Tren kills cardio?

[6dra6on6]

I've heard that using Tren will decrease your cardio ability and make you get winded real fast. Is this true? Thanks in advance.

[Tyrone]

I've heard that using Tren will decrease your cardio ability and make you get winded real fast. Is this true? Thanks in advance.

Yup...Seems to do that to people...

[JW]

I've never had any problems. In fact I know Denver Bronco ********** swears by it to get through 2 a days every year. One year we had to make him Fina pellets because his source didn't come through in time.

[Tyrone]

I've never had any problems. In fact I know Denver Bronco ********** swears by it to get through 2 a days every year. One year we had to make him Fina pellets because his source didn't come through in time.
Wow interesting stuff right there....

[Kaiser]

Well, I have heard of this plenty of times with other users. It has not happened to me yet, but I truly think it is user independent as is other negative AAS affects. As with everyone, as their genes are different, sometimes its a trial and error game. Go for the TrenAce if you want to experiment, that way you get your answer fast, and it is out of your system faster.

[maxs griffith]

:cool: I've heard that using Tren will decrease your cardio ability and make you get winded real fast. Is this true? Thanks in advance.that,s not true.

[alan1973]

I've heard that using Tren will decrease your cardio ability and make you get winded real fast. Is this true? Thanks in advance.

if it does, then that should explain a lot for me right now.
I just came off a Tren cycle and am having a hell of a time. I hope after my PCT I will be a bit better.

[Kaiser]

:cool: that,s not true.

This is WTF I hate about forums and new people sometimes. People speak out in a definite manner and have no clue as to what they are talking about. Max, you've pretty much summed up your experience here. How many questions are going to be answered with a test bed reference of 1 user? OK, just doing a quick search popped steroid.com's profile up of trenbolone:

http://www.steroid.com/Trenbolone-Acetate.php

Read the second to the last paragraph. There are about 20 more if you would like some more references.

Ya know, after all of these years, this kind of immediate direction amazes me. You know what I especially like about BigA and for this I trust? He'll tell you he had no adverse affects from gear whatsoever. The second thing he'll tell you is he is not the norm of the population.
This feeds into my line of thinking and the fact that I have seen people around me use gear and cause problems with themselves. Or I have seen how gear like trenbolone is not the second coming or the eighth wonder of the world. It does have drawbacks. EVERYONE'S GENETICS ARE DIFFERENT. End of story. Some people have adverse affects to certain chemicals.

By chance have you seen a difference between your post and JW's? JW said he has never experienced any problems. He mentions another person that he knows that did not have a problem. But that's it. He didn't say it wasn't possible for others. See the difference here? I've never experienced any problems either, but I'll never say it is not true without proper reference.

[ironworker184]

YA, kick his ass Kai !!!!!!!:D

[Tyrone]

This is WTF I hate about forums and new people sometimes. People speak out in a definite manner and have no clue as to what they are talking about. Max, you've pretty much summed up your experience here. How many questions are going to be answered with a test bed reference of 1 user? OK, just doing a quick search popped steroid.com's profile up of trenbolone:

http://www.steroid.com/Trenbolone-Acetate.php

Read the second to the last paragraph. There are about 20 more if you would like some more references.

Ya know, after all of these years, this kind of immediate direction amazes me. You know what I especially like about BigA and for this I trust? He'll tell you he had no adverse affects from gear whatsoever. The second thing he'll tell you is he is not the norm of the population.
This feeds into my line of thinking and the fact that I have seen people around me use gear and cause problems with themselves. Or I have seen how gear like trenbolone is not the second coming or the eighth wonder of the world. It does have drawbacks. EVERYONE'S GENETICS ARE DIFFERENT. End of story. Some people have adverse affects to certain chemicals.

By chance have you seen a difference between your post and JW's? JW said he has never experienced any problems. He mentions another person that he knows that did not have a problem. But that's it. He didn't say it wasn't possible for others. See the difference here? I've never experienced any problems either, but I'll never say it is not true without proper reference.

Agreed with ya man...I know you see it even more than I do...I know I've seen a post by ol' Mickbbc followed by a post, "Yea" not that some of the more recent threads/posts don't take the cake...I have to think we get hit hard by this phenomenon more because Ashop is more well known and advertised on other boards with the randoms migrating of just checking things out...Most publicity is good for him however...Just not easy on everyone else lol...Anyways, you're the man Kais!

[abadseal]

It's funny. It seems when using tren I initially become very fatigued but once I warm up everything's normal.

[6dra6on6]

I asked this question because a guy picked a fight with me the other night. Even though I beat him up I still got winded and the fight only lasted about a minute. That's very strange for me.
Right now I'm taking tren ace 100m eod and clen. Doing some research revealed that clen can make you short of breath too.
I'm beginning to suspect that the clen has more to do with the problem, but combining the two probably makes it worse.

Needless to say I stopped using clen and have one inject left of the tren cycle.

[BigdaddyEdDiesel]

Hmm...that's odd...I thought clen was actually used as a bronchilator, or helps with people's breathing as to improve the function? My experience with tren hasn't shown me anything that would make me think it diminishes your cardio level? Are you actually doing any cardio while using it? It's helped me actually improve in every category of my physical fitness. Just my 2 cents though.

[Jason B]

Hmm...that's odd...I thought clen was actually used as a bronchilator, or helps with people's breathing as to improve the function? My experience with tren hasn't shown me anything that would make me think it diminishes your cardio level? Are you actually doing any cardio while using it? It's helped me actually improve in every category of my physical fitness. Just my 2 cents though.

I agree. I have used clen and tren on separate occasions and tren seems to affect my cardio whereas the clen did not. When I use tren I feel more out of breath after a set than normal, and especially when doing cardio.

[6dra6on6]

This is exactly why I came to this forum to get an answer. Papers and articles may state something, but it's the actual testimonies of the users where I draw the most value.
I've never gassed out that soon - even when my cardio was at it's lowest point. I haven't been able to do a lot of heavy bag work due to a bad shoulder, but I have been doing work on the Arctrainer with a high resistance to simulate running uphill.
I'll have to stop the tren and continue clen and see what happens from there.

[ironworker184]

how did this retarded thread become a sticky:confused:

[JW]

I have no idea-I'm un sticking it...

[abh99]

I asked this question because a guy picked a fight with me the other night. Even though I beat him up I still got winded and the fight only lasted about a minute. That's very strange for me.

Have you been in many fights? I think you're trying to compare apples to oranges. Your body goes into a fight or flight mode and your adrenaline increases, heart rate sky rockets, etc. Even if it's for just a minute you're gonna feel winded afterwards as a reaction to everything your body does to cope with the stress of a fight. I don't think your reaction to a fight has anything to do with the tren or your lack of cardio.

For me, when doing cardio, I'll run for 30 minutes or whatever and then cool down and within a few minutes my heartrate's back to normal. But, the very few times I've ever found myself in a fight, my body took quite a while afterwards to feel normal again. My heartrate was way up, my hands were shaky, I was short of breath, etc. I've always been in great shape so it wasn't a lack of cardio it was just my body reacting to being in that stressful situation. Hell, even the times when a fight could've happened but didn't, I could feel a rush of adrenaline, heart rate up, a little shaky.


Basically, what I'm getting at is you'd be better off comparing your cardio/recovery ability before and after tren, compare apples to apples...

Any thoughts?

[JW]

Your right it's not an accurate comparison at all. (Unless he fights Ed or EOD.)

[Rhandhular]

Kills my cardio for sure and boning my old lady when on tren damn near gives me a heart attack.

[abh99]

Kills my cardio for sure and boning my old lady when on tren damn near gives me a heart attack.


I've never been on tren, so can't speak from personal opinion, but isn't that what lying on your back and letting her go to town is for? haha

[Jason B]

[QUOTE=ironworker184;54934]how did this retarded thread become a sticky:confused:[/QUOTE

HAHAHA! I was wandering the same thing.

[Jason B]

Kills my cardio for sure and boning my old lady when on tren damn near gives me a heart attack.

No kidding, but when you use test you try to get your cardio in at least once a day:D My wife loves it!

[6dra6on6]

I used to fight all the time when training with MMA fighters and stuff like that and I had plenty of altercations in the street as well. I know what huffing and puffing is and I know what the adrenline rush feels like and all that stuff too. This was completely different. I was literally gasping for breath and I could hardly talk afterwards and the fight lasted only about a minute. This has NEVER happened before now, so I know it has to do with something I'm taking.
Incidently I bumped into a fighter I know at the gym tonight and he told me he had the same problem with Tren and had to stop using it.

[Rhandhular]

No kidding, but when you use test you try to get your cardio in at least once a day:D My wife loves it!

Once? I go about 4 times a day and god damn it eats up alot of time.

[JW]

Then your blood pressure is up from the Tren. Your out of breath (all of you prob) from High Blood Pressure-which you can control. Let me say again, Tren does not "kill cardio."

[Rhandhular]

I've never been on tren, so can't speak from personal opinion, but isn't that what lying on your back and letting her go to town is for? haha

Doesn't seem to matter dude. I swear to god that gets me winded as hell to. I am lean to less than 9%. Just busting a nut does it I think:D

[Tyrone]

Doesn't seem to matter dude. I swear to god that gets me winded as hell to. I am lean to less than 9%. Just busting a nut does it I think:D

Long time no see Rhandhular....Good to see ya...What's new!?

[6dra6on6]

It's been a week and half since I last used Tren(the last dose was just before the fight) and already I feel an improvement. The blood pressure issue makes sense too. Thanks for the feedback, I knoew I came to the right place with this "retarded thread".

[maxs griffith]

:cool: I've never been on tren, so can't speak from personal opinion, but isn't that what lying on your back and letting her go to town is for? haha

[Kaiser]

Then your blood pressure is up from the Tren. Your out of breath (all of you prob) from High Blood Pressure-which you can control. Let me say again, Tren does not "kill cardio."

You might want to reiterate and explain it doesn't kill cardio on you or some of the people you know. Some people here might actually take your word for it with no actual test bed.

[alan1973]

You might want to reiterate and explain it doesn't kill cardio on you or some of the people you know. Some people here might actually take your word for it with no actual test bed.
ah, so IOW tren increases BP which in turn makes out feel winded faster thus making it feels it kills cardio.
so then Algebraically, Tren kills cardio

[JW]

ah, so IOW tren increases BP which in turn makes out feel winded faster thus making it feels it kills cardio.
so then Algebraically, Tren kills cardio

Well you got me there. Although sometimes BP can be controlled...

[alan1973]

Well you go tme there. Although sometimes BP can be controlled...

I am takings 10mg/day of Zestril, however, I think the dosage is not enough.
increasing my cardio should help.
watching my diet will definately help.