Proviron dose and how long?

[jamyers]

I will be using TEST E 500mg/week for 10 weeks and 30mg/ED for 4 weeks how should I use the proviron during my cycle? And also I do have nolva on hand. Can I use or should I use the nolva with my stack cycle? My PCT will be one week after last poke for 3 weeks

[jstforme]

no need for nolvadex during cycle. i think 50mg daliy will suffice. your pct needs to start somewhere along the lines of 2-3 weeks after last shot.

[mickeymbbc]

I will be using TEST E 500mg/week for 10 weeks and 30mg/ED for 4 weeks how should I use the proviron during my cycle? And also I do have nolva on hand. Can I use or should I use the nolva with my stack cycle? My PCT will be one week after last poke for 3 weeks


Lay out your entire cycle brutha, so we can help. Along with some stats.



-mick

[lancelot]

Why would you need proviron on a Test cycle?

no need for nolva on cycle unless gyno symptoms appear. save the nolva for PCT. dex could be used on cycle for bloat and gyno-prevention though.

[jstforme]

Why would you need proviron on a Test cycle?

Testosterone in the body at normal physiological levels is mostly inactive. As much as 97 or 98 percent of testosterone in that amount is bound to sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) and albumin, two proteins. In such a form testosterone is mostly inactive. But as with the aromatase enzyme, DHT has a higher affinity for these proteins than testosterone does, so when administered simultaneously the mesterolone will attach to the SHBG and albumin, leaving larger amounts of free testosterone to mediate anabolic activities such as protein synthesis
Administering proviron with testosterone or another aromatizable compound, it prevents estrogen build-up because it binds to the aromatase enzyme very strongly, thereby preventing these steroids from interacting with it and forming estrogen. So Mesterolone(proviron) use has the extreme benefit of reducing estrogenic side-effects and water retention noted with other steroids, and as such still help to provide mostly lean gains. Its also been suggested that it may actually downgrade the actual estrogen receptor making it doubly effective at reducing circulating estrogen levels.

[lancelot]

Testosterone in the body at normal physiological levels is mostly inactive. As much as 97 or 98 percent of testosterone in that amount is bound to sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) and albumin, two proteins. In such a form testosterone is mostly inactive. But as with the aromatase enzyme, DHT has a higher affinity for these proteins than testosterone does, so when administered simultaneously the mesterolone will attach to the SHBG and albumin, leaving larger amounts of free testosterone to mediate anabolic activities such as protein synthesis
Administering proviron with testosterone or another aromatizable compound, it prevents estrogen build-up because it binds to the aromatase enzyme very strongly, thereby preventing these steroids from interacting with it and forming estrogen. So Mesterolone(proviron) use has the extreme benefit of reducing estrogenic side-effects and water retention noted with other steroids, and as such still help to provide mostly lean gains. Its also been suggested that it may actually downgrade the actual estrogen receptor making it doubly effective at reducing circulating estrogen levels.

I prefer to use an AI on cycle when using highly aromatizing AAS as i feel it's more effective at eliminating estrogen and w/o the problems of hairloss. For me, proviron is best used to help with loss of libido on cycle as it does little for any gains IMHO.

[jstforme]

I prefer to use an AI on cycle when using highly aromatizing AAS as i feel it's more effective at eliminating estrogen and w/o the problems of hairloss. For me, proviron is best used to help with loss of libido on cycle as it does little for any gains IMHO.

i think arimidex is better choice comparing the two for most aromitizing steroids EXCEPT for testosterone which proviron clearly has more benifits

[Alin]

I will be using TEST E 500mg/week for 10 weeks and 30mg/ED for 4 weeks how should I use the proviron during my cycle? And also I do have nolva on hand. Can I use or should I use the nolva with my stack cycle? My PCT will be one week after last poke for 3 weeks


run the proviron daily with your cycle.

[Nitrateman]

I am a firm believer in the value of Proviron; it is one of my fav aas. On your test e cycle, if I were you I would not start to use it until the test kicks in, which would be after the 2 week mark. Just my opinion based on the slow ester (sp?)

Nitrateman

[joelittle]

hi there,
Would there be any benifet to useing both on a cycle
ie:arimidex and Proviron?
one to add the test and the other to block the sides?
newb Q i know but hey we all gotta learn :)
best
joe

[jstforme]

joe, no benifit there. proviron is an antiestrogen.

[Beetlejuice]

Proviron is clearly the best choice while using test because it is considered a non aromatising aas and just FYI it works very well in a cutting cycle as a muscle hardening agent, as well as to enhance the effects of other gear, by downgrading estrogen receptors. It is classified as a steroid unlike nolva or clomid. 50 mg a day should suffice though some people take 100 mg a day. The evidence suggests the benefits at 100 mg a day isnt very much better than 50 mg a day. I would run 50 mg a day the entire cycle of test, because it is a preventative solution waiting for the gear to kick in would defeat its purpose. You should start the proviron before estrogen levels have a chance to climb at all.

[joelittle]

Proviron is clearly the best choice while using test because it is considered a non aromatising aas and just FYI it works very well in a cutting cycle as a muscle hardening agent, as well as to enhance the effects of other gear, by downgrading estrogen receptors. It is classified as a steroid unlike nolva or clomid. 50 mg a day should suffice though some people take 100 mg a day. The evidence suggests the benefits at 100 mg a day isnt very much better than 50 mg a day. I would run 50 mg a day the entire cycle of test, because it is a preventative solution waiting for the gear to kick in would defeat its purpose. You should start the proviron before estrogen levels have a chance to climb at all.

Will the proviron be able to fully combat the effects of estrogen ?
I also read the artical that with test E this stuff is a must as they work together.
Thats why i asked my prevous question.
If not i also have fermara which is also very good.
I suppose the big question is ,maybe there not needed together but would it do any harm in the cycle to use fermara and proviron just to be safe?
best
joe

[Beetlejuice]

It might harm our pocket book :). I would reccomend just the proviron. Don't use what you don't need. You are already putting eneough in your system. You don't want to over medicate yourself. Proviron will do just fine for fight estrogen, just start it when the cycle starts, and run all the way to cycles end. You will be fine.


Will the proviron be able to fully combat the effects of estrogen ?
I also read the artical that with test E this stuff is a must as they work together.
Thats why i asked my prevous question.
If not i also have fermara which is also very good.
I suppose the big question is ,maybe there not needed together but would it do any harm in the cycle to use fermara and proviron just to be safe?
best
joe

[joelittle]

ok thanks for the help
best
joe