New forum member here...question for old timers

[methyl3]

have been an athlete my whole life (football up through college and track) and the only anabolics I have ever used was deca and winny. Never used deca again (got gyno) and have done 2 cycles of Zambon winny depot in the past three years. I weigh about 187 now, but have always gained about 10 lbs of muscle from only 2 week cycles with a front load of 100 mg and then 50 ED. So please do not tell me I need test etc etc. I enjoy my shape and size and do not want to exceed it ( I like my clothes! LOL).

Can anyone please tell me if the BD winny depot is any good? I saw a post on hear from the admin showing an analysis sheet ( i use to be an R&D Pharma chemist) and obviously the final numbers look good, but without chromatograms they really are not relevant. I am still waiting approval for the store, but someone made a comment about needing to take B12 with the winny because of the burn. Is this an issue? I have never had to do anything like that with the Zambon Winstrol Depot I have always obtained. Thanks for the help and sorry about the ignorance! :)

[diesel]

ya got gyno from Deca?

[methyl3]

Well, when your ignorant to anabolics and decide to do it for 18 weeks in a row with no anti e's......I see no other causes. I also had my nuts and peter the size of raisins and dysfunctional for a good montha and a half.

[Alin]

All the BD (British Dragon) products are superior! Great line of products.

[Tyree33]

Go easy Methyl3, it's a logical question and it's your bad for not running your cycle properly. Most people don't get gyno from deca if they're smart and use anti-e's.

[methyl3]

Go easy Methyl3, it's a logical question and it's your bad for not running your cycle properly. Most people don't get gyno from deca if they're smart and use anti-e's.


Well, I apologize if I offended you, but I was not responding in an aggressive manner. I don't have anything against Deca in respects to the gyno I got....I just don'tlike its suppressive characteristics. Forall I know I could have obtained gyno from heightened sensitivity to progesterone rather than estrogen. Which in that case anti e's wouldn't have helped.

The reason I responded that way in the initial thread is because, like most people in this world, people on BB for weight lifting seems to be very ignorant to the physiology and biochemistry of anabolics and the human body. On virtually every board if you ask about a winnie only cycle people will tell you "no way", but they don't realize that some people aren't looking to put on 30 lbs of muscle. Some people are satisfied with an extra 5-10 lbs of solid muscle which is easily retained when off with adequate lifting. I personally love winny. Thanks.

[btmhwb]

deca can and will cause gyno from progesterone induced effects.... Bromocriptine and or vitex will remedy that though.....

[Tyree33]

It's all good methyl
-T-

[mickeymbbc]

deca can and will cause gyno from progesterone induced effects.... Bromocriptine and or vitex will remedy that though.....


Bump btmhwb: BROMO OR B6 400-600MGmg for Gyno.



-MICK