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jlo7719
06-06-2007, 04:17 AM
Lookin to getsome feedback on my 2nd cycle. I'm 6' 175 now about 10% bf. Tryin to keep it short as well. Lookin to put on bout 15 LEAN pounds and cut it up. Id like to get to 7-8% bf. I figure If I keep my diet clean and start some cardio I can get it down while gaining muscle.

sust 500 mg wk 1
sust 250 mg wk 2-8
dbol 20 mg ed wks 1-4
winny 50mg ed wks 2-8
clomid 100mg ed wk 10
clomid 50mg ed wk 11-12
nolva 20mg wk 10-12

I have a little proviron on hand (not much) about 25 50mg tabs. Think I should throw that in somewhere?

Look about right?

SwoleTexasKid
06-06-2007, 04:46 AM
Ok...check it, your pct is fine, and you want to run the winny towards the end, so you got that...

Run the Sust at a minimum of 500 mg/week. 250 will not do anything but shut down your own test production and when you add oral winny to that and dbol, you need the test there for foundation. Run the Sustanon at 500 mg for the whole cycle. Why not go 10 weeks on sust then start pct a week after last injection?

The dbol dosage looks a little light. I wouldnt run it any lower than 30mg for results. I run mine at 50 mg on training days when I use dbol. I also only run it for a month, which I see you have planned.

Proviron could be used towards the end of your cycle alongside the winny. It is one of the only orals that is not liver toxic, and Ive heard it hardens up your muscles nicely.

Remember when you use all these orals at once, you always run the risk of liver and kidney wear and tear. Thats why I use Masteron instead of Proviron and Injectable winny only. Just something to keep in mind.

Drink plenty of water and maybe cranberry or grape juice.

Hope this helps a bit. :D

jlo7719
06-06-2007, 05:47 AM
But won't the sust work for 2-3 wks after the last dose?
Also, I could bump the dbol up, but I'm afraid I'll get all bloated. I guess I could run some nolva along with it? I was thinkin that was where I would run the proviron, to prevent bloat.

jlo7719
06-06-2007, 05:54 AM
also, I got some milk thistle for the liver. ;)

SwoleTexasKid
06-06-2007, 05:55 AM
Well, dbol brings bloat ... no way around it. When you use dbol, you have to increase your cardio alongside it.

For every ten pounds you gain on dbol, you will only keep around 3 or 4

And you really do have to run the sust at 500 mg minimum.

jlo7719
06-06-2007, 05:59 AM
i heard of people get good results on 250 every monday and friday. I was thinkin of maybe doing that. Theres alot of conflicting info out there on how to run sust. I also heard every other day for 3 weeks then let it ride from there. I dont want a pin cushion for an ass though.

SwoleTexasKid
06-06-2007, 06:18 AM
Well yeah that works fine bro. That is 500 mg/wk. I understand the issue with your glute and scar tissue. Switch between your glutes and your delts.

Dont use it EOD. I have used Sustanon extensively and have it down to a science.

lola26
06-06-2007, 07:47 AM
bump everything swoll said. he is a sus & dbol pro!

blackson
06-07-2007, 04:41 AM
Lookin to getsome feedback on my 2nd cycle. I'm 6' 175 now about 10% bf. Tryin to keep it short as well. Lookin to put on bout 15 LEAN pounds and cut it up. Id like to get to 7-8% bf. I figure If I keep my diet clean and start some cardio I can get it down while gaining muscle.

sust 500 mg wk 1
sust 250 mg wk 2-8
dbol 20 mg ed wks 1-4
winny 50mg ed wks 2-8
clomid 100mg ed wk 10
clomid 50mg ed wk 11-12
nolva 20mg wk 10-12

I have a little proviron on hand (not much) about 25 50mg tabs. Think I should throw that in somewhere?

Look about right?

Here's my suggestion

Sust 500mg wk 1-8
Dbol 30mg ed wk 1-4
Winny 40mg ed wk 4-8
Standard pct

Take milk thistle from day one and don't drink, if you're one of those people that can't go without drinking then just run one of those orals for 4 weeks. I love dbol but winstrol does harden you up nice and it is summer, but it won't add any mass and if you haven't experienced winstrol yet, the sore joints thing isn't a joke, it drys you out BAD so take some joint support supplement. They take awhile to begin working so start the joint support from day one.

So basically if you choose to run dbol only, run it weeks 1-4 40mg a day if you choose to run winstrol only run it weeks 4-8 50mg a day

And if you haven't ordered winny yet, I suggest the 10mg tabs, the 50's suck IMO.

Have fun with the cycle :p

jlo7719
06-09-2007, 01:09 AM
Thanks for all the input dudes. I'll take the advice, and let y'all know how it goes!