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mdoyle44
06-01-2007, 01:40 AM
So ive been doing a lot of reading on Tren only cycles, some people say its stupid because of how hard it shuts you down and others say it leads to quality lean gains, whats the overall opinion with you guys about tren only?

bod1ggity
06-01-2007, 07:09 AM
So ive been doing a lot of reading on Tren only cycles, some people say its stupid because of how hard it shuts you down and others say it leads to quality lean gains, whats the overall opinion with you guys about tren only?
Tren by itself it really idiotic... I have run tren cycles without test(but I ran alot of other AAS), but its not easy and should only be done by people with alot of AAS experience. If your looking for lean gains with Tren, you should do a standard Tren Ace + Test Prop combo at 100mg/eod of each for 8 weeks... with Proviron or Masteron as an Anti-E and then standard PCT.

the insect
06-01-2007, 07:59 AM
Just 8 weeks ? Doin that cycle in July could it be bumped to 10 weeks for the tren &say 12 for the test &masteron? Injections eod Just curious

bod1ggity
06-01-2007, 08:32 AM
Just 8 weeks ? Doin that cycle in July could it be bumped to 10 weeks for the tren &say 12 for the test &masteron? Injections eod Just curious
yes... tren ace is a short ester just like test prop... so eod injections would keep steady levels... I wouldnt want to run Tren Ace for 12 weeks... hell on your system

mdoyle44
06-01-2007, 08:56 AM
how much masteron to be used?

bod1ggity
06-01-2007, 09:06 AM
how much masteron to be used?
100mg/eod... you can do it all as 1 3cc shot eod

dead i katd
06-01-2007, 10:45 AM
test should be ran higher than tren

50mg tren w/ 100 mg of test should be fine

tren ace is way better ED than EOD

dmoune1
06-01-2007, 11:24 AM
how should u run T3 with 10 weeks of tren ace, since it lowers ur thyroid levels?

johnny1592468
06-01-2007, 01:59 PM
You can either run the t3 at just 25mcg a day to keep you thyroid levels up while on tren or to burn some extra fat cycle the t3 up from 25mcg for 4days, 50mcgs for 4days, 75mcgs for 4 days, 100mcgs for 18days, 75mcgs for 4days, 50mcgs for 4 days, 25 mcgs for 4 days. You should only run the t3 for up to 6 weeks maximum.

bod1ggity
06-01-2007, 03:47 PM
test should be ran higher than tren

50mg tren w/ 100 mg of test should be fine

tren ace is way better ED than EOD
I dont know where you have heard this... 50mg/tren ace eod sounds like a waste of $$$ to me, ive never ran it less that 100mg/eod

sammarbella
06-02-2007, 10:09 AM
You can either run the t3 at just 25mcg a day to keep you thyroid levels up while on tren or to burn some extra fat cycle the t3 up from 25mcg for 4days, 50mcgs for 4days, 75mcgs for 4 days, 100mcgs for 18days, 75mcgs for 4days, 50mcgs for 4 days, 25 mcgs for 4 days. You should only run the t3 for up to 6 weeks maximum.

I always wonder where is the origin of this "6 weeks maximum" or "8 weeks maximum" i NEVER found a single study showing permanent shutdown of endo T3 production after exo T3 protocols for 6,8, 12 weeks or even years of CONTINIOUS use.

It's only fear about sides and net rumours or is there REAL data about this subject?

:confused:

johnny1592468
06-02-2007, 12:57 PM
I have read articles stating the same thing but going on the information i have heard from senior members on this board its better to be safe than sorry.

bod1ggity
06-02-2007, 01:02 PM
I always wonder where is the origin of this "6 weeks maximum" or "8 weeks maximum" i NEVER found a single study showing permanent shutdown of endo T3 production after exo T3 protocols for 6,8, 12 weeks or even years of CONTINIOUS use.

It's only fear about sides and net rumours or is there REAL data about this subject?

:confused:
the fact is that there arent alot of scientific studies on tren at reasonably high dosages for long periods. I would rather play it safe and use it how I have (8-10 weeks of ace is more than enough)... I think that if you cant get the results in 8 weeks with short esters then your really doing something wrong or setting your goals way to high

sammarbella
06-03-2007, 03:22 AM
the fact is that there arent alot of scientific studies on tren at reasonably high dosages for long periods. I would rather play it safe and use it how I have (8-10 weeks of ace is more than enough)... I think that if you cant get the results in 8 weeks with short esters then your really doing something wrong or setting your goals way to high

:confused:

I think you lost the point.

I was talking about T3 (thyroid hormone) NOT Trenbolone....:rolleyes:

bod1ggity
06-03-2007, 09:54 AM
:confused:

I think you lost the point.

I was talking about T3 (thyroid hormone) NOT Trenbolone....:rolleyes:
same thing goes for T3... hypothyroidism isnt somthing I would wish upon anyone... its always better to be safe then sorry when your messing with something as volitile as thyroid function

muscle22
06-03-2007, 10:51 PM
ive got really good results on 75mg eod but i did like it at 100mg eod, it sucks being a pin chusion but thats part of the game. you can run sust at 200 mg eod with 75-100mg tren eod, with the added benefit of t3 if you want, just be careful or you could mess your thyroid up, and that would be counter productive of the results your wanting.


muscle

dead i katd
06-04-2007, 09:58 AM
I dont know where you have heard this... 50mg/tren ace eod sounds like a waste of $$$ to me, ive never ran it less that 100mg/eod

read it again never said 50 eod....50ed hense the fact i said tren ace is way better ED getchur mind right

bod1ggity
06-04-2007, 11:56 PM
read it again never said 50 eod....50ed hense the fact i said tren ace is way better ED getchur mind right
100/eod will maintain almost the exact same levels as 50/ed... and you will cut your injections in half. Risk of infection in half...ect.

Fuck wha-cha Herd

dead i katd
06-05-2007, 03:38 AM
If using tren ace ED injections are better --- less sides AND better gains

Donovan is in my town now baby!