Newbie first cycle

[paullee]

Hi, first stats
age 44
5'6"
Weight 85 kilos
Training on and off since I was 17. Serious for the last 3 years following divorce.
Bodyfat about 20%
Chest 44
Waist 34
Arms 16
Current routine super squats full body workout
Millitary press chins Bench press bent row curls squats deadlifts.
Workout about once every 3 days on rotation.
Goal to look like I work out not a Fat Bastard! lol,
Diet clean and biased towards low cal high protien/ Fat as per beradi.
I have bought the laymans guides by Mike Hart and he has recomended oral dianabol as a first cycle,as I am not afraid of pins would this be the best return on my investment,
I would not like to go OTT.
:o I do have a slight problem with the tackle and would not like to make this any worse therefore the dreaded decca would be a big no for me.
Also what about HCG?
Not to well off so I would consider perhaps 2 cycles per year and would like to retain all or as much as poss out of a cycle.
Hope you can help and thanks in advance.
Cheers

[jstforme]

well with you being 44, im sure you know your test levels are decreacing, so number one i would do test, i prefer enanthate. a strait cycle of 500 or 750 mg will yeild great gains, trust me, ive done it, currently im on 750/wk. equipoise stacked with test is also good in my opinion. like 400mg eq with 500mg test. i know most cycles are around 12 weeks but i did a 16 week and really think those extra 4 weeks were worth it. hcg is reccomended only if you need it, it is very estrogenic, i was getting bad gyno from it so definitly need some nolvadex too for pct. there is a lot of great gear out there, but i would consider that your meat and potatoes, works well for everyone IMO. i wouldnt do an all dbol cycle, i would use it first 4-6 weeks, its cheap and works very well to help jumpstart gains. ps that was an excellent way to ask for help, posting your stats is much appreciated.

[BigO]

There's a much bettebook out there called Builing The Perfect Beast...Well worth it...
I'm 47 and my cycle is something like this...

1g test e
900 mg's eq
600 mg's deca for the pains..
6-8 t-bols less sides than d-bol and more solid gains
proviron on hand for the little one

[Kaiser]

well with you being 44, im sure you know your test levels are decreacing, so number one i would do test, i prefer enanthate. a strait cycle of 500 or 750 mg will yeild great gains, trust me, ive done it, currently im on 750/wk. equipoise stacked with test is also good in my opinion. like 400mg eq with 500mg test. i know most cycles are around 12 weeks but i did a 16 week and really think those extra 4 weeks were worth it. hcg is reccomended only if you need it, it is very estrogenic, i was getting bad gyno from it so definitly need some nolvadex too for pct. there is a lot of great gear out there, but i would consider that your meat and potatoes, works well for everyone IMO. i wouldnt do an all dbol cycle, i would use it first 4-6 weeks, its cheap and works very well to help jumpstart gains. ps that was an excellent way to ask for help, posting your stats is much appreciated.


Not sure you realize this but without proper capitalization and\or punctuation, your posts can be deciphered a few different ways. Like above where it looks like you may be recommending 750mg of EQ & 750mg TestA a week. I know you didn't, but he may not (cause that probably wouldn't be to good for him;). Just pointing it out so he doesn't get mistaken.

[BigO]

I'm trying figure out how my post got on this thread?.......I never even read this thread till a few seconds ago...

[Kaiser]

I'm trying figure out how my post got on this thread?.......I never even read this thread till a few seconds ago...


Just Edit then Delete it.

[11rdc11]

Senor Paullee, I would recommend you running a cycle a little like this.

Week 1-12
Test E at 500mg a week (shot mon and thurs)

Week 1-4
Dbol at 30 mg everyday

This cycle should do a pretty good job for a first timer. You may chose to switch the dbol for tbol at 50mg everyday as well. Start your pct on week 13. If the bloat starts to bother you take adex at .25 mg a day to reduce the problem. If you have any other questions feel free to ask?

[jstforme]

that test E is going to still be going stong at week 13, i would start PCT on week 14

[11rdc11]

Thanks for the correction, jstforme. It takes two weeks after last test e shot to start pct. My bad paullee. Do you know how you plan to run your pct?

[crytklmass]

I had excellent results from test -e 500mg wk1-10 and dbol 30mg ed.wk 1-4 make sure you have nolva or adex. for gyno. that was my first cycle and it was excellent.