equipoise+winny+trenabol

[lokomonkey]

hey guys! im planning my next one, and is a very short one, I'm not looking to gey bigger but stronger, harder, and quicker! (yup is for sports performance) anyways this is what I think:
winny (british dragon) 50mg ed X 7weeks (wks 1-7)
equipoise 200mg X 3 times a week (wks 1-8)
trenabol 75mg X3times a week (wks 5-8)

so I never used trenabol before but I read (a lot) that is great and looks like is what Im looking for..............

please give me your opinions, and sugestions, thanks a lot!

[mickeymbbc]

hey guys! im planning my next one, and is a very short one, I'm not looking to gey bigger but stronger, harder, and quicker! (yup is for sports performance) anyways this is what I think:
winny (british dragon) 50mg ed X 7weeks (wks 1-7)
equipoise 200mg X 3 times a week (wks 1-8)
trenabol 75mg X3times a week (wks 5-8)

so I never used trenabol before but I read (a lot) that is great and looks like is what Im looking for..............

please give me your opinions, and sugestions, thanks a lot!


Here ya go brutha, I am feeling really helpful today(lol)

wks 1 - 12 - 600mg equipose weekly

wks 5 - 12 - 300mg tren enanthate weekly or acetate, I am not sure what you are running.

wks 9 - 14 - 50mg winny ED ( oral )

wks 1 - 15 - 50mg proviron ED

PCT starts wk 16 - 18.


-mick

[mamaduke]

Here ya go brutha, I am feeling really helpful today(lol)

wks 1 - 12 - 600mg equipose weekly

wks 5 - 12 - 300mg tren enanthate weekly or acetate, I am not sure what you are running.

wks 9 - 14 - 50mg winny ED ( oral )

wks 1 - 15 - 50mg proviron ED

PCT starts wk 16 - 18.


-mick


I am gonna run your cycle in a few weeks. What would you suggest as a starter and at what dose. I want lean mass. Thinking about t-bol 50mg a day and d-bol 20mg (for strength and not much water at this dose) a day for the first 6 wks. Ran t-bol at begin of last cycle @ 50 mgs a day, with lean gains and little strenght. Has anyone combined d-bol and t-bol before?

[arnold jr]

hey guys! im planning my next one, and is a very short one, I'm not looking to gey bigger but stronger, harder, and quicker! (yup is for sports performance) anyways this is what I think:
winny (british dragon) 50mg ed X 7weeks (wks 1-7)
equipoise 200mg X 3 times a week (wks 1-8)
trenabol 75mg X3times a week (wks 5-8)

so I never used trenabol before but I read (a lot) that is great and looks like is what Im looking for..............

please give me your opinions, and sugestions, thanks a lot!
Add some test in there

[AnabolicAndre]

Here ya go brutha, I am feeling really helpful today(lol)

wks 1 - 12 - 600mg equipose weekly

wks 5 - 12 - 300mg tren enanthate weekly or acetate, I am not sure what you are running.

wks 9 - 14 - 50mg winny ED ( oral )

wks 1 - 15 - 50mg proviron ED

PCT starts wk 16 - 18.


-mick

What a horrendous idea.... first off you need test in there.. all those compounds WILL shut you down... second off, what are your stats tren is NOT a good beginner drug... 3rd Tren carries A LOT of sides..definitly go with acetate ester that way if you can not stand the sides its clear out of your body in 3DAYS as apposed to 2 WEEKS!

[AnabolicAndre]

and 3 weeks of PCT probably wont get you back to FULL SWING , I'd go for 4 weeks

[Kaiser]

In my opinion, it's mostly the wrong chemicals for what you want to do. How about lookin into Anavar and Primobolan. Granted Winny will lean you out also, but you will have a good chance of getting joint pain in which you have to make sure you drink a truck load of water each day. This might slow you down if it does cause pain. EQ, is not such a bad idea for what you want, but I would stick with the leaner Primo and stay away from the androgen (even though it is not that high, it is higher than Primo) that could esentially put water on you. Anavar, well, what can I say, one oof my old favorites. Anavar will make you strong and keep you lean. I think its the best performance oral ever made. Personally, I would stay away from Tren, Deca, and any other with high androgen unless I was building and stacked it with Test. Make a note that you will hold a little more water with Primo than Winny, but believe me you wont be bloated and you wont have Winny's joint pain.

[sTaTic]

What a horrendous idea.... first off you need test in there.. all those compounds WILL shut you down... second off, what are your stats tren is NOT a good beginner drug... 3rd Tren carries A LOT of sides..definitly go with acetate ester that way if you can not stand the sides its clear out of your body in 3DAYS as apposed to 2 WEEKS!


What??? First off you dont need test in every cycle you do. (I dont know where people get this from and if you havent read anything that i have posted, I speak from my own experience) Even adding test to it, it will still shut you down the same. Everything eventually does. Tren doesn't have as bad of sides that everyone claims. I actually have worst sides when doing straight test in a cycle so you can throw that one out of your argument.

Another point that someone made was about joint pain with winny. it happens but the eq will lessen that definately.

I'm not bitching so dont take offence to this post. I just have done many cycles with no test and adding proviron for libido solves all that ppl worry about when doing cycles with no test. sometimes I dont even use proviron and I have always been fine. Actually, I prefer no test because I hate the instant water weight loss when comming off a cycle using test... not to mention the sides that come along with "high levels" of test.

[Beetlejuice]

Okay first of all I just finished a 10 week cycle. People kept saying you'll get decca dick, that stuff will shut you down.

week 1-8 Sustanon 250 - 500 mg per week
week 1-5 Oral Tbol 50 mg ed
week 3-8 Decca Durabolin 500 mg per week
week 4-10 Winstrol by Denkall 50 mg ed
week 4-10 Tri Trenabol 300 mg per week.
week 2-10 Nolvadex 10 mg ed

I am in PCT right now and so far without HCG and nop scialis, I havn't lost a step. As far as test goes, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE IT TO BUILD A GOOD CYCLE. Period end of story. I am tired of all the Test Nazis. When you build a cycle using Tren you don't need test. Tren is a very nice base if you can handle the sides. It is well known for ripping up and there is absolutely nothing better than Tren and winny for that. The cycle looks good. I am gonna run something like it late spring early summer. You might tweak your dosage though. Mickey might be the guy to ask on that.


What a horrendous idea.... first off you need test in there.. all those compounds WILL shut you down... second off, what are your stats tren is NOT a good beginner drug... 3rd Tren carries A LOT of sides..definitly go with acetate ester that way if you can not stand the sides its clear out of your body in 3DAYS as apposed to 2 WEEKS!

[arnold jr]

Okay first of all I just finished a 10 week cycle. People

As far as test goes, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE IT TO BUILD A GOOD CYCLE. Period end of story. I am tired of all the Test Nazis. the guy to ask on that.
Maybe you can have a successful cycle without test, I'm not arguing that, but in my mind you are still better off adding it in every cycle.

Test is something that are bodies are already use to having in it, it is something that is already naturally produced... true, not in the amounts taken during a cycle, but it is still more used to having test flow through the body then some of the other compounds.

Also, nothing builds quality muscle or helps preserve it in a diet like test does, absolutely nothing... that is just the plain truth.

[mickeymbbc]

What a horrendous idea.... first off you need test in there.. all those compounds WILL shut you down... second off, what are your stats tren is NOT a good beginner drug... 3rd Tren carries A LOT of sides..definitly go with acetate ester that way if you can not stand the sides its clear out of your body in 3DAYS as apposed to 2 WEEKS!

Not a great way to start off a relationship on this board brutha, use a little tact next time. I do not mind oppinions, its nice to hear other opinions in this world, it gives you friut for thinking and Ideas. As long as your oppinions are from true exp@#!@ If they are you would know that you DO NOT NEED TEST IN EVERY CYCLE TO SUCEED. ALL THAT SH!@T THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS EITHER READ OR OVER RATED TALK. PLEASE!!! MIND YOUR MANNERS........

PS. THANKS bettlejuice...and Static for the comments that you made.



-mick

[Kaiser]

Not sure if you guys agree, but I think we all missed a little on this one. I dont see in any of the posts (including mine) anyone asking his size, shape, health and mainly age. Also has he had any sexual disfunction problems in the past. I think these should be the foundation of what is prescribed along with functionality which he did list. I also think this should be asked on every cycle recommended. Especially, when there are a number of ways to skin a cat that these questions would allow for better tailoring. Maybe we should make it mandatory or post a sticky on the subject. Also, I am sure you guys can think of some other mandatory questions to add to the list. Just a thought, and I am not downing anyone. You all have helped me out in the past with excellent information.

[Beetlejuice]

NP Mickey,
You give sound advice. I have always told you that. I wasn't meaning to rip the guy either! It just seems a knee jerk reaction to some people to demand you add test to a perfectly good cycle. I just know like you that test while a great tool, isn't always needed for the job at hand. You keep up the good works Brutha, your one of the reasons this is a good board.

Not a great way to start off a relationship on this board brutha, use a little tact next time. I do not mind oppinions, its nice to hear other opinions in this world, it gives you friut for thinking and Ideas. As long as your oppinions are from true exp@#!@ If they are you would know that you DO NOT NEED TEST IN EVERY CYCLE TO SUCEED. ALL THAT SH!@T THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS EITHER READ OR OVER RATED TALK. PLEASE!!! MIND YOUR MANNERS........

PS. THANKS bettlejuice...and Static for the comments that you made.



-mick

[mickeymbbc]

NP Mickey,
You give sound advice. I have always told you that. I wasn't meaning to rip the guy either! It just seems a knee jerk reaction to some people to demand you add test to a perfectly good cycle. I just know like you that test while a great tool, isn't always needed for the job at hand. You keep up the good works Brutha, your one of the reasons this is a good board.


THANKS JUICE :D



-MICK

[lokomonkey]

wow! wasnt my intention to disturb anybody, here is my stats, been an athlete for over 20 years 10 of them professional, (muay thai fighter) now retired but still in shape, 40 y/o and never had a sexual problem (besides being horny all the time, may be thats why I dont want test) i just want to improve my muscle quality, (not to get bigger) and stay stronger......any input?

[Tyrone]

I will always like Anavar for the gains you have mentioned. I kept the strength I gained and was in way better shape. It is just expensive. WHY DOES ANAVAR HAVE TO BE SO EXPENSIVE? I LOVE IT.

[Kaiser]

I will always like Anavar for the gains you have mentioned. I kept the strength I gained and was in way better shape. It is just expensive. WHY DOES ANAVAR HAVE TO BE SO EXPENSIVE? I LOVE IT.

Probably because Searle, the original, took it off the market in later half of 89 or early 90 if I remember correctly. I am not sure when the other pharm companies (European) brought it back, I think maybe later than 97 but not sure, calling it just Oxandrolone. The originals were not really that expensive around here in NJ, USA back in 89-90 when I first used it. But once they stopped making it, it went through the roof. When the other companies started to make it again, it basically stayed the same price. Kind of like friggin' gas prices right now. It is also one of the oldest AAS out there.

[mickeymbbc]

Probably because Searle, the original, took it off the market in later half of 89 or early 90 if I remember correctly. I am not sure when the other pharm companies (European) brought it back, I think maybe later than 97 but not sure, calling it just Oxandrolone. The originals were not really that expensive around here in NJ, USA back in 89-90 when I first used it. But once they stopped making it, it went through the roof. When the other companies started to make it again, it basically stayed the same price. Kind of like friggin' gas prices right now. It is also one of the oldest AAS out there.


I think that you are correct on that brutha. As far as the price is concerned, there are many reasons for it being high priced. Hell, it goes as far back as Ben Johnson when he won all those Gold metals and got busted from the IOC. Back then Furzabol was very famous too, because it was in and out of your system is a matter of 2 or 3 weeks(not detectable at all) which made it easier to pass all those drug tests. Anyway, talking about all that shits makes me feel old. :D JUST MY 2 CENTS.


-MICK