Bulking cycle query

[nigeld]

Looking to do a bulking cycle in the near future, this being my 4th cycle in 3 years. What I would like to get clarified is the real difference between the 8 week mens bulking cycle pack and the 12 week bulking cycle premium pack offered. Also could I take proviron thoughout as I have previously done.
I have made steady gains over the last 3 years going from 168lbs to 190lbs with bf of 14% currenty and being 6ft tall. My last two cycles were Test Enth and Eq for 12 weeks.
My aim overall aim is to gain mass and strength.
Thanks

[bod1ggity]

clarify something for me, I might be reading this wrong... you have done 3 cycles in 3 years so far and you have only gone from 168-190? Whats your diet and training like?

[lola26]

shit, i have put 14lbs on in 7 weeks of a test e and eq cycle. lots of protein lots of sleep, oh yeah, i lift a little here and there!

[jtat326]

Damn, Lola. No one told me you have to lift weights with this stuff too.

[nigeld]

Having read my post again I can see its somewhat misleading. In fact last autumn I ended up in hospital with a stomach bacterial bug and I lost 32lbs in five weeks. All my hard work went down the drain literally. I have gained back about half of this. I am doing a 4 day split Mon - chest, shoulders, tri's Tues - back, bi's Wed - rest Thurs - legs, Fri - as per Mon and then rotation every week.
Diet is now back to being good but for the last few months I have just been trying to eat loads of carbs and protein to gain weight. I am and always have been a lean ectomorph hard gainer.
Any advice really welcomed bro's on my next cycle.

[lola26]

Damn, Lola. No one told me you have to lift weights with this stuff too.



i hope you know i was being sarcastic!!:D

[bod1ggity]

Ok, you really want to toss on weight... go with the weight gainers.

Decca 600mg/wk 1-10
Test Cyp 500mg/wk 1-12
Anadrol 50mg/ed 1-6

toss in an anti-e of choice to run with the cycle, some HCG after about the 4th week and Clen + Clomid + Nolv for pct.

another option would be fast esters for 6 weeks

Nadrolone Phynel 100mg/eod wk 1-6
Test Propionate 100mg/eod wk 1-6
Anadrol 50mg/ed wk 1-6

with a cycle like this one you could eat like mad and not really put on a lb of fat.... I would probably run proviron with this.

[jtat326]

Bod1, I know you're a fan of short esters and the short cyclles that go with them. For the last 7 years or so I've pretty much stuck with mid to long esters and longer cycles. My main reason has been that in my mind I think I'll have better keeps. Mainly thinking a big crash as they all leave your system right after coming off. I know I maybe off base with this, it's just something that I figured in my own mind. How tough is it to keep gains on a cyclelike that. Any different than the first one deca/cyp that I've done in the past and loved?

[bod1ggity]

Bod1, I know you're a fan of short esters and the short cyclles that go with them. For the last 7 years or so I've pretty much stuck with mid to long esters and longer cycles. My main reason has been that in my mind I think I'll have better keeps. Mainly thinking a big crash as they all leave your system right after coming off. I know I maybe off base with this, it's just something that I figured in my own mind. How tough is it to keep gains on a cyclelike that. Any different than the first one deca/cyp that I've done in the past and loved?
True story. A friend of mine did a 6 week blast cycle... the exact one I posted. Ate upwards of 5000 cals a day... High protien, High carb. Lifted like a beast... anyways he gained 36lbs in 6 weeks and kept 26lbs... (dont forget the water weight) and during his PCT he contracted the Flu... so part of his loss was from that as well. The fact is that short esters are going to be in your system faster and out of it faster, they are more effective sooner and out sooner which if your PCT properly you can recover from pretty fast.

[bod1ggity]

True story. A friend of mine did a 6 week blast cycle... the exact one I posted. Ate upwards of 5000 cals a day... High protien, High carb. Lifted like a beast... anyways he gained 36lbs in 6 weeks and kept 26lbs... (dont forget the water weight) and during his PCT he contracted the Flu... so part of his loss was from that as well. The fact is that short esters are going to be in your system faster and out of it faster, they are more effective sooner and out sooner which if your PCT properly you can recover from pretty fast.
Oh I forgot to mention, on the fast estered cycle, he also dropped 2% bf

[SwoleTexasKid]

Ok, you really want to toss on weight... go with the weight gainers.

Decca 600mg/wk 1-10
Test Cyp 500mg/wk 1-12
Anadrol 50mg/ed 1-6

toss in an anti-e of choice to run with the cycle, some HCG after about the 4th week and Clen + Clomid + Nolv for pct.

another option would be fast esters for 6 weeks

Nadrolone Phynel 100mg/eod wk 1-6
Test Propionate 100mg/eod wk 1-6
Anadrol 50mg/ed wk 1-6

with a cycle like this one you could eat like mad and not really put on a lb of fat.... I would probably run proviron with this.

Agreed. This is a very good bulking cycle.

[jtat326]

I won't do alkylated orals anymore, so you think the short ester cycle is ok without it, maybe add mast and/or proviron?

[bod1ggity]

I won't do alkylated orals anymore, so you think the short ester cycle is ok without it, maybe add mast and/or proviron?
yah, Masteron 100mg/eod as your AI... works wonders