For those that didn't get to see.... BJ Penn vs Jens Pulver

[kaelalden]

This was an awesome fight.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=429438190870853793&q=bj+penn+pulver&total=41&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

[kaelalden]

TUF5 Finale Nathan Diaz vs Manvel Gamburyan

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5423951817331341317&q=Nathan+Diaz&total=59&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7

[kaelalden]

This one had a twist ending.

TUF5 Rob Emerson Vs. Gray Maynard

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5423951817331341317&q=Nathan+Diaz&total=59&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7

If you didn't understand, One tapped but the other was knocked out and it was ruled a NO CONTEST even though Gray was still moving slowly but was ruled by the judge that he was out even though he eyes were open. It was crazy when Gray heard the judges decision. He flipped out.

[lola26]

all the fights last night sucked, it was amature hour! pulver is a washed up punk, i dont know why he would even fight penn!

[SwoleTexasKid]

all the fights last night sucked, it was amature hour! pulver is a washed up punk, i dont know why he would even fight penn!

Agreed. Diaz is the worst fighter I have ever seen, his arms are so lanky that he cant even punch someone with power behind it and his submissions suck too. I cant believe he got the contract.

Grey Maynard was the best fighter on the show...period. He got robbed last night, he slammed Emerson so hard that Emerson tapped, and Maynard never lost conciousness. He was shaken from the neck pound impact, but he deserved that win. No contest my ass....

Manvel is about as exciting to watch as paint drying on a wall. Hes a short fucker who just wraps up his opponents with grapples so they cant do anything, but never really inflicts any damage. Hes a decision junkie.

BJ Penn is past his prime at 28 , believe it or not. If you look at pics of him from his glory days he had much more mass and definition to his torso back then. Both him and Pulver are both out of shape.

I am looking forward to UFC stacked. My boy Ortiz taking on Rashad Evans, that ought to be a good one...Plus two belts on the line, Silva and Muscle Shark (whatever his name is)

I might actually spend money to see that one.

[No-Go]

whens Tito fighting rashad?

[IronBod]

Agreed. Diaz is the worst fighter I have ever seen, his arms are so lanky that he cant even punch someone with power behind it and his submissions suck too. I cant believe he got the contract.

Grey Maynard was the best fighter on the show...period. He got robbed last night, he slammed Emerson so hard that Emerson tapped, and Maynard never lost conciousness. He was shaken from the neck pound impact, but he deserved that win. No contest my ass....

Manvel is about as exciting to watch as paint drying on a wall. Hes a short fucker who just wraps up his opponents with grapples so they cant do anything, but never really inflicts any damage. Hes a decision junkie.

BJ Penn is past his prime at 28 , believe it or not. If you look at pics of him from his glory days he had much more mass and definition to his torso back then. Both him and Pulver are both out of shape.

I am looking forward to UFC stacked. My boy Ortiz taking on Rashad Evans, that ought to be a good one...Plus two belts on the line, Silva and Muscle Shark (whatever his name is)

I might actually spend money to see that one.

Maynard was knocked out. 30 seconds after the fact, he fell face
first in to dudes crotch and had to be pulled back. So if he was in
his right mind, then he is gay! :eek: LOL

[IronBod]

whens Tito fighting rashad?

July 7th on pay per veiw.

[blackson]

Rashad is gonna kill tito. I'll bet you 10mls of sust swoll :P

[Trbowrx71]

Agreed. Diaz is the worst fighter I have ever seen, his arms are so lanky that he cant even punch someone with power behind it and his submissions suck too. I cant believe he got the contract.

Grey Maynard was the best fighter on the show...period. He got robbed last night, he slammed Emerson so hard that Emerson tapped, and Maynard never lost conciousness. He was shaken from the neck pound impact, but he deserved that win. No contest my ass....

Manvel is about as exciting to watch as paint drying on a wall. Hes a short fucker who just wraps up his opponents with grapples so they cant do anything, but never really inflicts any damage. Hes a decision junkie.

BJ Penn is past his prime at 28 , believe it or not. If you look at pics of him from his glory days he had much more mass and definition to his torso back then. Both him and Pulver are both out of shape.

I am looking forward to UFC stacked. My boy Ortiz taking on Rashad Evans, that ought to be a good one...Plus two belts on the line, Silva and Muscle Shark (whatever his name is)

I might actually spend money to see that one.

Lord ya'll wouldn't last five minutes on a MMA board lol.

Diaz, actually both diaz brothers have one of the best submission games in there weight classes and heavily respected for it. I agree with his standup though, he is basically a worse version of nick diaz.

NC is beating debated very heavily on many MMA forums right now, bottem line is after he was pulled off of emerson, he couldn't even stand up, he kept falling over, he clearly went out, was woken up when moved but still couldnt get his barrings, hence the falling over repeatdly.

Manny is good at the LnP wins it would seem, but the same was said of rashad evans and now he has Ko'd two people, and a lot think he will beat tito, that im not totally sold on.


Most people at this point are done with Ortiz, and really he is better suited to WWE then MMA, he has done nothing impressive in the last 5 years, other then beating a broke down ken, and a worn out belfort, and controversal split to forrest, and getting ko'd twice by chuck, he has done nothing.

Now with the LHW division becoming immensly stacked, it is unlikely he will ever be in title contention again, or even stay as a top 10 fighter, which most done think he should be now.

His contract does not have many fights left, i relly doubt he will be back.

[SwoleTexasKid]

Rashad is gonna kill tito. I'll bet you 10mls of sust swoll :P

Its gonna be close, that is for sure. Its going to be a great match because they are both wrestlers by nature but both also posses superior knockout capability as well, especially Rashad, who has kicked out his last two opponents right on the dome!

Tito has had better days and if he loses this one, who knows how far down the ladder he will fall...

[IronBod]

Hey Trxbowrx71,

Have you seen the UFC 75 line up?
I all ways wanted to see Matt Hamill vs Bisping. If they had fought on the
show, i think Matt would have beat him.
Now that Tito has been training him, i think Bisping has got this one.
Maybe Matt wised up and found a real trainer to teach him how to strike.
Hell the kid knew how to wrestle already.

[SwoleTexasKid]

That was highway robbery on Maynard. He was not out cold! He was severly stunned and seeing birdies, but that is besides the point, because Emerson had already tapped before this point. The ref would not have stopped a match because someone is dazed, unless they were mounted and getting pounded. The match would have been stopped if someone was motionless with eyes closed, aka "out cold"

Diaz has good submissions, I will give him this, but who wants to see a fucking triangle for the 100th time when you got a Guy like Maynard who beats the everloving shit out of his opponents and slams them like Rampage Jackson. That is what people come to see. That is what sells out PPV's. I wouldve given him a contract regardless If I was Dana, I mean shit, he gave that worthless turd Ed Herman a contract and he hasnt shown us a thing yet...

Why even give Wang another shot? He must have sucked some Wang behind the scenes. I mean, really, the guy was horrible from the start, I think he was second only to Weems in lack of skill...

[Trbowrx71]

That was highway robbery on Maynard. He was not out cold! He was severly stunned and seeing birdies, but that is besides the point, because Emerson had already tapped before this point. The ref would not have stopped a match because someone is dazed, unless they were mounted and getting pounded. The match would have been stopped if someone was motionless with eyes closed, aka "out cold"

Diaz has good submissions, I will give him this, but who wants to see a fucking triangle for the 100th time when you got a Guy like Maynard who beats the everloving shit out of his opponents and slams them like Rampage Jackson. That is what people come to see. That is what sells out PPV's. I wouldve given him a contract regardless If I was Dana, I mean shit, he gave that worthless turd Ed Herman a contract and he hasnt shown us a thing yet...

Why even give Wang another shot? He must have sucked some Wang behind the scenes. I mean, really, the guy was horrible from the start, I think he was second only to Weems in lack of skill...

Well, the tap came that is true, maynard was out instantly, then a few sec later emerson tapped, so really maynard was out before the tap, if emerson would not have been hurt, and could have rolled him over got on top and started punching he would have won.

The guy couldnt stand, or even sit, without falling down, he was in no position to continue, therfore deemed a NC

[Trbowrx71]

Hey Trxbowrx71,

Have you seen the UFC 75 line up?
I all ways wanted to see Matt Hamill vs Bisping. If they had fought on the
show, i think Matt would have beat him.
Now that Tito has been training him, i think Bisping has got this one.
Maybe Matt wised up and found a real trainer to teach him how to strike.
Hell the kid knew how to wrestle already.


Ya i have.

I don't personally see hamill winning unless its a LnP kinda win.

Matt's striking is horrible, its not even funny, i think i know some 16 year olds with better striking.

He better wise up, he wont make it far on the ufc just relying on laying on top of people once he takes them down.

[IronBod]

That was highway robbery on Maynard. He was not out cold! He was severly stunned and seeing birdies, but that is besides the point, because Emerson had already tapped before this point. The ref would not have stopped a match because someone is dazed, unless they were mounted and getting pounded. The match would have been stopped if someone was motionless with eyes closed, aka "out cold"

Diaz has good submissions, I will give him this, but who wants to see a fucking triangle for the 100th time when you got a Guy like Maynard who beats the everloving shit out of his opponents and slams them like Rampage Jackson. That is what people come to see. That is what sells out PPV's. I wouldve given him a contract regardless If I was Dana, I mean shit, he gave that worthless turd Ed Herman a contract and he hasnt shown us a thing yet...

Why even give Wang another shot? He must have sucked some Wang behind the scenes. I mean, really, the guy was horrible from the start, I think he was second only to Weems in lack of skill...

You make some good points. Id rather see a stand up match. Ed Herman
that dude sucks, but to hear him talk you would think he could kick Fedors
ass. (what a joke) Hes nothing more than a sparring partner.

[SwoleTexasKid]

Ya i have.

I don't personally see hamill winning unless its a LnP kinda win.

Matt's striking is horrible, its not even funny, i think i know some 16 year olds with better striking.

He better wise up, he wont make it far on the ufc just relying on laying on top of people once he takes them down.

Bro, you are not kidding. I remember last time I saw Hamill, he kept his hands down at his side for the stand up part. Every now and then he would kinda fish with one of them, similar to Liddell.

His wrestling is top notch though. The kid has talent, he just needs a good boxing coach. Its hard being deaf, ynow, you cant hear your own corners advice, I like the guy for having balls and stepping up , but he is too cocky and doesnt listen to people.

Hahah no pun intended.:D

[BuffMedic]

I wasn't impressed with any of these fights.

[SwoleTexasKid]

Well, the tap came that is true, maynard was out instantly, then a few sec later emerson tapped, so really maynard was out before the tap, if emerson would not have been hurt, and could have rolled him over got on top and started punching he would have won.

The guy couldnt stand, or even sit, without falling down, he was in no position to continue, therfore deemed a NC

You are not really going to tell me that you found that justified when Maynard dominated Emerson from the start. For some reason, Dana had a woody for Emerson and thought he had mad skill. He talked about it on the season, brough t him back only to lose again, then gave him another chance and he lost on the finale. That isnt the first time that has happened either, White did the same thing with Jessie on the 3rd show, he came back and got whooped by Hamill on the finale.

I wonder if he had anything to do with that ruling.:mad:

[IronBod]

You are not really going to tell me that you found that justified when Maynard dominated Emerson from the start. For some reason, Dana had a woody for Emerson and thought he had mad skill. He talked about it on the season, brough t him back only to lose again, then gave him another chance and he lost on the finale. That isnt the first time that has happened either, White did the same thing with Jessie on the 3rd show, he came back and got whooped by Hamill on the finale.

I wonder if he had anything to do with that ruling.:mad:

Im thinking after the Matt Hughs vs Carlo (black cat w-bozo hair) they
decided to call it a NC when both fighters are out or unable to continue.
No doubt about Maynard getting the better of Emerson until that point.
Its always sucks when a fight ends on a note like that.

[kaelalden]

You all are crazy if you think BJ is out of his prime. He even said his weakness is his cardio.

Roger "El Matador" Huerta is an action fighter. None of his fights have sucked. Yeah, alot were bad match ups, but that dude will throw some hands.

I really wanted Joe Lauzon and Gray Maynard in the finale because they were my pick to go to it and I was hoping they would fight because that would of been a good fight.

[Trbowrx71]

You are not really going to tell me that you found that justified when Maynard dominated Emerson from the start. For some reason, Dana had a woody for Emerson and thought he had mad skill. He talked about it on the season, brough t him back only to lose again, then gave him another chance and he lost on the finale. That isnt the first time that has happened either, White did the same thing with Jessie on the 3rd show, he came back and got whooped by Hamill on the finale.

I wonder if he had anything to do with that ruling.:mad:

I thought really a nc was fair to both fighters.

The NC is not decided on who is winning the fight thus far, it was decided based on the fact that NEITHER fighter could continue, had maynard not knocked himself out, he would have won.

Had emerson not tapped, he easily would have turned him over and mount and punch and they would have stopped it and emerson would have won.

When neither fighter can continue, they rule it a NC, hell if emerson wouldnt have tapped and just laid there, he would have won, the tap is what made it a NC, no tap and he would have been given the win.

[kaelalden]

Does anyone know if or when Fedor is coming to UFC?

[Trbowrx71]

Does anyone know if or when Fedor is coming to UFC?

There are rumors of him coming, and the ufc recently said the think its inevitable that he will come.

As far as dates or anything, there are none as of yet.