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supermatt
05-23-2007, 01:08 PM
I have a lingering chronic problem...low sex drive after my cycle. Now I knew it would happen but I didn't think it would be this bad. I finished my cycle 6 weeks ago and I'm still having difficulties... My girlfriend is getting annoyed and impatient with me. I keep trying to explain the post cycle crash to her but she doesn't understand. I'm afraid this is going to hurt our relationship.

So what I'm wondering is how long will it take for my body to recover? I'm taking clomid and nolvadex for my PCT which will be over in a few days. I'm very frustrated right now and need to know that things will improve. :(

Martek
05-23-2007, 02:09 PM
I have a lingering chronic problem...low sex drive after my cycle. Now I knew it would happen but I didn't think it would be this bad. I finished my cycle 6 weeks ago and I'm still having difficulties... My girlfriend is getting annoyed and impatient with me. I keep trying to explain the post cycle crash to her but she doesn't understand. I'm afraid this is going to hurt our relationship.

So what I'm wondering is how long will it take for my body to recover? I'm taking clomid and nolvadex for my PCT which will be over in a few days. I'm very frustrated right now and need to know that things will improve. :(


What was your cycle and what gains you gain off of it? Also if PCT is taken properly you should already start normalizing out. sry to hear that bro.

giff
05-23-2007, 04:18 PM
next time you order from alin get some cialis too.. good stuff lasts 2 days :D

fr8lnr01
05-23-2007, 10:44 PM
What about the hcg? Did you forget about the hcg? You did, didn't you?

supermatt
05-24-2007, 01:01 AM
I did the "Men's 8 week bulking cycle" on Alinshop: 750 mg Sustanon, 400 mg Deca once a week for 8 weeks. Dianabol 30 mg/day for 6 weeks, Arimidex 0.25mg everyday for 10 weeks, 500 iu of HCG every 5 days for 10 weeks. My PCT: Week 11 - 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid everyday, Week 12 - 30mg Nolva/50mg Clomid everyday, Week 13 - 20mg Nolva/50mg Clomid everyday (in 3 days my PCT will be over).

My sex drive was REALLY high during the 8 weeks I was taking testosterone and for about 2 weeks afterwards...then I crashed and couldn't even get an erection. I went to the doctor and he gave me a sample of Levitra, which was only 2 pills!!!! I said can't you prescribe me a whole bottle?? He said, "You're too young to be taking ED medication. This is just to help you the next couple times. I don't want you to become dependent on them." I didn't tell him it was because of steroids because the other 3 doctors I went to before him and told them the truth freaked out and started lecturing me about the dangers of AAS. Then when I'd ask them for help they said they didn't want anything to do with me and kicked me out of their clinic. :mad: So the 4th doctor who gave me Levitra did not get all the facts and assumed it was probably just psychological.

Yeah cialis sounds great, I ordered some from Alinshop but it's been 20 days and it still hasn't arrived!!!

I also ordered some Supertest and am soooo tempted to start using it as soon as it gets here...it's been 6 weeks since I did any AAS...is that a long enough break to safely start injecting test again??? I blame the Deca for this ED, I think I'm very sensitive to it or something. That's the last time I use Deca.

Martek
05-24-2007, 01:09 AM
I did the "Men's 8 week bulking cycle" on Alinshop: 750 mg Sustanon, 400 mg Deca once a week for 8 weeks. Dianabol 30 mg/day for 6 weeks, Arimidex 0.25mg everyday for 10 weeks, 500 iu of HCG every 5 days for 10 weeks. My PCT: Week 11 - 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid everyday, Week 12 - 30mg Nolva/50mg Clomid everyday, Week 13 - 20mg Nolva/50mg Clomid everyday (in 3 days my PCT will be over).

My sex drive was REALLY high during the 8 weeks I was taking testosterone and for about 2 weeks afterwards...then I crashed and couldn't even get an erection. I went to the doctor and he gave me a sample of Levitra, which was only 2 pills!!!! I said can't you prescribe me a whole bottle?? He said, "You're too young to be taking ED medication. This is just to help you the next couple times. I don't want you to become dependent on them." I didn't tell him it was because of steroids because the other 3 doctors I went to before him and told them the truth freaked out and started lecturing me about the dangers of AAS. Then when I'd ask them for help they said they didn't want anything to do with me and kicked me out of their clinic. :mad: So the 4th doctor who gave me Levitra did not get all the facts and assumed it was probably just psychological.

Yeah cialis sounds great, I ordered some from Alinshop but it's been 20 days and it still hasn't arrived!!!

I also ordered some Supertest and am soooo tempted to start using it as soon as it gets here...it's been 6 weeks since I did any AAS...is that a long enough break to safely start injecting test again??? I blame the Deca for this ED, I think I'm very sensitive to it or something. That's the last time I use Deca.

Yeah many people dont favor deca because of the feared deca dick, in this case you got it. Sry to hear. Youre not old enough???? You sound like a kid how old are you if your doc said that? Oh and also my friend, how was the cycle and did you gain what your goal was to?

supermatt
05-24-2007, 06:05 AM
I'm 21. The doctor said I was too young to be taking erectile dysfunction medication. But he didn't know I had Deca Dick. I didn't tell him because of the previous doctors reactions. He said, "You are young, you should be in your sexual prime. You shouldn't need ED medication."

Despite all the nastiness of the post cycle crash I'm still glad I did it. I went from 162 lbs to 180 lbs. It was all muscle and keep in mind I'm only 5'7".

fr8lnr01
05-24-2007, 08:29 AM
Supermatt, you can purchase liquid forms of ed meds on www.ag-guys.com . You may want to try running PCT again or start your next cycle now. And go to your user settings(User CP) and turn on your pm's for this board.

SwoleTexasKid
05-24-2007, 08:40 AM
I did the "Men's 8 week bulking cycle" on Alinshop: 750 mg Sustanon, 400 mg Deca once a week for 8 weeks. Dianabol 30 mg/day for 6 weeks, Arimidex 0.25mg everyday for 10 weeks, 500 iu of HCG every 5 days for 10 weeks. My PCT: Week 11 - 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid everyday, Week 12 - 30mg Nolva/50mg Clomid everyday, Week 13 - 20mg Nolva/50mg Clomid everyday (in 3 days my PCT will be over).

My sex drive was REALLY high during the 8 weeks I was taking testosterone and for about 2 weeks afterwards...then I crashed and couldn't even get an erection. I went to the doctor and he gave me a sample of Levitra, which was only 2 pills!!!! I said can't you prescribe me a whole bottle?? He said, "You're too young to be taking ED medication. This is just to help you the next couple times. I don't want you to become dependent on them." I didn't tell him it was because of steroids because the other 3 doctors I went to before him and told them the truth freaked out and started lecturing me about the dangers of AAS. Then when I'd ask them for help they said they didn't want anything to do with me and kicked me out of their clinic. :mad: So the 4th doctor who gave me Levitra did not get all the facts and assumed it was probably just psychological.

Yeah cialis sounds great, I ordered some from Alinshop but it's been 20 days and it still hasn't arrived!!!

I also ordered some Supertest and am soooo tempted to start using it as soon as it gets here...it's been 6 weeks since I did any AAS...is that a long enough break to safely start injecting test again??? I blame the Deca for this ED, I think I'm very sensitive to it or something. That's the last time I use Deca.


Sheeyit thats long enough. I usually take a couple weeks off inbetween cycles, as long as you nolva clomid you are golden after a month. This is strictly IMO

By the way the Supertest is GREAT!!

Also, you could do two cycles in this manner, but I would take a much longer break inbetween when you do the next.

Martek
05-24-2007, 09:24 AM
I'm 21. The doctor said I was too young to be taking erectile dysfunction medication. But he didn't know I had Deca Dick. I didn't tell him because of the previous doctors reactions. He said, "You are young, you should be in your sexual prime. You shouldn't need ED medication."

Despite all the nastiness of the post cycle crash I'm still glad I did it. I went from 162 lbs to 180 lbs. It was all muscle and keep in mind I'm only 5'7".

Understood, my apologies on the kid part. Doctors these days damn!! LOL. Great to hear on your gains though!!! looking forward to mind as well.

supermatt
05-24-2007, 10:13 AM
What do you mean I should turn on my PM's? Can't people send me PM's? I went to the User CP and it said I didn't have any private messages but I can have up to 50.

Martek
05-24-2007, 10:20 AM
Go to User CP > EDIT OPTIONS > Check the private messaging enable option.

supermatt
05-24-2007, 10:20 AM
I want to get your guys opinion on this:

I read that if your estrogen is really low it can kill your sex drive. High testosterone makes it go up but your estrogen should be at normal levels or your libido will suffer. Is that true? Because I was taking Arimidex ed for 10 weeks to keep my estrogen low, and then the clomid and nolva I'm taking now are keeping it low so maybe I should lay off the anti-estrogens next time and only use them if my nipples start to get sensitive? I've heard you should only be taking just enough anti-estrogens not to get gyno and nothing more or you will kill your sex drive. But remember I didn't have any problems until 2 weeks after my last injection.

supermatt
05-24-2007, 10:27 AM
OK I've enabled PM's. Thanks Martek!

Martek
05-24-2007, 10:48 AM
I want to get your guys opinion on this:

I read that if your estrogen is really low it can kill your sex drive. High testosterone makes it go up but your estrogen should be at normal levels or your libido will suffer. Is that true? Because I was taking Arimidex ed for 10 weeks to keep my estrogen low, and then the clomid and nolva I'm taking now are keeping it low so maybe I should lay off the anti-estrogens next time and only use them if my nipples start to get sensitive? I've heard you should only be taking just enough anti-estrogens not to get gyno and nothing more or you will kill your sex drive. But remember I didn't have any problems until 2 weeks after my last injection.


Every body is different. In my rule of thumb that I will follow and be following is, have the Arimidex, Nolva, etc on hand IN CASE you start having those side effects. If you are doing well even through mid cycle, then yes I can see where taking those ed for 10 weeks kind of messed with you a bit. Im no expert, but with no signs of anything and taking Arimidex ed = something pushin it.. this is my take on that. I do hope your levels return to normal which they should very well do so. Also, you are welcome on the PM tip, I was tipped by someone on this board the same thing. I guess PM's are auto disabled on account startup lol.

supermatt
05-24-2007, 11:35 PM
I haven't received any of my order yet but when it gets here I'm starting another cycle. Here's the list:

Supertest 900mg/week for 10 weeks
Anadrol 100mg/day for 7 weeks
Arimidex will only be taken during the cycle if side effects appear.
HCG 500 iu every 5 days for 11 weeks

For PCT:
Week 13 - 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid
Week 14 - 30mg Nolva/50mg Clomid
Week 15 - 20mg Nolva/50mg Clomid

And I'll take Cialis before I go to my girlfriend's place. ;)

Oh and I realize I'll be using some highly androgenic steroids but I feel I need them to kick start my sex drive.

IronBod
05-25-2007, 05:14 AM
I haven't received any of my order yet but when it gets here I'm starting another cycle. Here's the list:

Supertest 900mg/week for 10 weeks
Anadrol 100mg/day for 7 weeks
Arimidex will only be taken during the cycle if side effects appear.
HCG 500 iu every 5 days for 11 weeks

For PCT:
Week 13 - 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid
Week 14 - 30mg Nolva/50mg Clomid
Week 15 - 20mg Nolva/50mg Clomid

And I'll take Cialis before I go to my girlfriend's place. ;)

Oh and I realize I'll be using some highly androgenic steroids but I feel I need them to kick start my sex drive.

Your 21 and this is going to be your 2nd cycle. Hmm

Martek
05-25-2007, 05:42 AM
Your 21 and this is going to be your 2nd cycle. Hmm Not bad, assuming you'll be 22 this year! Great cycle looking.

supermatt
05-25-2007, 06:44 AM
"Your 21 and this is going to be your 2nd cycle. Hmm"

No it's my 3rd cycle. My first was Deca only at a very low dose 400mg/week for 8 weeks.

sammarbella
05-25-2007, 10:23 AM
"Your 21 and this is going to be your 2nd cycle. Hmm"

No it's my 3rd cycle. My first was Deca only at a very low dose 400mg/week for 8 weeks.

Stats?

supermatt
05-25-2007, 02:42 PM
The first deca only cycle was nice. I went from 140 lbs to 155 lbs. I think the only reason I gained so much muscle was because I was small and it's always easier to gain with a low dose at the beginning and then later if you keep taking that low dose it won't work anymore. That's why pros take so much.

I finished my second cycle 6 weeks ago and just finished the PCT. It was the "Men's 8 week bulking cycle", it's on Alinshop. That brought me from 162 to 180 lbs. :)

Since I finished my second cycle my weight has dropped to 174 despite diligent training and eating. I hate losing 6 pounds of muscle!!! :mad: When is my supertest going to get here???

lola26
05-25-2007, 11:53 PM
maybe you just have an ugly girl, thats why you cant get it up. lol. just kidding, good luck with the limp noodle!

Martek
05-26-2007, 02:43 AM
The first deca only cycle was nice. I went from 140 lbs to 155 lbs. I think the only reason I gained so much muscle was because I was small and it's always easier to gain with a low dose at the beginning and then later if you keep taking that low dose it won't work anymore. That's why pros take so much.

I finished my second cycle 6 weeks ago and just finished the PCT. It was the "Men's 8 week bulking cycle", it's on Alinshop. That brought me from 162 to 180 lbs. :)

Since I finished my second cycle my weight has dropped to 174 despite diligent training and eating. I hate losing 6 pounds of muscle!!! :mad: When is my supertest going to get here???

OUCH! Well you'll be fine I am sure of it! Just eat your ass off I dont care if you say you are eating, you really aren't until you see yourself keeping weight and not losing it in 6 weeks. Its normal to lose 6lbs and it might not even be muscle... how would you figure that?? Could be excess fat you dont need that shed off.. water weight, etc.

supermatt
05-26-2007, 09:47 AM
My supertest arrived today!!!!!!! :D

I injected 2cc or 900mg and I can't wait till it kicks in!! That's why I'm also taking Anadrol 100mg.

Oh and I think the main reason I lost 6 lbs was I was eating whenever I was hungry but I just didn't get very hungry after my cycle. During my cycle I was eating large volumes of food constantly. That's another reason why AAS works so well, because it stimulates appetite.