View Full Version : Novladex? How much?
stabmasterflex
10-07-2005, 12:44 AM
I'm about to go on my first cycle of test. I'll be taking Super Test 250 which is Sustanon i'm assuming. I don't know much about PCT but i know that there are some horror stories about clomid side effects. I'd like to take Novladex. How much should i take and is there anywhere that i can get Novladex legally?
antaero
10-07-2005, 01:42 AM
I'm about to go on my first cycle of test. I'll be taking Super Test 250 which is Sustanon i'm assuming. I don't know much about PCT but i know that there are some horror stories about clomid side effects. I'd like to take Novladex. How much should i take and is there anywhere that i can get Novladex legally?
I took clomid with no problems and worked great. I also combined it with nolva. As far as getting nolvadex legally, the only way would be through a doctor by prescription. And from what I read nolva doesn't really do all that much as far as raising nat test levels.
mickeymbbc
10-07-2005, 01:50 AM
I'm about to go on my first cycle of test. I'll be taking Super Test 250 which is Sustanon i'm assuming. I don't know much about PCT but i know that there are some horror stories about clomid side effects. I'd like to take Novladex. How much should i take and is there anywhere that i can get Novladex legally?
If you run novadex run it for atleast 3 weeks, but make sure that you start it at the correct time. I am not trying to lecture you or anything but never start a cycle without your PCT in place.
week1 40mg
week2 30mg
week3 20mg
Dont believe all the horror stories that you hear about clomid, they mostly come from people that learned from reading other posts in stead of from there exp. Clomid works fine with me and many others, you have to try one or the other to see what works for you.
Clomid
week1 150
week2 100
week3 50
-mick
Bucket
10-07-2005, 02:10 AM
bump mickey on the pct.
I don't know about source posting so if its wrong just let me know but AG-Guys carries liquid. But I would get it from Alin ;)
I'm about to go on my first cycle of test. I'll be taking Super Test 250 which is Sustanon i'm assuming. I don't know much about PCT but i know that there are some horror stories about clomid side effects. I'd like to take Novladex. How much should i take and is there anywhere that i can get Novladex legally?
Nolvadex is easily found. just look around.
PCT is for 3 weeks following cycle:
Clomid 100mg,50mg,50mg
Nolva 40mg,30mg,20mg
Beetlejuice
11-02-2005, 11:22 PM
I prefer Nolva during my cycle 10 mg- 20 mg a day, and clomid at the end. 100 mg a day x 2wks, then 50 mg a day x 2wks
JustBecause
11-03-2005, 12:48 AM
... I am not trying to lecture you or anything but never start a cycle without your PCT in place...
Dont believe all the horror stories that you hear about clomid...
-mick
as mac daddy moderator...you should lecture. :p there is a lot for people to learn from boards like this. and when mods take the initiative to "speak", lots of other members "listen". I learn a ton of valuable information just reading what others have to say...
therefore, I appreciate your "lectures"...keep 'em comin'!!!!
Abjo24
11-08-2005, 12:41 AM
Nolvadex is easily found. just look around.
PCT is for 3 weeks following cycle:
Clomid 100mg,50mg,50mg
Nolva 40mg,30mg,20mg
I assume these dosages are ED, correct Alin?
Gregalmighty
11-08-2005, 05:28 AM
That is correct :)
mickeymbbc
11-08-2005, 06:59 AM
I assume these dosages are ED, correct Alin?
Yea they are everyday buddy:)...Good luck with your cycle
-mick
anaholic
11-14-2005, 04:58 AM
I dont think supertest is sustunon, but that doesnt matter
nolvadex(tamoxifen citrate) is for women that have a tumor in thier mamory gland and its estrogen dependant for growth, the receptor sites on the mamory gland have an affinity for nolvadex, the nolvadex will readily occupy the estrogen receptors at the mamory gland, it can stay locked in there for up to 60 days, where as estrogen comes along and occupies the receptor for a few minutes sends a signal to grow then releases and floats away, literally hundreds off estrogens could send a signal in one day, there are several factors that are involved, the first being how much testosterone your body converts to estrogen, somebody with good genetics would convert less, also a key factor is the number of estrogen receptors on the mammory gland, another factor is the affinity the receptor has for the estrogen, with all this taken into account one can understand why some men have gynocomastia without ever taking a steroid, so if you plug the mammory receptors with nolvadex, the estrogen just floats by, with all this taken into account nolvadex would do the most good if taken at the start of a cycle :)
Gregalmighty
11-14-2005, 06:04 PM
Supertest 250 is sustanon(tornel) but the other supertests(350-450) are different all together. Different substances and esters vary from one manufacturer to another. That just my own exp.
MICK---We are always listening................mac daddy...........lol
anaholic
11-14-2005, 10:31 PM
I was thinking of IP supertest
mickeymbbc
11-15-2005, 12:29 AM
Supertest 250 is sustanon(tornel) but the other supertests(350-450) are different all together. Different substances and esters vary from one manufacturer to another. That just my own exp.
MICK---We are always listening................mac daddy...........lol
Bump Greg, he hit it right on the nose. From my experience, it varies from one Manufaturer to another
-mick
soulmate
11-15-2005, 10:23 AM
I don't think to many people know what nolv. ( tamoxifen citrate ) is ! It is an excellent anti-estrogen and you don't start taking it till your about 4 weeks into a cycle. 10mg. E.D. is fine and will keep your test & Dbol from aromatizing. Once you stop the test. though and the nolv. your estrogen receptors won't be covered anymore and the estrogen in you body will be having all night parties ! Thats why you need to supplement the nolv ( this is after you stopped the test ) and continued with the nolv. for four more weeks. those four weeks you need proviron ( mesterolone ) alot of people don't know it but proviron is a very remarkable drug. It does everything that nolv. does only it will not let the estrogen re-appear like the nolv. would when you stop. Keep in mind that if your doing the longer acting tests (enanthate,cypionate with Dbol or oxymetholone etc. you will have to keep the nolv and proviron up till the test is out of your system ! The proviron is a tremendous anti-estrogen plus it gives you harder pumps and muscles and puts away the estrogen for good. ( no more estrogen parties ! ). It also gives you harder erections,especially after a long time test cycle. Some people even consider that one of the adverse effects,personally I don't ! You should also start using HCG while your still taking the test for the last month or more depending on how much damage you have in the testes. Some people start using the HCG in the middle of there test. cycle, the HCG will play a big role in bringing your natural testosterone back to normal and will increase the size of your balls. Then finally for the stake through the heart you wrap it up with a 2-4 weeks of clomid. Don't go to that school where more is better because using too much of any of these can do just the opposite. Like the proviron , 25mg with 10 of nolv. ( keep in mind you been taking the nolv for the length of the cycle except the first 4 weeks ) is plenty, some hcg in the middle of the cycle for 3 weeks and the same at the end. 1500iu will increase testosterone production 300%, I do 2500 every 5 days because that is the smallest amount I have per ampule every You have to cycle the HCG so you would really do your body good to add some clen while your not taking the hcg and continue right to the clomid 100mg 7-10 days and 50mg 7-10 days depending on how much and how long you been doing the test. If you want to keep your gains you still have to work out while your taking these cycle ending drugs. I promise you , you will keep most of your gains and get you sexual stimulation back 100%. Just don't go crazy with the doses ! 5000iu every 5 days will stop the highest dose, longest test cycle especially if your doing dbol. or oxymeth. Don't take the HCG for more then 3 weeks at a time,then 2 weeks of clen 2 off back to the clen and hcg all the while you are taking 10 nolv and 25 proviron. It dosn't matter if your clen and hcg steps on each others foot as long as you keep 2 weeks without clen and 3 weeks without hcg. This anti-estrogen cycle I am giving you is not a hit and miss but a extreme necessity if you want to keep most gains and still be a man with balls !! I am 55 years old and been in and out of this for 35 years. I am sure your going to find people on this board who will put holes in this ! They don't know shit except what some other idiot told them. If you do this I am sure it will be your rule of the thumb forever on ! I hope I enlightened a few members and hope to hear from them after a hard testosterone,dbol or oxymetholone cycle, you'll need it ! Good Luck, soulmate
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