BIG Ball Shoulders

[bigpumpin37]

i do all different workouts as is on my shoulders but i just want some really big ball shaped shoulders, what would be the best workout for that???

[Juggernaut2022]

the key to a good workout is in the hands. Masterbation. lol jk:D

well bro i dont know. i have always liked military shoulder press and behind the back shoulder press. they seem to work for me. maybe try those out along with some lat raises. :) try doing some push press. those are fun

[Cardfan]

Delts are comparitively a small muscle group. It's way easy to overtrain 'em. Db shoulder presses seem to work best for me followed by side and rear lateral raises. Just don't overdo it, and forget that front raise. Plenty of stimulation for those on chest day.

[tatteredxangelx]

workout your fork

[JILANI]

I like doing behind the back laterals, these will give you more separation between the delts and upper arm, you dan also try lying side laterals:)

[jstforme]

I like doing behind the back laterals, these will give you more separation between the delts and upper arm, you dan also try lying side laterals:)

is behind the back laterals the same as rear laterals? i think some of it has to do with genetics too, if you have naturaly broad shoulders it seems that you have more "area" to work with compared to those with narrow shoulders. i have a friend who never has worked out before but thinks his traps are just so huge, i try to tell him its not his traps, its just that he has no shoulders, his neck just flows into his arms lol.

[bigpumpin37]

is behind the back laterals the same as rear laterals? i think some of it has to do with genetics too, if you have naturaly broad shoulders it seems that you have more "area" to work with compared to those with narrow shoulders. i have a friend who never has worked out before but thinks his traps are just so huge, i try to tell him its not his traps, its just that he has no shoulders, his neck just flows into his arms lol.

yea i definetly have a big build, my shoulders a very broad... ive always been told that i have the build of a football player but i just want my shoulders to be very big and round with lots of striations and definition to them. i do shoulders usually 2 times a week but they just are not as difined and rounded as i would like them to be, should i try doing them 3 times a week or would that be overdoing it? i ususally mix shoulders and back in the same days and sometimes switch to shoulders and triceps

[jstforme]

yea i definetly have a big build, my shoulders a very broad... ive always been told that i have the build of a football player but i just want my shoulders to be very big and round with lots of striations and definition to them. i do shoulders usually 2 times a week but they just are not as difined and rounded as i would like them to be, should i try doing them 3 times a week or would that be overdoing it? i ususally mix shoulders and back in the same days and sometimes switch to shoulders and triceps

twice a week is too much. some guys dont even have a shoulder day. i mix mine in with legs, i tried it with chest day but found it to weaken my shoulder strength too much. my shoulders are probably my best body part, i used to hate them before i started working out. being skinny is one thing but being skinny with broad shoulders makes it look even worse lol. i just do shouler presses, front lateral, side lateral. i would like to start doing upright rows again but i always forget lol. i really dont do rears because to me it seems that you would hit those good during back day.

[bigpumpin37]

twice a week is too much. some guys dont even have a shoulder day. i mix mine in with legs, i tried it with chest day but found it to weaken my shoulder strength too much. my shoulders are probably my best body part, i used to hate them before i started working out. being skinny is one thing but being skinny with broad shoulders makes it look even worse lol. i just do shouler presses, front lateral, side lateral. i would like to start doing upright rows again but i always forget lol. i really dont do rears because to me it seems that you would hit those good during back day.

then what is it better to just work them out real good just one day a week... or do you still need to make sure not to over work them even on the one day that you do shoulders.... thanks for all the advice, definetley appreciate you taking time to help out

[GIJONES]

has anyone ever heard that doing behind the neck pulls downs or presses for shoulders can be bad for them?

i've had a couple ppl tell me, so i've been scared to do it that way. maybe they were lifting wrong though who knows.

[abadseal]

has anyone ever heard that doing behind the neck pulls downs or presses for shoulders can be bad for them?

i've had a couple ppl tell me, so i've been scared to do it that way. maybe they were lifting wrong though who knows.

With heavy weight yes. It puts the deltoid and surrounding muscles in an unnatural position setting yourself up for injury. Heavy presses has given me more mass and shape than any other exercise. Switch it up between barbell, dumbbell, and machine.

[BigdaddyEdDiesel]

has anyone ever heard that doing behind the neck pulls downs or presses for shoulders can be bad for them?

i've had a couple ppl tell me, so i've been scared to do it that way. maybe they were lifting wrong though who knows.

I agree that it's bad news. I just don't see that as a natural motion for your shoulders. Look, i'm no expert, but I'm 6'3, and 250lbs. I have to wear a 4x t-shirt because my shoulders are absolutely monstrous. I use six exercises for my shoulders, always as heavy as I can. Smith machine shrugs, from the front, and with the bar behind your back (which I call reverse shrugs) shoulder press on a hammer machine, I use the chest fly machine in the rear deltoid position, then dumbell raises straight up in the front, and then dumbell raises where you start at the front of your waist, but when you raise them they are about head level, but out a little wider than the width of your shoulder, don't know exactly what that exercise is called, but those exercises have made my shoulders rediculously big. I have people ask me all the time if I shoot roids in my delts and lats because they are so huge, but I never do that. Glutes and quads only. That's all i've ever done, and I've done nothing but get more, and more huge doing it. Hell, I can easily shrug 585lbs a set of 10. I love shoulders, I work them twice a week, and have never had any issues with them getting tired, or hurting them. They are by-far my best muscle group.

[ironfreak83]

all i ever do is behind the neck militaries and then i do lateral raises with dumbells. usually the 10's for 50 reps, 15's for 50, 20's for 50, 25's for 50, and then the 30's for 50. thats all you need and if you do your shoulders twice a week you're overtraining them badly.

also behind the neck militaries have always been very healthy for my shoulders and have never had any problems from doing them. i go to 365 for sets of 3 on a regular basis and have never been hurt on em. you just cant do that half rep bullshit like only going down to your neck, thats how you get hurt on them. go all the way down to the shoulders, pause, then press back up. just dont start too heavy and get ignorant with them.

[SAWADEEKROB]

I have done presses behind my back and never had any pain or problems. Things that get you in trouble are not having enough flexibility, bouncing at the bottom and going too heavy too fast. How do you correct this, easy START LIGHT and work on your form. My personal favorite is to work on 3 days a week for a couple of months to get the groove and set base weights, then move to either 4 days a week as a traditional power bodybuilding style or to any split (chest-back, legs, arms) 2 on 1 off or 3 on 2 off will do provided you are eating good and resting enough!



From my journal

Shoulders
Behind the neck press 5x5
Superset:
Upright Rows 5x8
Standing Laterals 5x8

On the heavy 5x5 do them traditional style (1 max of 5) then move to the superset and rest ONLY 30secs between clusters. Note you may have to lower the weight as the w/o progresses due to lactic acid buildup. On the superset the weight is not as important as the contraction and the focus.

I am assuming that you have your base covered. Am I correct?

[ironfreak83]

I have done presses behind my back and never had any pain or problems. Things that get you in trouble are not having enough flexibility, bouncing at the bottom and going too heavy too fast. How do you correct this, easy START LIGHT and work on your form. My personal favorite is to work on 3 days a week for a couple of months to get the groove and set base weights, then move to either 4 days a week as a traditional power bodybuilding style or to any split (chest-back, legs, arms) 2 on 1 off or 3 on 2 off will do provided you are eating good and resting enough!



From my journal

Shoulders
Behind the neck press 5x5
Superset:
Upright Rows 5x8
Standing Laterals 5x8

On the heavy 5x5 do them traditional style (1 max of 5) then move to the superset and rest ONLY 30secs between clusters. Note you may have to lower the weight as the w/o progresses due to lactic acid buildup. On the superset the weight is not as important as the contraction and the focus.

I am assuming that you have your base covered. Am I correct?



well said brother. also most people dont realize how much you hit your shoulders while benching and most other press movements. i believe that you hit the front part of your shoulders so much by benching and inclines, that there is no point to do militaries to the front. might as well hit a different part of the shoulder with behind the neck.