Question about Deca/Eq

[SwoleTexasKid]

How long from the first injection at 400 mg/week of equipoise until it is released into your muscles and you get/see results from it?

With Deca?

The reason I ask this is because there was a thread lately which said that they took as long As Test E / week 5 and they wouldnt do much if only using for 5 weeks at a time. I have 2 shots left in the BD Eq vial Im stacking with sustanon, and I have some more stealth eq on the way, but Im afraid customs got it at this point because of the amount of time its taking on my registered order. I plan because of this to run some deca I have after 5 weeks of eq and then if the package comes in later, ill add the eq later.

This is how I did it on my last cycle, I used test the whole time, but went with eq for 5 weeks, deca for 5 weeks, then back to eq for 5 weeks.

Any comments or advice about this guys?:confused:

[madmike925]

eq and deca are very simular running them both at only 5 weeks your not going to get the most from the gear both eq and deca take 4-5 weeks to kick in but is worth the wait

Me I love eq but hate deca but love npp

My current cycle is

test e 500 mgs ew

npp 300 mgs ew

Eq 400 mgs ew

igf 50 mcg pwd weeks 1-4, 8-12

whole cycle is 12 weeks long plus pct wich I will add igf in as well:cool:

[SwoleTexasKid]

Damn it all < I hope this package comes in so I can run my eq 10 weeks instead of 5 in that case!

I really wish I would have known this on my last cycle, I could have run eq for 10 weeks straight.

Im gonna have enough deca to run that for about 8 weeks though so that whould work out nice, eh?

[SwoleTexasKid]

Can anyone else confirm this??

[JW]

It's an odd stack. Yes, I can confirm though-longer will do you a lot more good.

[jtat326]

For me, I have to run EQ long, 12-14 weeks, as opposed to deca, 8-10 wks. They both have their pros and cons. With EQ I have increased appetite which helps me grow, but the longer cycles are more expensive. With deca I seem to "keep" more of what I gain and get great strength increases, but sides (deca dick, gyno) are more of an issue than with EQ. Either way run test for two weeks longer, esp with deca. The best advice I can give you is never start a cycle until you have everything you need including anti e's in your hot little hands. Otherwise by having to sub or cut a cycle short you're not maximizing the growth potential of each cycle.

[SwoleTexasKid]

Yeah I hear that. It sucks, the package still is not here, so I am going to have to run eq for 5 weeks and deca for 7, which is too short to run both of them. And when the 10ml of stealth eq gets resent or finally shows up (Havent gotten a notice yet), well whoopdie fuckin doo, I have another 5 weeks worth , completely useless.

I just hope the rest of my postcards get through, I have dbol, supertest, winny, and Tren enanthate on the way, and Ive ordered plenty of both of those to run each for 10 weeks, I have enough dbol on the way to run for much longer than that. The winny/tren should cut me up nicely hopefully, which will make up for the short periods of eq and deca.

Well, atleast I have learned from this situation I am in and now know to run deca and eq for longer periods of time. I have never had a registered package take this long, I just assumed stealth would get through easy since its supposedly "stealth" Even with the way I stacked the gear all wierd (look at first message in thread) in my first cycle, I still gained around 30 pounds and kept over 20

Patience IS a virtue, a virtue I do not possess

[ufc13]

cycle looks good to me...not too much but just enough

eq and deca are very simular running them both at only 5 weeks your not going to get the most from the gear both eq and deca take 4-5 weeks to kick in but is worth the wait

Me I love eq but hate deca but love npp

My current cycle is

test e 500 mgs ew

npp 300 mgs ew

Eq 400 mgs ew

igf 50 mcg pwd weeks 1-4, 8-12

whole cycle is 12 weeks long plus pct wich I will add igf in as well:cool:

[Illuminati02]

OK here's my question to this for anyone who can answer. I know that DECA/EQ/TEST etc all take 4-5 weeks to kick in. heres the thing i have a

10ml 250mg/ml of BD DECA-Durabolin (nandrolone decanoate) and that will probly run me for about 8wks on 400mgs a wk

also i got 5ml of 100mg/ml of BD Durabol (Nandrolone Phenylpropionate) and that i would probly run at 50-100mgs a wk

OK if i run the deca for the 7-8wks it will have kicked in i believe but i wont have enought to go for 10wks as id like to. If i use the Durabol for the last 2wks wk 9-10 will it start right were the deca left off? Or is the Dur gonna take a whole other 4-5 wks to kick in. The reason I ask this is because they are both Nandrolone composites.

[JW]

The short answer is it's fast acting so yes, just add it. When you want it.

You can use it because the drugs don't "kick in." They take a while to "work" when you use long acting products because your plasma levels have to get to a certain level before you see or feel noticeable results. If you front load (Take more drugs in the beginning) you will find they 'kick in' in a few days.

That said, your plasma levels will be high thanks to the cycle and it would be effective to take a short or fast acting drug at that point.

[Juggernaut2022]

The short answer is it's fast acting so yes, just add it. When you want it.

You can use it because the drugs don't "kick in." They take a while to "work" when you use long acting products because your plasma levels have to get to a certain level before you see or feel noticeable results. If you front load (Take more drugs in the beginning) you will find they 'kick in' in a few days.

That said, your plasma levels will be high thanks to the cycle and it would be effective to take a short or fast acting drug at that point.

Hey JW did you read that book called Chemical muscle enhancemet 2? and if so is that a good book to read?

[JW]

No, to be honest with you I haven't kept up on the steroid books. I think The War 1996 and Anabolics 2000 were the last I read. I did by a book by Christian Thib & Anthony Roberts (The Jekyl & Hide one)-I was dissapointed with the drug stuff-it was basic & I felt like I could have gotten the info for free on the net. If there is a book that is well written and actually has a lot of new info or at least techniques I would give it a read...

[jtat326]

I'm not a big believer in front loading, mainly because regardless of how much you do the length of the ester is going to determine how quickly it's available for use. I know this is overstating it, and I understand that by doing a higher dose more is available at a shorter time, but I don't think the week or so benefit of blood serum levels outweighs the expense. In the end you're still going to have the same results, at a lower cost, and with out running the risk of receptor saturation. That said I would prob recommend a milder oral for about 5 weeks. I've had fantastic results kick starting with OT. Good strength and size gains with minimal bloat.

[JW]

Well if you do it with something like Sust or another long ester that aslo has Prope in it-that is were you will see the best results....

[jtat326]

Well if you do it with something like Sust or another long ester that aslo has Prope in it-that is were you will see the best results....

Makes sense.

[Illuminati02]

Are you refering to what I asked JW?


The short answer is it's fast acting so yes, just add it. When you want it.

You can use it because the drugs don't "kick in." They take a while to "work" when you use long acting products because your plasma levels have to get to a certain level before you see or feel noticeable results. If you front load (Take more drugs in the beginning) you will find they 'kick in' in a few days.

That said, your plasma levels will be high thanks to the cycle and it would be effective to take a short or fast acting drug at that point.

[jtat326]

Are you refering to what I asked JW?

I was refering to his advice to front load. It made sense that on a blended compound with both short and long chains frontloading would be beneficial to get total serum levels up quickly, due to the shorter esters fast availability. I've never really believed in front loading but with that explanation I may try it next time I run Sust.

[JW]

Are you refering to what I asked JW?

Yes, I didn't quote it because it was right after your post...

[Illuminati02]

Ok cool, thanks JW just wasn't sure if you were or weren't talking about my question. appreciate the help man.

[fr8lnr01]

Would it not make sense to use the phenylpropianate in conjunction with the deconate for the first four weeks of the cycle while waiting for the deconate to become active.

[JW]

That certainly could make sense-it just depends on how he wants to stretch the cycle out.

[bigpumpin37]

Yeah I hear that. It sucks, the package still is not here, so I am going to have to run eq for 5 weeks and deca for 7, which is too short to run both of them. And when the 10ml of stealth eq gets resent or finally shows up (Havent gotten a notice yet), well whoopdie fuckin doo, I have another 5 weeks worth , completely useless.

I just hope the rest of my postcards get through, I have dbol, supertest, winny, and Tren enanthate on the way, and Ive ordered plenty of both of those to run each for 10 weeks, I have enough dbol on the way to run for much longer than that. The winny/tren should cut me up nicely hopefully, which will make up for the short periods of eq and deca.

Well, atleast I have learned from this situation I am in and now know to run deca and eq for longer periods of time. I have never had a registered package take this long, I just assumed stealth would get through easy since its supposedly "stealth" Even with the way I stacked the gear all wierd (look at first message in thread) in my first cycle, I still gained around 30 pounds and kept over 20

Patience IS a virtue, a virtue I do not possess

did your stealth ever come in? i seen mine and the packaging as frikin great, i doubt it got nabbed but never know

[SwoleTexasKid]

Fuck no dude! And get this Pump-- Im completely out of equipoise, I have one shot left, and Im gonna split it in two and only inject 100mg at a time for this week just to give the postcard another week to come in. I should have waited , I know , but this is ridiculous, it has never taken more than 10 days and now its 3 weeks to the day and no sign of my registered package! :(

On the upside, no letter from customs, either. Ive never had a package nabbed.

[madmike925]

I just got a e mail from michaela and they said that have had some delays with shipping.

[SwoleTexasKid]

Yeah MadMike, I did too because of the double holiday thing on my newest order. But this was on a previous postcard shipped out of Europe on the 23rd of february, I have the tracking number and all.

[TRthrasher]

Hey, I guess im the new guy.

Im 28years old, 6ft, and 215 lbs. I've been working out for a good 10 years
and have a prity good bass going.

Ive never used gear before so im new at this stuff. (and i cant type for shit)
I placed an order a week ago. I did a lot of research and thought
test E , deca, and masteron would be good for a first cycle.

400mgs test e, ew for 12weeks
300mgs deca, ew for first 6 weeks
300mgs mast, ew for last 6 weeks

does this look good


Also, what days to inj on.
And is 6-oxo worth trying

THANKS....

[madmike925]

400mgs test e, ew for 12weeks
300mgs deca, ew for first 6 weeks
300mgs mast, ew for last 6 weeks

does this look good


Also, what days to inj on.
And is 6-oxo worth trying

THANKS....[/QUOTE]

I would run it like this

500mgs test e ew for 12 weeks
400mgs deca ew for 8 weeks
300mgs mast ew for 10 weeks

Inject any day so long as it's twice a week:cool:

[TRthrasher]

Thanks madmike for the input. Will take all i can get

I shur am exited about this.
just want to do this right. I hate throwing away money

[jtat326]

Bump mad mikes advice. You can even bump the deca up to 10 wks as long as you're running the test for 12. You may want to run adex .50 ed in case of sides but definitely have extra nolva on hand in case of gyno issues. Remember even though deca doesn't convert to estrogen it is a progest. Also I think Masteron is a 3x wk shot. I wouldn't nec. use it on a 1st cycle. The deca/test should give you great gains, and I'm a believer that running Mast just as an anti-e is a waste. Save it for another cycle and if your diet and exercise is on point you'll grow like a weed.

[madmike925]

Bump mad mikes advice. You can even bump the deca up to 10 wks as long as you're running the test for 12. You may want to run adex .50 ed in case of sides but definitely have extra nolva on hand in case of gyno issues. Remember even though deca doesn't convert to estrogen it is a progest. Also I think Masteron is a 3x wk shot. I wouldn't nec. use it on a 1st cycle. The deca/test should give you great gains, and I'm a believer that running Mast just as an anti-e is a waste. Save it for another cycle and if your diet and exercise is on point you'll grow like a weed.

well put bud

Diet is a must if you want to get the most out of your gear