contemplating 275mg andropen(super sustenon)/ 250mg deca a week for 10 weeks, followed by 20mg/day nolvadex PCT (possibly 10 weeks). Will this give me the not-too-smooth mass I'm pursuing, and how long do I stay on the PCT till next cycle? I'm ten days into a d-bol/winstrol 6 week cycle (got nolvadex for the PCT (20mg/day, 6 weeks) on hand.

jstforme
01-31-2006, 02:37 AM
never heard of the term "not too smooth", kinda funny. i dont know what your stats are so i really cant answer that truthfully but 275mg and 250mg is pretty weak if you ask me. why would you want to do only 275mg and of all things sustanon, if your going to do a small amount you should look into a longer ester testosterone. you only need 4 weeks worth of pct.

Alin
01-31-2006, 07:36 PM
I'm contemplating 275mg andropen(super sustenon)/ 250mg deca a week for 10 weeks, followed by 20mg/day nolvadex PCT (possibly 10 weeks). Will this give me the not-too-smooth mass I'm pursuing, and how long do I stay on the PCT till next cycle? I'm ten days into a d-bol/winstrol 6 week cycle (got nolvadex for the PCT (20mg/day, 6 weeks) on hand.


Those doses are fairly low. I would sugessy using the Andropen 3 times wk and bumping the Deca to at least 400mg wk. also add some Arimidex to control water retention/bloat. You should not need 10 wks of nolva for PCT, 3 WKS of Nolva and Clomid should be sufficient.

mickeymbbc
02-01-2006, 08:58 PM
I'm contemplating 275mg andropen(super sustenon)/ 250mg deca a week for 10 weeks, followed by 20mg/day nolvadex PCT (possibly 10 weeks). Will this give me the not-too-smooth mass I'm pursuing, and how long do I stay on the PCT till next cycle? I'm ten days into a d-bol/winstrol 6 week cycle (got nolvadex for the PCT (20mg/day, 6 weeks) on hand.

I think that you need to touch up a little more on the reading brutha, keep it simple:

wks 1 - 10 - 500mg test
wks 1 - 10 - 400mg deca
wks 7 - 12 - 50mg winny ED

wks 1 - 12 - 20mg nolvadex ED
wks 1 - 12 - .5mg arimidex ED

PCT
wk 13 - 40mg nolva ED
wk 14 - 30mg nolva ED
wk 15 - 20mg nolva ED


-mick

maniron_1
02-03-2006, 06:33 AM
So noted Mick, the stack sounds like it flows from blast-from-the-mass to slight cuttology, with a anti-estrogen balance throughout, then a solid PCT. And I will try in the future to keep it a little more simple, with a little help from my friends (including you dude!!!). After I run that cycle, I'll give you an update. Before-cycle/stack stats are 37 years of age, 5'8", 203lbs, BFP of around 13-14%. I'm a hardgainer and have managed to up my calorie intake to a little over 3000 over the course of two weak newbie cycles (experimental/stupid/non-assisted by way-cool, time-tested juicers). I've also tried to keep the diet 50-30-20 to the best of my knowledge. Requesting any and all tips, pointers, etc...

Thanks,

Maniron_1

mickeymbbc
02-03-2006, 06:41 AM
So noted Mick, the stack sounds like it flows from blast-from-the-mass to slight cuttology, with a anti-estrogen balance throughout, then a solid PCT. And I will try in the future to keep it a little more simple, with a little help from my friends (including you dude!!!). After I run that cycle, I'll give you an update. Before-cycle/stack stats are 37 years of age, 5'8", 203lbs, BFP of around 13-14%. I'm a hardgainer and have managed to up my calorie intake to a little over 3000 over the course of two weak newbie cycles (experimental/stupid/non-assisted by way-cool, time-tested juicers). I've also tried to keep the diet 50-30-20 to the best of my knowledge. Requesting any and all tips, pointers, etc...

Thanks,

Maniron_1


Sure, I do not mind giving tips about nutrition. When you get a chance lay out your whole diet from wakeing up, to going to bed. Try to get it as clear as possible with the times laid out, along you with your Calories, Protiens, Carbs, and fats labled.




-MICK