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viper99
04-03-2007, 08:49 AM
Hi,

New to this forum,first post.

I want to do my first cycle with just Primo(Stealth)...I know it's weak but it's my first cycle and I'm only looking to add shape, loose some bf% and maybe add 5+ pounds of muscle.

Stats
Age: 31
6 "3
188lbs
15% bf

1. Is 12 weeks of just Primo ok or to short?

2. Do I have to taper up at first of cycle and then taper down at end of cycle? If so, would 200mg 1st week, then 300mg 2nd week until I get to my max of 400mg a week?

3. Will I need PCT with this 12 week only Primo cycle? If so what do you recommend?

Thanks in advance.

crfpilot14
04-03-2007, 08:59 AM
If those are your goals then you can get there much cheaper. Eat more protein and creatine, low carb diet and early morning cardio on an empty stomach...as well as weight training. :) No need for AAS to achieve your goals. Heck, you can get there inside of 2mos as well. No matter what AAS you use, your diet will be key to the cycle. Primo doesnt aromatize (okay very slightly) but it will shut down your HPTA...so yes, you will have to do PCT. Personally, I would go with a Testosterone based cycle. Oh yeah, you dont have to taper primo. I would do 600mg/wk...you will get the same, if not better results, with test 500mg/wk for cheaper...unless primo has gotten less expensive over the years.

viper99
04-03-2007, 09:13 AM
If those are your goals then you can get there much cheaper. Eat more protein and creatine, low carb diet and early morning cardio on an empty stomach...as well as weight training. :) No need for AAS to achieve your goals. Heck, you can get there inside of 2mos as well. No matter what AAS you use, your diet will be key to the cycle. Primo doesnt aromatize (okay very slightly) but it will shut down your HPTA...so yes, you will have to do PCT. Personally, I would go with a Testosterone based cycle. Oh yeah, you dont have to taper primo. I would do 600mg/wk...you will get the same, if not better results, with test 500mg/wk for cheaper...unless primo has gotten less expensive over the years.

crfpilot14, thanks for your reply.
I agree that I could probaly get there within a few months without aas, but I want to be there now. I was 224lbs with 30% bf 5 months ago...for first couple of months it was cardio 1st thing in the morning, ECA stack, light weights. Now for the past 2 months it's been 5 days a week with a trainer doing just weights, some cardio on my own.

Money is not a problem, so would you still recommend a Testosterone based cycle over a Primo cycle? remember this is my 1st cycle and I want it to be safe/clean as possible.

Thanks

crfpilot14
04-03-2007, 09:52 AM
Here is what I would do in your shoes...

Test Enanthate 500mg e5d wk1-10
Dbol 30mg ed wk1-5
arimidex 1mg ed wk1-5, then 0.5mg ed to start of PCT
HCG 500IU e7d wk1-12

PCT:
wk12 clomid 150mg ed, nolva 20mg twice daily
wk13 clomid 100mg ed, nolva 10mg twice daily
wk14 clomid 50mg ed, nolva 10mg twice daily

Maintain your current training regimen. Eat a moderate protein, low carb/fat diet. I would decrease the amount of cardio you do while on, but do not stop it all together. This cycle will net you a solid 10lbs and if you continue with your cutting diet/training, you will lose several % bf. You can start at 0.5mg daily of the arimidex while on the dbol, but if you notice some water retention/bloat, increase it to 1mg. Oh yeah, ed = every day and e5d = every 5 days. This is a great first cycle and you will be pleased with the results.

viper99
04-03-2007, 09:56 AM
Here is what I would do in your shoes...

Test Enanthate 500mg e5d wk1-10
Dbol 30mg ed wk1-5
arimidex 1mg ed wk1-5, then 0.5mg ed to start of PCT
HCG 500IU e7d wk1-12

PCT:
wk12 clomid 150mg ed, nolva 20mg twice daily
wk13 clomid 100mg ed, nolva 10mg twice daily
wk14 clomid 50mg ed, nolva 10mg twice daily

Maintain your current training regimen. Eat a moderate protein, low carb/fat diet. I would decrease the amount of cardio you do while on, but do not stop it all together. This cycle will net you a solid 10lbs and if you continue with your cutting diet/training, you will lose several % bf. You can start at 0.5mg daily of the arimidex while on the dbol, but if you notice some water retention/bloat, increase it to 1mg. Oh yeah, ed = every day and e5d = every 5 days. This is a great first cycle and you will be pleased with the results.

crfpilot14, thanks again.

I will start looking into that cycle and it's products.

bigpumpin37
04-03-2007, 09:59 AM
i gotta agree with crfpilot on this