View Full Version : best length of a cycle
iamyoulden
04-29-2007, 06:20 AM
just wondering what the benefits are for taking a longer cycle such as 10-12 weeks as opposed to like 6 weeks. Hopefully in like a week im goin to be starting my fourth cycle and i've always cycled for like 5-6 weeks but i noticed that a lot of people seem to be cycling for close to three months. im gonna be taking 2cc of deca and 2cc of test e every week with a pct of clomid nolv. and clenb. i got my gear in preparation for roughly a 5 week cycle, but i wanna know who cycles longer and what the benefit is and/or which cycling method is better
russb
04-29-2007, 06:33 AM
i think one of the reasons is test e has a half life of about 4-5 weeks i think...not 100% on that though!
Martek
04-29-2007, 09:05 AM
just wondering what the benefits are for taking a longer cycle such as 10-12 weeks as opposed to like 6 weeks. Hopefully in like a week im goin to be starting my fourth cycle and i've always cycled for like 5-6 weeks but i noticed that a lot of people seem to be cycling for close to three months. im gonna be taking 2cc of deca and 2cc of test e every week with a pct of clomid nolv. and clenb. i got my gear in preparation for roughly a 5 week cycle, but i wanna know who cycles longer and what the benefit is and/or which cycling method is better
Test will NOT start to FULLY kick in til week 4 or so, but bro if you can get that test to 10-12 weeks man. Run it, you are going to waste your gear if you stop short.
CREAM
04-29-2007, 09:19 AM
Agree with Martek. Run the test for 12 weeks, and the deca for 10. Same pct. You'll love it, 5 weeks, and you of when the fun startes :D
Peace
lola26
04-29-2007, 09:24 AM
test e should be run at least 10 - 12 weeks. i am running a test e / eq cycle for 18 weeks.
fr8lnr01
04-29-2007, 09:32 AM
If you read a lot, a whole lot, you will see that it is recommended to cycle for 10-12 weeks in order to solidify your gains. Now on certain highly toxic AAS it is recommended to go shorter because toxicity issues. Deca 10-12 test+2. Put six quarters on the table take away 6 you got nothing. put 12 quarters up there and take away six... still got six quarters? Your packing protein into those muscle cells and stretching the fascia and soon increasing satellite cells, the longer the better. You need to cut it sooner or later or you become dependent on the exogenous testosterone and the other shit starts to really create problems with HPT axis. Look go get a balloon and blow into it for 6 seconds let the air out and check it for structural changes, now blow into it for 12 seconds and check it for changes. Now put you 6 extra quarters in the balloon and check it out. I don't know.. you just do what people have proven to be right.
SwoleTexasKid
04-29-2007, 09:38 AM
Sheeyit Im a little over halfway point of a 20 week cycle now. Im strechin it;)
Martek
04-29-2007, 09:42 AM
Sheeyit Im a little over halfway point of a 20 week cycle now. Im strechin it;)
Me too, although my penis only got to 3 inches in length.. I was disappointed by this so called "gear" as I was expecting serious changes.:D
crfpilot14
04-29-2007, 06:10 PM
i think one of the reasons is test e has a half life of about 4-5 weeks i think...not 100% on that though!
If you dont know what you are talking about then why post it? Test E has a half-life of 10-12days.
Martek
04-29-2007, 08:32 PM
If you dont know what you are talking about then why post it? Test E has a half-life of 10-12days.
Excellent post, that is true. I was going to comment this but its not nearly as bad as Arby's post lol.
iamyoulden
04-29-2007, 10:07 PM
so it seems like the majority of people here hate their livers and like running a 10-12 week cycle. everyone must be drinking milk thistle like its water...not that there's anything wrong with that...but if i only got enough gear and planned out my cycle for about 5 weeks whats the verdict on stopping the cycle or just keep going with it
SwoleTexasKid
04-30-2007, 12:04 AM
so it seems like the majority of people here hate their livers and like running a 10-12 week cycle. everyone must be drinking milk thistle like its water...not that there's anything wrong with that...but if i only got enough gear and planned out my cycle for about 5 weeks whats the verdict on stopping the cycle or just keep going with it
Bro, there is nothing wrong with a 10-12 week cycle, and 5 weeks is not enough time for most Steroid products to even really get rolling.
And as for the liver, yeah, if you are taking a ton of orals, you could fuck it up, but I only run injectables.
lola26
04-30-2007, 12:40 AM
Bro, there is nothing wrong with a 10-12 week cycle, and 5 weeks is not enough time for most Steroid products to even really get rolling.
And as for the liver, yeah, if you are taking a ton of orals, you could fuck it up, but I only run injectables.
bump. 5 weeks is a waste of money.
lola26
04-30-2007, 12:41 AM
think someone should do a little more reading!!!
iamyoulden
04-30-2007, 12:51 AM
not at all, i've been reading for over 3 years but i just happen to be the only one in my area with any gear so im flying solo. not only that my fucking libido practically died for 2 months after my last cycle so i was trying to keep it short. i went from hero to zero with the ladies in nascar fashion.
anyway, i got 10cc dec. and 10cc test e so in order to not blow this shit, should i start with the test and then jump in with the dec. to extend the cycle at like week 3 or 4. cause i obviously dont have enough of both to have a full 10-12 week cycle
lola26
04-30-2007, 02:37 AM
not at all, i've been reading for over 3 years but i just happen to be the only one in my area with any gear so im flying solo. not only that my fucking libido practically died for 2 months after my last cycle so i was trying to keep it short. i went from hero to zero with the ladies in nascar fashion.
anyway, i got 10cc dec. and 10cc test e so in order to not blow this shit, should i start with the test and then jump in with the dec. to extend the cycle at like week 3 or 4. cause i obviously dont have enough of both to have a full 10-12 week cycle
1. where is your pct? have you ever done any pct?
2. do it right, get what you need to do a proper cycle, then start it.
3. if you have been researching for 3years you would know all of this!
iamyoulden
04-30-2007, 03:48 AM
well smart guy if you read the original post you would see that my pct includes clomid, nolv. and clenb
im looking for someone to tell me how to apparently save this cycle, not tell me to read more about pct
CREAM
04-30-2007, 06:13 AM
Have to agree here, if you read for 3 years, you should know that the test take about 4 weeks, before it get's taken up in your body, and Deca takes even one til two weeks more.
If you start with test for 5 weeks, then do 5 weeks with deca, what will happen you think? 10-12 weeks is the only way to use what you got! And that's 10-12 weeks of both at the same time!
We are only trying to help you to get this right, and help you to get good results. If you run this cycle, I bet that you will not gain much LBM, maybe some fat.
If you want to run short cycles, use fast esters, test prop, and tren ace. This you can run for about 6 weeks and get ok results.
Read up on the esters pal, and you will see what we mean ;)
Peace
crfpilot14
04-30-2007, 06:17 AM
If a doctor told you to take a certain medication once a wk for 12wks would you stop it at 5wks? Nope...so extend the cycle to 12wks (10 for deca) and do a proper PCT and you will be good.
Martek
04-30-2007, 06:18 AM
well smart guy if you read the original post you would see that my pct includes clomid, nolv. and clenb
im looking for someone to tell me how to apparently save this cycle, not tell me to read more about pct
Okay smart guy, first off, we already said it.. YOU ARE USING THE WRONG GEAR IF YOU PLAN ON GOING ON A 5 WEEK CYCLE DAMNIT. THIS GEAR IS MEANT TO GO AT LEAST 10-12 WEEKS DUDE. LISTEN TO US AND GET MORE TO LAST THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU NEED OKAY? WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DONT WITNESS GOOD GEAR GOING TO WASTE
crfpilot14
04-30-2007, 06:25 AM
Okay smart guy, first off, we already said it.. YOU ARE USING THE WRONG GEAR IF YOU PLAN ON GOING ON A 5 WEEK CYCLE DAMNIT. THIS GEAR IS MEANT TO GO AT LEAST 10-12 WEEKS DUDE. LISTEN TO US AND GET MORE TO LAST THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU NEED OKAY? WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DONT WITNESS GOOD GEAR GOING TO WASTE
Proof right there that your join date has nothing to do with your ability to give good advice...even froma damn Canuck! Well, at least he lives in my home state during the winter! :D
iamyoulden
04-30-2007, 09:37 AM
aite then that's all i needed to know and thats why i asked
Martek
04-30-2007, 09:56 AM
aite then that's all i needed to know and thats why i asked
Okay good, make this easy on yourself thats all we are asking. Good luck with the new improved cycle we gave you. May the pinning be with you.
lola26
04-30-2007, 10:18 AM
smart guy, thanks!! you just boosted my ego a little.
Martek
04-30-2007, 02:03 PM
smart guy, thanks!! you just boosted my ego a little.
Alright get out of my spotlight this here be my light yer hear? :P lol. jk
SwoleTexasKid
05-01-2007, 12:57 AM
not at all, i've been reading for over 3 years but i just happen to be the only one in my area with any gear so im flying solo. not only that my fucking libido practically died for 2 months after my last cycle so i was trying to keep it short. i went from hero to zero with the ladies in nascar fashion.
anyway, i got 10cc dec. and 10cc test e so in order to not blow this shit, should i start with the test and then jump in with the dec. to extend the cycle at like week 3 or 4. cause i obviously dont have enough of both to have a full 10-12 week cycle
Holy shit bro, you have no idea what you are doing , do you?
Test E takes 5 weeks to kick in . Deca takes about 6 weeks to kick in.
A 5 week cycle of test E and Deca would yield absolutely nothing but a waste of money and time.
And if I read correctly, you are suggesting that you only run the test then extend it by only running the deca? Thats even more pointless! You need another 10ml of each to call it a cycle.
3 years of reading and you didnt know that those two were long-estered products?
Geez.
Martek
05-01-2007, 01:24 AM
Holy shit bro, you have no idea what you are doing , do you?
Test E takes 5 weeks to kick in . Deca takes about 6 weeks to kick in.
A 5 week cycle of test E and Deca would yield absolutely nothing but a waste of money and time.
And if I read correctly, you are suggesting that you only run the test then extend it by only running the deca? Thats even more pointless! You need another 10ml of each to call it a cycle.
3 years of reading and you didnt know that those two were long-estered products?
Geez.
*Slowly bumps that*
lola26
05-01-2007, 04:17 AM
glad someone else chimed in...
SwoleTexasKid
05-01-2007, 04:41 AM
Yeah oh trust me guys I would have been on this one from the beginning I just didnt find this for a little while.
Sometimes Im tempted to tell people, yeah, run test e for 5 weeks, then deca for the next 5 weeks, its a killer 10 week cycle! :eek: :D :eek:
Martek
05-01-2007, 07:38 AM
:D Yeah oh trust me guys I would have been on this one from the beginning I just didnt find this for a little while.
Sometimes Im tempted to tell people, yeah, run test e for 5 weeks, then deca for the next 5 weeks, its a killer 10 week cycle! :eek: :D :eek:
LOL! You DOG!! hahahahahahaha:D
bod1ggity
05-01-2007, 08:56 AM
People make things to complicated... I have done 6 weeks cycles but they were all short esters... Prop, Nandrelone Phynel, T Ace... ect. Its common sense however that if your useing long esters that you need to run a longer cycle, longer esters are less potent as well, so results should take longer, then theres the time it takes you really up your levels.
Im still confused about the 10-12 weeks cycles hurting your liver... how could anyone with 3 years research make a statement like that... I dont remember anyone telling him to Run Halotestin for 12 weeks... Kids these days.
jtat326
05-01-2007, 10:24 AM
I am the king bitch of telling people, watch out for liver issue. How someone could even think to say that on a test/deca cycle is beyond me. He must have read the same book on aas as arby. I think it goes something like this:
See dick do steroids. See dick grow. Grow, dick, grow.
Dick.
crfpilot14
05-01-2007, 04:01 PM
I am the king bitch of telling people, watch out for liver issue. How someone could even think to say that on a test/deca cycle is beyond me. He must have read the same book on aas as arby. I think it goes something like this:
See dick do steroids. See dick grow. Grow, dick, grow.
Dick.
LMAO....sounds like someone humped too many hills in the TVD. :cool: :D Or ate too many blueberry pancakes at Dahlonega. ;)
jtat326
05-01-2007, 09:21 PM
Dahlonega is the reason I live at sea level now.
crfpilot14
05-02-2007, 07:41 AM
Me too my friend.
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