Parabolan and Enanthate!!! Need an experts advice!

[cnepp]

Now that you're here, please critique and add any suggestions about the Parabolan.

Experience:
-21 yrs old
-7 yrs of training
-6'1''
-225 lbs
-College athlete

10 Week Cycle:
1-10: Parabolan @ 300 mg a week, split into two injections.
1-10: Test Enanthate @ 666 mg a week, split into two injections.

You may be wondering why 666 (weird number) - because that is how the amps are (333 mg per amp).

What kind of sides should I be expecting from the Tren Hex (Parabolan), other than night sweats and insomnia..

Also, would you reccomend replacing the Test Enanthate with another AAS, Equipoise or something else? Thanks!

-Cheers

[Rhandhular]

If You have never used parabolan I would go with 75ml every 3rd Day.Be prepared for many restless nights. I have a hard time sleeping at 75 ml every 3rd day so I imagine 150ml twice a week would be even rougher. The test seems fine.

[jstforme]

you dont get tested at school for gear?

[tsunami]

what type of tren are you going to run? acetate, enanthate, hex?

[cnepp]

you dont get tested at school for gear?

Division II, not very likely. Thanks for the replies - I've decided on Test, EQ and Dianabol.

[Milky87]

what type of tren are you going to run? acetate, enanthate, hex?
He listed parabolan which is naturally benxylcarbonate

[cnepp]

Yeah, it's the HEX - the longest Tren Ester, I beleive. Thanks for the help guys, although I've decided that Tren is a little much for a first cycle, ED injections and all.

[Beetlejuice]

Sorry but the longest ester is tren Enanthate. It will linger in your system as long as 14 days. If you want fewer injections tren E is the way to go. There are in general less sides with tren E than the others also. It is known for being milder on your lungs especially. Tren A has been shown to cause lung scarring.

[arnold jr]

It is known for being milder on your lungs especially. Tren A has been shown to cause lung scarring.
Really, I didn't know that. What is it about tren-a that can cause this?

[Beetlejuice]

From what I understand it has been said to cause lung scarring for years. what I was able to glean over the last few months is the tren acetate may be the worse of all. I will say there really isn't any substantial evidence other than a few long term (heavy tren users) who claim to have had lung scarring show up in they're lungs for no apparent reason. To be honest one of the worst side effects I know of from Tren is high blood pressure. I keep hearing about lung scarring though.

[Beetlejuice]

By the way I wanna correct myself in regards to the longest lasting ester. You guys are right tren hex should be the longest lasting tren ester available. Tren E would be the strongest Tren ester per mg available. 1 mg of tren should be theoretically stronger than 1 mg of either of the other two esters.
That is straight from British Dragon though. Here is something for you to read though that might help you guys with Tren. This was posted on another board by a guy named Bask8case (he doesnt nessacarily agree with me though)..........


Here's a little info from Bask8case

The many faces (names) of Tren: ENDING THE CONFUSION

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I have been reading about Tren and have found wide spread confusion about it mainly because when one writes "Tren," s/he could be referring to at least 5 different compounds:

1. Trenbolone Acetate--injectable version (Finaject and Finajet)
2. Trenbolone Acetate--pellet form (Finaplix)
3. Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (called Parabolan by Bill Roberts)
4. Trenbolone Hexahydrobencylcarbonate (called Parabolan on this board and several others)
5. Trenbolone Enanthate

The many names of tren have confused many people. I've seen VETs and MODs and MEMBERs of several boards (not just this one) equate one tren compound with another, not knowing that one is actually not equivalent to the other. One common mistake I see is calling Trenbolone Hexahydrobencylcarbonate "Tren Enanthate." They are similar, but not the same (see below). I also have seen people refer to Tren Acetate as Parabolan--wrong!

So, let's clear this up.

The following is a brief summary of the main differences of each that I have created in order to clear up my own confusion on tren and hopefully help others here in the process. It is not meant to provide a detailed description of Tren activity in the body.

1. Trenbolone Acetate--injectable version (Finaject and Finajet)
This is correctly referred to as "Fina." Finaject is the acetate form of trenbolone. It was produced in a short acting ester (acetate), so its effect lasts only a short time and frequent administration is necessary. Finaject was an injectable steroid of veterinary medicine, which was extremely popular in bodybuilding and powerlifting during the 1980's. The injectible Trenbolone Acetate called Finaject is no longer produced.

(Refer to the end of this post for a discussion of Esters)

2. Trenbolone Acetate--pellet form (Finaplix)
Finaplix was a veterinary cattle implant, which contained the potent androgenic steroid Trenbolone Acetate. Once Finaject and Finajet were nolonger manufactured, bodybuilders began using Finaplix to make topical or injectible versions of Trenbolone Acetate.

Today, cattle implants have become designer products with varied doses and combinations of estrogenic and/or androgenic (trenbolone) agents. So, the process of converting cattle implants to useful versions of trenbolone acetate has become more dificult since one must separate the trenbolone from the other additives present in the cattle implants before using it.

3. Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (called Parabolan by Bill Roberts)
Parabolan contains a much different ester than Finaject and Finajet, called Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate. This ester extends the activity of trenbolone for more than two weeks, a more suitable design for human use.

The amount of trenbolone in 76 mg of Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate is equivalent to the amount of trenbolone in only 58 mg of Trenbolone Acetate. The acetate is a little more potent, more effective per milligram, because the acetate ester is lighter than the cyclohexylmethylcarbonate ester; therefore a higher percentage of the weight of Trenbolone Acetate is trenbolone. A similar comparison also can be made with the other long lasting esters of trenbolone: enanthate and hexahydrobenzylcarbonate.

The muscle building properties of Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate are the same as Trenbolone Acetate (Finaject or Finajet) except for the longer half-life.

Although it is very similar, this compound is NOT the same as Trenbolone Enanthate. The only difference in these compounds is the esters (see ester definitions below), which all act almost identically (long lasting esters).

4. Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (called Parabolan on this board and some others)
NOTE: At the time of this post this compound name was spelled wrong (hexahydrobencylcarbonate) in the steroid profiles. The correct spelling is listed above.
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate and Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate are exatly the same substances. Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester is just another name for cyclohexylmethylcarbonate ester.

5. Trenbolone Enanthate
Although it is very similar, this compound is NOT the same as Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate). The only difference in these compounds is the esters (see ester definitions below).


THE DIFFERNCE BETWEEN THE ESTERS

The most important difference between the esters is wheter it is a short acting ester or a long lasting ester. The next most important difference is the weight of the ester. As mentioned under the Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate section (above), the relative potency of each ester of trenbolone is parially dependent on the weight of its ester.

The main difference between different esters is simply the number of carbon atoms in the ester. Propionate has three carbons, acetate has two, isobutyrate has four, enanthate has seven, cypionate has eight, and decanoate has ten. More unusual esters, such as cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (used in Parabolan) has eight carbons and one more oxygen than the above esters making it the heaviest.

Therefore, the esters of trenbolone in order of potency when compared miligram to miligram (from most potent to least):
1. Tren Acetate
2. Tren Enanthate
3. Tren Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (Tren Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate)

The differences in potency caused by the esters are negligible. So, you should base your choice of Tren on how frequently you plan to inject, how much you trust your supplier, and how much you trust the brand of tren you purchase.

If you are concerned about the possible side effects of tren, and don't mind frequent injections, then consider using Trenbolone Acetate. If bad side effects manifest, Tren Acetate will quickly leave your body after the last injection due to the short acting ester (acetate); and your body will be able to begin to recover quickly. On the contrary, your recovery from bad side effects won't begin until 2 weeks after the last injection of a long lasting ester of tren because a long lasting ester of tren will stay active in your body for more than two weeks after your last injection--continuing to contribute to the bad side effects.

[mickeymbbc]

Interesting@#!




-mick