View Full Version : First cycle, Need opinions!
cnepp
01-03-2006, 08:03 AM
Hello - This will be my first cycle of AAS. I am 6'1'', 220 lbs, very athletic with 4 years of weight training experience. Here is what I have come up with. Please give your opinion!
Week 1: Enanthate - 500 mg, Equipoise – 400 mg.
Week 2: Enanthate - 500 mg, Equipoise - 400 mg.
Week 3: Enanthate - 500 mg, Equipoise - 400 mg.
Week 4: Enanthate - 500 mg, Equipoise - 400 mg.
Week 5: Enanthate - 500 mg, Equipoise - 400 mg.
Week 6: Enanthate - 500 mg, Equipoise - 400 mg.
Week 7: Enanthate - 500 mg, Equipoise - 400 mg.
Week 8: Enanthate - 500 mg, Equipoise - 400 mg.
Week 9: Enanthate - 500 mg, Equipoise - 400 mg.
Week 10: Enanthate - 500 mg, Equipoise - 400 mg.
Week 11: Propionate - 150 mg E.O.D
Week 12: Propionate - 150 mg E.O.D, 40 mg Nolvadex
Week 13: 30 mg Nolvadex
Week 14: 20 mg Nolvadex
Week 15: 20 mg Nolvadex
Cheers!
:)
jstforme
01-03-2006, 08:40 AM
lookin good cnepp, to help kickstart gains you can even throw in some prop in the first 3 weeks to help kickstart the enanthate, or dianabol which i would use but isnt absolutly neccesary
cnepp
01-03-2006, 11:19 AM
Hey thanks - some good advice. I beleive I'll have some extra prop so I'll throw it in when I begin. Thanks again.
Cheers.
LIke the brutha said...you could use the prop for a kick for the first 2-3 weeks and then run the test e....but why run test prop at the end?...If your trying to loose some fat then add some var and extend it for 4-6 weeks and then use clomid exactly 2 weeks after your last prop injection.....I personally prefer nolva as an anti-gyno rather than pct...That's just my body and the way it reacts...I know everyone is different...
jstforme
01-03-2006, 11:44 PM
well your going to want to run prop while running enanthate in the beinging, not prop then enanthate. you wont see anyhting from enanthate for about 3 weeks. hes going to run prop at the end so his test levels will be steady when coming to his pct, propitionates short half life means that you can start pct a few days after last shot. cnepp something i was thinking about for your last weeks would be something like this
week 10 enanthate - 500 mg, eq 400
for week 11 your cool to not take anything, you test levels are still high from long lasting enanthate so no need to start with prop yet
i would start prop on week 12 and if you want get a week 13 in, wont hurt.
then your pct.
ive never tried anavar but i really dislike its price. i still reccomend nolvadex for antis and pct. unlike clomid, nolvadex had a direct influence on brining back natural testosterone, clomid actually has a slight negative influence. nolvadex is a lot stronger mg for mg but is also a lot safer, less acne, but like BigO said everybody is different and react to things in different ways
cnepp
01-04-2006, 01:58 AM
Hmm, never thought of that. If I do it that way [starting Prop in week 13] then that leaves it perfect timing to start PCT for the Enanthate AND the Prop - you know what your talking about. Thanks guys for your opinions.
jstforme
01-04-2006, 02:42 AM
just remember cneep whatever you do, after your last enanthate shot wait a 10 to 14 days before using prop and you must stay on prop for 2-3 weeks to make sure that enanthate is totally gone
arnold jr
01-04-2006, 11:34 AM
just remember cneep whatever you do, after your last enanthate shot wait a 10 to 14 days before using prop and you must stay on prop for 2-3 weeks to make sure that enanthate is totally gone
Agreed. If he does this, 3wks of prop at the end would be preferable.
cnepp
01-04-2006, 02:59 PM
Sounds good. Thanks for all your replies. I'll continue researching untill I get the cash to order what I want!
I wrote it wrong....I meant start off with the long estered test and use the prop as the kick in the begining...I like suspension from G-P because it's painless and then by week 3 your long ester's have started to kick in....Also let the test e kick itself out and then use the prop...I don't like messing with my system like that... The levels seems to de-stabilize when you stop the test abruptly...That's the way my system works every one is different....I'm 47 so the last thing I need is lowered test levels....That's why you keep proviron and hcg just in case....
I like the prop/winny/tren at the end....There's not a better stack for cutting out there..
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