2nd Bulking Cycle

[sowrdiezel]

hey whats up, im new to the forum. im setting up a 2nd bulking cycle before i start cutting up for the summer. i want to gain every goddamn pound i possibly can before i have to cut up so i need this to be a monstrous bulking cycle. i finsihed PCT for my first cycle in december and gained roughly 45 pounds. i lost 6 of those pounds since so i want to start soon. my first cycle was :

Week 1-12 :500mg Test Enth a week (QV Brand)
Week 1-10 :400mg Decca a week (iP Brand)
Week 1-6 :35mg Dbol a day

for my 2nd cycle i was thinking of something along the lines of :

Week 1-2 : 1500mg Test Enth a week (frontload)
Week 3-14 : 1000mg Test Enth a week
Week 1-14 : 600mg EQ a week
Week 1-6 : 50mg Dbol a day

anyone have any advice for me?

[arnold jr]

hey whats up, im new to the forum. im setting up a 2nd bulking cycle before i start cutting up for the summer. i want to gain every goddamn pound i possibly can before i have to cut up so i need this to be a monstrous bulking cycle. i finsihed PCT for my first cycle in december and gained roughly 45 pounds. i lost 6 of those pounds since so i want to start soon. my first cycle was :

Week 1-12 :500mg Test Enth a week (QV Brand)
Week 1-10 :400mg Decca a week (iP Brand)
Week 1-6 :35mg Dbol a day

for my 2nd cycle i was thinking of something along the lines of :

Week 1-2 : 1500mg Test Enth a week (frontload)
Week 3-14 : 1000mg Test Enth a week
Week 1-14 : 600mg EQ a week
Week 1-6 : 50mg Dbol a day

anyone have any advice for me?

Arnold jr's recommendations:

wk 1-6 dbol 50mg ed
wk 1-12 test-e 750mg wk
wk 1-12 deca 400mg wk
wk 7-12 winny 50mg ed
wk 13-16 prop 750 mg wk
wk 1-16 hcg 500iu e5d
wk 1-16 arimidex 1mg eod
wk 17-19 PCT


1. Drop the test down to 750mg, no need for such a big jump. There is no logical reason to make such a drastic jump. Your body has responded well to 500mg wk, and you might even consider this same dosage one more time, but bumping it up to 750mg would more then likely be fine. Just remember more is not always better

2. I don't like frontloading because I feel the whole objective is to keep things at a stable level throughout cycle. The added dbol will give you your jump start, so I don't see a need to frontload.

3. I'd go with deca instead of eq. You said you wanted to get as big as possible, well deca is more suitable for that. Just add in some a-dex or something along those lines

4. I would bump cycle to an even 16wks, switching to prop last 4 to ease into PCT

5. You might consider throwing in 6wks of winny towards the 2nd half. This will harden you up and help solidify some of your gains.

[sowrdiezel]

looks good to me, thanks alot for the advice i appreciate it. also, do you think i should use anadrol instead of dbol or no? after this bulker i will be doing a monster cutting cycle, i already have one planned out with some Tren, Test Prop, Winny, Clen, and T3

[sowrdiezel]

500 or 5000 iu of HCG every 5 days?

[arnold jr]

500 or 5000 iu of HCG every 5 days?
500iu e5d, some guys can get by with less at around 300iu e5d

[Alin]

hey whats up, im new to the forum. im setting up a 2nd bulking cycle before i start cutting up for the summer. i want to gain every goddamn pound i possibly can before i have to cut up so i need this to be a monstrous bulking cycle. i finsihed PCT for my first cycle in december and gained roughly 45 pounds. i lost 6 of those pounds since so i want to start soon. my first cycle was :

Week 1-12 :500mg Test Enth a week (QV Brand)
Week 1-10 :400mg Decca a week (iP Brand)
Week 1-6 :35mg Dbol a day

for my 2nd cycle i was thinking of something along the lines of :

Week 1-2 : 1500mg Test Enth a week (frontload)
Week 3-14 : 1000mg Test Enth a week
Week 1-14 : 600mg EQ a week
Week 1-6 : 50mg Dbol a day

anyone have any advice for me?


Run some Arimidex with your cycle.

[Tyree33]

Solid advice Arnold Jr. Regarding your question about dbol vs drol that's comes down to personal prefernce. Have u used either of them before? Your gonna get roughly the same results from either, but probably a slightly better increase in strength/size w/ the drol. I prefer using dbol over drol just because of the affect that drol has on my state of mind; it makes me a bit edgy but the pumps are insane. That's just me though, everyone is different. Like alin said run some a-dex during this run.

[mickeymbbc]

hey whats up, im new to the forum. im setting up a 2nd bulking cycle before i start cutting up for the summer. i want to gain every goddamn pound i possibly can before i have to cut up so i need this to be a monstrous bulking cycle. i finsihed PCT for my first cycle in december and gained roughly 45 pounds. i lost 6 of those pounds since so i want to start soon. my first cycle was :

Week 1-12 :500mg Test Enth a week (QV Brand)
Week 1-10 :400mg Decca a week (iP Brand)
Week 1-6 :35mg Dbol a day

for my 2nd cycle i was thinking of something along the lines of :

Week 1-2 : 1500mg Test Enth a week (frontload)
Week 3-14 : 1000mg Test Enth a week
Week 1-14 : 600mg EQ a week
Week 1-6 : 50mg Dbol a day

anyone have any advice for me?

Don't fix what isn;t broken brutha, no need to jump so high on your second cycle to get results. BAD IDEA!! Keep it simple: PLUS THERE IS NO NEED TO FRONT LOAD, THATS WHY YOUR DBALL IS THERE!!!

WK 1-10 500mg Test Enan
WK 1-10 400mg EQ (Equipose?)
WK 1-4 DBALL 50MG ED

WK 1-12 10mg Nolva ED

WK 13 40mg Nolva Ed and/or 150mg Clomid ED
WK 14 30mg Nolva Ed and/or 100mg Clomid ED
WK 15 20mg Nolva Ed and/or 50mg Clomid ED



-MICK

[mickeymbbc]

Arnold jr's recommendations:

wk 1-6 dbol 50mg ed
wk 1-12 test-e 750mg wk
wk 1-12 deca 400mg wk
wk 7-12 winny 50mg ed
wk 13-16 prop 750 mg wk
wk 1-16 hcg 500iu e5d
wk 1-16 arimidex 1mg eod
wk 17-19 PCT


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too much for a second cycle brutha!@#



-mick

[sowrdiezel]

yea it might be much but thats the whole point aha i want to gain every last possible pound before I have to start cutting for the summer even if it means stretching the limits.

[jstforme]

yea it might be much but thats the whole point aha i want to gain every last possible pound before I have to start cutting for the summer even if it means stretching the limits.

IMO your a little late if your trying to do a bulker then a cutting cycle for summer, lets say you get gear mid feb. by the time you start, finish, and do 3 week pct it will be june....then your going to try and cut down? bad timing if you ask me, ive always tried to keep my bulkers during winter months.

[mickeymbbc]

yea it might be much but thats the whole point aha i want to gain every last possible pound before I have to start cutting for the summer even if it means stretching the limits.


Runnning more gear doesn't mean more gains brutha, you food does. I THINK THAT YOU HAVE THIS ALL BACKWARDS??? YOU CAN RUN ALL THE GEAR THAT YOU WISH,BUT IF YOU NUTITION ISN'T THERE YOU DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING.




-MICK

[church]

I had excellent results my second cycle with 500mg test and 400mg EQ per week. I used dbol the first 4 weeks, kept nolva and HCG on hand (didn't need anything until the 7th week). Good luck.

[sowrdiezel]

hey, timing is fine in my opinion. i mean it could have been better earlier but im not bothered by it. i did my first bulking cycle throughout the winter. weather stays hot up until early october where im from. also mick, i am very knowledgable about steroids and the factors about it. My last cycle I gained 45 pounds of pretty lean muscle. My diet was around 5000-6000 calories a day, with just over 350g protein. I am a moderator on a bodybuilding forum also, i knot means absolute shyt but what I am trying to tell you is i am very experience at weight lifting. I just wanted some professional advice about the ultimate bulking cycle. Thanks alot for the advice though, every little bit is appreciated.

[jstforme]

congradulations on that 45 lbs of lean muscle gained, never heard of such a thing

[mickeymbbc]

hey, timing is fine in my opinion. i mean it could have been better earlier but im not bothered by it. i did my first bulking cycle throughout the winter. weather stays hot up until early october where im from. also mick, i am very knowledgable about steroids and the factors about it. My last cycle I gained 45 pounds of pretty lean muscle. My diet was around 5000-6000 calories a day, with just over 350g protein. I am a moderator on a bodybuilding forum also, i knot means absolute shyt but what I am trying to tell you is i am very experience at weight lifting. I just wanted some professional advice about the ultimate bulking cycle. Thanks alot for the advice though, every little bit is appreciated.


Well if you are knowledgable about gear, then again, you would know that its all your food not the gear. No offence, but I do not care about anyone being a MOD or what ever(not even me) That does not make you anyone smarter at all, that just means that you know somebody most the time. MY EXP COMES FROM YEARS OF COMPETEING, IN BOTH AMATURE AND PROFESSIONAL MEETS. I AM HERE TO HELP ALIN OUT BECAUSE HE ASKED ME, NOT TO TALK ABOUT MYSELF. But the first thing that comes to my mind when I here someone say that taking more gear makes them bigger, it tells me that they need to educate themselfs more(no offence) My exp comes from competeing with the most intence professional in the world, not from the internet. SO IF YOU DID GAIN 45LBS LAST CYCLE(WHICH I NEVER EVEN HEARD OF BEFORE) I CAN GARANTEE THATS IT'S MOSTLY WATER, NOT MUSCLE. AND FURTHER MORE, IF YOU NEW AS MUCH AS YOU SAY YOU DO, THEN WHY WOULD YOU BE HERE ASKING US FOR OPPINIONS?? Anyway, I wish you well with your cycle, good luck!


-mick

-mick

[Tyree33]

Right on Mick! :D