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mkchll
06-21-2007, 02:50 PM
I just received the 10mg Winny tabs by Balkan. I tasted one and it has no taste what so ever. Is this normal?:confused: Does Stanzanol have no taste? I've never done the tabs just the Zambons about five years ago. Also how come Balkan doesn't have these tabs on their site under products?

SwoleTexasKid
06-21-2007, 03:03 PM
Hey bro a Little Secret....Winny tabs are not even in the same ball park as Injectable Zambons. :(

I tried a Strombafort tab and it really didnt do much. I dont trust any orals except Dbol by Body Research.

mkchll
06-21-2007, 07:20 PM
Does anyone know if Winstrol has no taste?

bigpumpin37
06-21-2007, 07:28 PM
not sure but if it came from alin you have nothin to worry about bro

mkchll
06-21-2007, 10:50 PM
Thanks Bro, thats what I figured...

I think Winny tabs are good to jump start a cycle. 12 Weeks Test/Deca, Winny Tabs for the first 6 Wks. and Proviron the last 6 Wks. You'd make some good strength gains right from the start.

CountVascular
06-22-2007, 06:26 AM
Hey bro a Little Secret....Winny tabs are not even in the same ball park as Injectable Zambons. :(

I tried a Strombafort tab and it really didnt do much. I dont trust any orals except Dbol by Body Research.

YET IF YOU DO THE RESEARCH HERE IT SAYS THE WINNY ORAL IS MORE POWERFULL THAN DEPOT.......ANAVAR IS GREAT ORAL IDEAL LIKE AND EASY SSIDES, I ALSE READ HERE A GLASS OF FRESH GRAPEFRUIT JUICE!!!!!!!! HELPS ABSORB THE VAR.....AND wINNY

Fly

CountVascular
06-22-2007, 06:28 AM
Does anyone know if Winstrol has no taste?

I use paper from Redi, and cant say I recall any taste..will slug one for you now in the same of science (and as a senior member now!!!)

Wait two minutes

OK mine are Redicarts paper....Now I can taste the var, buT THE winny, nada . hope it helps !! AND WHAT ORAL LIVER PROTECTION ARE YOU USING"

mkchll
06-22-2007, 10:08 PM
Thanks!

I always had great results with the Zambons orally, and oral Stan is oral Stan. But everybody's diferent.

And the Grapefuit does work, it realeses a enzyme in your stomach to better absorb the drug. The name of the enzyme it realeses escapes me.

lola26
06-22-2007, 10:38 PM
Thanks Bro, thats what I figured...

I think Winny tabs are good to jump start a cycle. 12 Weeks Test/Deca, Winny Tabs for the first 6 Wks. and Proviron the last 6 Wks. You'd make some good strength gains right from the start.


what are your goals? we need to work on your cycle a bit!

JohnnyPro
06-23-2007, 01:00 AM
Thanks Bro, thats what I figured...

I think Winny tabs are good to jump start a cycle. 12 Weeks Test/Deca, Winny Tabs for the first 6 Wks. and Proviron the last 6 Wks. You'd make some good strength gains right from the start.

That's pretty much the cycle I'm going to be starting in a few weeks. I was thinking about running the proviron the whole time.

mkchll
06-23-2007, 05:59 AM
what are your goals? we need to work on your cycle a bit!

I'm 33 200lbs, jusr lost 12lbs, mostly fat. Haven't done a cycle in 8 years. This is the 1st, just started. I want to get shredded!!!! and stay around 200lbs.

Here's my cycle. I started this week, but i'm open to opinions, I can still change things up a little.


Winny Tabs Week 1-6 80mg
Test Cyp Week 1-8 500mg 8-12 250mg
Deca Week 1-6 400mg Week 6-10 300mg Week 10-12 200mg
Proviron Week 6-9 100mg 9-12 50mg

PCT Nolva/Clomid
Week 7-10 Liver/Galblader Cleanse

muqali
06-23-2007, 06:15 PM
The enzyme is naringin I believe.

mkchll
06-23-2007, 09:44 PM
CYP3A4 is the enzyme and furanocoumarins (few-ran-oh-COO-muh-rinns) is what the Grapefruit releases.

Here's a link. It a good read if you're interested in why certain people respond better to certain compounds. Maybe why everybody doesn't reponds well to oral Winny?:rolleyes:



http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=1790

blackson
06-30-2007, 09:29 AM
I'm 33 200lbs, jusr lost 12lbs, mostly fat. Haven't done a cycle in 8 years. This is the 1st, just started. I want to get shredded!!!! and stay around 200lbs.

Here's my cycle. I started this week, but i'm open to opinions, I can still change things up a little.


Winny Tabs Week 1-6 80mg
Test Cyp Week 1-8 500mg 8-12 250mg
Deca Week 1-6 400mg Week 6-10 300mg Week 10-12 200mg
Proviron Week 6-9 100mg 9-12 50mg

PCT Nolva/Clomid
Week 7-10 Liver/Galblader Cleanse


Hi, since no one has answered your question if winny has no taste, I will... Winny tabs have no taste :D

Now for your cycle...

80mg a day of winny is too much and there is no need to taper down cypionate and deca. Also you need to start pct 3 weeks after deca and two weeks after cypionate so you need to stop the deca one week before your test.

SO since you just started this week we can help you out.

Test C week 1-12 500mg a week
Deca week 1-11 400mg a week
Winny week 1-6 50mg a day
Proviron week 1-12 50mg a day

Standard PCT

This is a good cycle.

da-sol
06-30-2007, 10:13 AM
I'm 33 200lbs, jusr lost 12lbs, mostly fat. Haven't done a cycle in 8 years. This is the 1st, just started. I want to get shredded!!!! and stay around 200lbs.

Here's my cycle. I started this week, but i'm open to opinions, I can still change things up a little.


Winny Tabs Week 1-6 80mg
Test Cyp Week 1-8 500mg 8-12 250mg
Deca Week 1-6 400mg Week 6-10 300mg Week 10-12 200mg
Proviron Week 6-9 100mg 9-12 50mg

PCT Nolva/Clomid
Week 7-10 Liver/Galblader Cleanse

On top you said you did Zambons 5 years ago, but this post you said you have not done a cycle in 8 years.:confused:

SwoleTexasKid
06-30-2007, 12:05 PM
Hi, since no one has answered your question if winny has no taste, I will... Winny tabs have no taste :D

Now for your cycle...

80mg a day of winny is too much and there is no need to taper down cypionate and deca. Also you need to start pct 3 weeks after deca and two weeks after cypionate so you need to stop the deca one week before your test.

SO since you just started this week we can help you out.

Test C week 1-12 500mg a week
Deca week 1-11 400mg a week
Winny week 1-6 50mg a day
Proviron week 1-12 50mg a day

Standard PCT

This is a good cycle.

Bump this. Those lowered levels of Deca and Test would have messed up your cycle.

CountVascular
07-01-2007, 04:11 AM
WHY winny in the first 6 weeks and not the last??? Just a question.....was always of the believe it cut you up real good, so after bulking, it help keep things solid and hard.... :confused:

lola26
07-01-2007, 10:18 AM
blackson gave you the right advise. i would stop the deca 2 weeks before the test to avoid sides. i also suggest that you run the deca a min of 12 weeks to see good results, that means you would have to run the test for 14 weeks. also, i would run the winny until the last 5-6 weeks of the cycle.

blackson
07-01-2007, 12:00 PM
WHY winny in the first 6 weeks and not the last??? Just a question.....was always of the believe it cut you up real good, so after bulking, it help keep things solid and hard.... :confused:

The winny will kick start it, he could run it in the final 6 weeks if he didn't mind waiting 6 weeks for the test and deca to kick it.

Lola is also right about running deca 12 weeks and if you choose to you can quit 2 weeks before the test to make sure you're clear when you start pct.

So you could do two things here, use the winny to kick start, or use it to solidify gains.

Test C 500mg a week 1-14
Deca 400mg a week 1-12
Winny 50mg a day for 1 - 6 OR 50mg a day week 10 - 16
Proviron 50mg a day 1-16

week 16 - 19 Standard PCT

This is a big one!! GONNA LOOK LARGE AFTER THIS ONE :P

Machola
07-01-2007, 11:07 PM
YET IF YOU DO THE RESEARCH HERE IT SAYS THE WINNY ORAL IS MORE POWERFULL THAN DEPOT.......ANAVAR IS GREAT ORAL IDEAL LIKE AND EASY SSIDES, I ALSE READ HERE A GLASS OF FRESH GRAPEFRUIT JUICE!!!!!!!! HELPS ABSORB THE VAR.....AND wINNY

Fly

the count is right, i've read the oral is stronger than the injectable mg per mg. something to do with better nitrogen uptake er something

CountVascular
07-01-2007, 11:18 PM
you have to weigh up potency vs sides - i am going off orals, though I think Var is lovely..... :D