New Cycle

[arnold jr]

This cycle is longer than what I would typicaly do, but still, want to give this a shot at least once.

wk 1-30 Sust250 1000mg ew
wk 1-16 Deca 600mg ew
wk 15-20 Tren-A 75mg eod
wk 17-24 Winstrol 50mg ed
wk 25-32 Halotestin 40mg ed
wk 28-33 T-3 25-100mcg ed
wk 31-33 Tren-A 75mg ed
wk 31-33 Prop 1000mg ew
wk 33 masteron 100mg ed

wk 1-33 HCG 500iu e5d
wk 1-16 arimidex 1mg ed
wk 17-33 Arimidex 1mg eod
wk 17-33 clen 40-120mcg ed 2wk on 2wk off

wk 34-??? PCT (Not set on duration of PCT yet, usually only run it 3 wks may bump it up to 4 this time)

If any of you see any mistakes that I have made in this cycle let me know, as well as any suggestions.

I had actually thought about adding in some EQ at around wk 17, but I think I’ve e got enough to deal with here already without adding in anything else. The reason for the change is dosage of the arimidex is because while on deca I just do better with 1mg ed, but without the deca, I believe I can get by with splitting that dose.

[BigO]

Lower the deca to 400 add eq/ at 600 and add d-bol in the begining...

Keep proviron or nolva on hand but arm. may be the ticket for ya...It will help with the bloating

Save the winny/tren/prop for the end.. masteron to short and so is your winny /tren prop...this should be for a minimum 6 weeks...winny should be injectable and you can add halotestin or masteron with it...I hope you have experience and lots of it...Hcg would be good while on this part of your cycle.

Hcg 4 weeks at a time...better offf when your using tren...

Armidex mix with your test as you said

Remember rule of thumb is change your gear and cycle every 12 weeks for maximum results.....

I like clomid for my pct usually 2 weeks after your last injection but if you run prop you can start it almost immediatley....Nolva wouldn't be a bad idea just in case...

[arnold jr]

Lower the deca to 400 add eq/ at 600 and add d-bol in the begining...

Keep proviron or nolva on hand but arm. may be the ticket for ya...It will help with the bloating

Save the winny/tren/prop for the end.. masteron to short and so is your winny /tren prop...this should be for a minimum 6 weeks...winny should be injectable and you can add halotestin or masteron with it...I hope you have experience and lots of it...Hcg would be good while on this part of your cycle.

Hcg 4 weeks at a time...better offf when your using tren...

Armidex mix with your test as you said

Remember rule of thumb is change your gear and cycle every 12 weeks for maximum results.....

I like clomid for my pct usually 2 weeks after your last injection but if you run prop you can start it almost immediatley....Nolva wouldn't be a bad idea just in case...
Appreciate the reply

What's the reasoning for lowering the deca dose?

I don't use dbol because I respond poorly to it in terms of sides. It makes me feel very lethargic, and it bloats me more than I am comfortable with.

I had thought about adding EQ after the deca, what would you recommend?

I always keep nolva and Provo on hand, but usually don't need it, adex usually does the trick.

You would run the winny more than 8wks?

Are you saying to run the winny and tren simultaneously, instead of separate like I have it?

Last off, I don't understand your comment on HCG 4wks at a time?

Again appreciate the input!

[mickeymbbc]

This cycle is longer than what I would typicaly do, but still, want to give this a shot at least once.

wk 1-30 Sust250 1000mg ew
wk 1-16 Deca 600mg ew
wk 15-20 Tren-A 75mg eod
wk 17-24 Winstrol 50mg ed
wk 25-32 Halotestin 40mg ed
wk 28-33 T-3 25-100mcg ed
wk 31-33 Tren-A 75mg ed
wk 31-33 Prop 1000mg ew
wk 33 masteron 100mg ed

wk 1-33 HCG 500iu e5d
wk 1-16 arimidex 1mg ed
wk 17-33 Arimidex 1mg eod
wk 17-33 clen 40-120mcg ed 2wk on 2wk off

wk 34-??? PCT (Not set on duration of PCT yet, usually only run it 3 wks may bump it up to 4 this time)

If any of you see any mistakes that I have made in this cycle let me know, as well as any suggestions.

I had actually thought about adding in some EQ at around wk 17, but I think I’ve e got enough to deal with here already without adding in anything else. The reason for the change is dosage of the arimidex is because while on deca I just do better with 1mg ed, but without the deca, I believe I can get by with splitting that dose.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENCE AT ALL BRUTHA(NO OFFENCE)



-MICK

[arnold jr]

THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENCE AT ALL BRUTHA(NO OFFENCE)



-MICK
None taken, but what is not making sence?

[mickeymbbc]

The whole thing!! BigO made a couple comments that made sence, but most the things you are running do not coincide with one another like they should. In addition, do not see the positive of running gear that long unless you are compteing, or are on HRT. Even with competing, we do not run that long sometimes, even though we mix it up a bit. Anyway, good luck with your cycle brutha


-mick

[jstforme]

None taken, but what is not making sence?

what are you trying to get out of this cycle? looks like your trying to do a serious mass bulker cycle but then your throwing in a cutter at the end. i dont advise this at all. you need to lower your doses!! one of the advantages to "stacking" is you can use less amount of each product and have great results.

[arnold jr]

The whole thing!! BigO made a couple comments that made sence, but most the things you are running do not coincide with one another like they should. In addition, do not see the positive of running gear that long unless you are compteing, or are on HRT. Even with competing, we do not run that long sometimes, even though we mix it up a bit. Anyway, good luck with your cycle brutha


-mick
If this was your cycle how would you run it? And yes it is in prep for competition.

I have changed a few things around however:

When I typed it out originally I accidentally put the tren and winny in the wrong spots. The winny will be run with the deca the last 8wks of deca use, then the tren. I will also drop the tren I added in the end of cycle and just finish out with the Halo and masteron.

Also, I have decided to only run sust the first 4wks, and then I will add in the deca. The first 4wks of sust will be more than enough to get things rolling.

Something else I've considered is bridging the two pahses of the cycle with a short break, say 4-6 wks of test only. But, I'm wondering if this would be benificial in anyway...more than likely won't do this.

To provide a bit more info, I will be getting blood work done regularly through the cycle, once before (just had this done) once in the middle and at the end. I will keep a close eye on my liver enzymes as well, and will take, tationil (reduced glutathione). 200mg IM every 4 weeks through the cycle may afford protection. Other non-AAS supplements include: Vanadyl Sulfate, Chromium Picolinate, Potassium, Vit C, Vit E, Calcium, and multi Vit


I almost never advocate cycles this long myself, I almost always keep them in the 16 wk range, sometimes I'll run it 20wks with the last 4 being test only. I've had some good success with the longer cycles, much better than the 8-12wk cycles.

So bust my balls and beat me down if necessary, I don't mind it a bit. I want all the input I can get on this one.

[mickeymbbc]

If this was your cycle how would you run it? And yes it is in prep for competition.

I have changed a few things around however:

When I typed it out originally I accidentally put the tren and winny in the wrong spots. The winny will be run with the deca the last 8wks of deca use, then the tren. I will also drop the tren I added in the end of cycle and just finish out with the Halo and masteron.

Also, I have decided to only run sust the first 4wks, and then I will add in the deca. The first 4wks of sust will be more than enough to get things rolling.

Something else I've considered is bridging the two pahses of the cycle with a short break, say 4-6 wks of test only. But, I'm wondering if this would be benificial in anyway...more than likely won't do this.

To provide a bit more info, I will be getting blood work done regularly through the cycle, once before (just had this done) once in the middle and at the end. I will keep a close eye on my liver enzymes as well, and will take, tationil (reduced glutathione). 200mg IM every 4 weeks through the cycle may afford protection. Other non-AAS supplements include: Vanadyl Sulfate, Chromium Picolinate, Potassium, Vit C, Vit E, Calcium, and multi Vit


I almost never advocate cycles this long myself, I almost always keep them in the 16 wk range, sometimes I'll run it 20wks with the last 4 being test only. I've had some good success with the longer cycles, much better than the 8-12wk cycles.

So bust my balls and beat me down if necessary, I don't mind it a bit. I want all the input I can get on this one.

Well I will definately not bust your balls, Because everone knows that I am not like that. I try not to be criticle at all, even though I am not perfect. Post some pictures up, I would be great to see another fello competitor. Just from how you write it shows me that you did your share of reading(which is good) You were stating that you might bridge with test around mid cycle, I am a little confussed@#! IF YOU USE TEST, THAT IS NOT BRIDGING.(YOU ARE STILL TECHNIQLY ON) I am sorry, I can not critique that cycle because I wouldn't run it. I will show you a little bit of how I run certain cycles though. NOW THIS IS JUST SKIMMING THE CEILING, SO DO NOT TAKE THIS LITERALLY. IF I TOLD YOU MY SECRETS, THAN THEY WOULDN'T BE SECRETS WOULD THEY:)

Weeks 1-10 - 600mg Equipoise/week
Weeks 1-10 - 1200mg Test Enanthate or Test Cypionate a week
Weeks 1-4 - 80mgs of Dianabol every day
Weeks 11-16 150mgs of Test Prop every day
Weeks 11-16 100mgs of Trenbolone Acetate everyday
Weeks 11-16 200mgs of Drostanolone Propionate everyday
Weeks 14-16 50mgs of Winstrol 2x a day(AM and PM)


Again, this is just a rough example, so don't take this literally. I do not want you thinking the wrong things.



=-MICK