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[BigO]

How many of you guys get a little or very irritable when on the gear?..and what gear are you guys on and how much.....I'm trying to approach my next cycle a little different this time....I'm a miserable grouchy old fuck when I'm on a lot of test....

Who likes primo?...I've never done it but it sounds a little pricy to do for along cycle...

[Gregalmighty]

Supertest 450 every 3 days and about 9wks in. :)
Definately irritable! :mad:

[sTaTic]

Primo is ok but you would be better off using EQ. I don't get irritated until some idiot driver pisses me off ;)

[Gregalmighty]

oh yeah.............600EQ/wk mixed with the ST
go with Alin.....
he's the man!

[Alin]

How many of you guys get a little or very irritable when on the gear?..and what gear are you guys on and how much.....I'm trying to approach my next cycle a little different this time....I'm a miserable grouchy old fuck when I'm on a lot of test....

Who likes primo?...I've never done it but it sounds a little pricy to do for along cycle...


just have to learn to control aggression and use it in your training.
primo is very good. much milder than test.

[Kaiser]

I just learned over a period of time to be calm. It did take some time, but I learned. I actually know for a fact that now when I am on, almost 16 years after my first cycle (35 now), I am actually calmer on the stuff. I think it has to do with confidence level. My confidence level goes through the roof and I have tamed it to work for me, not against me. For instance, my wife starts with me when I am off for 9 months and I am explosive. She gets to me. When I am on, I am able to stay calmer & confident and know deep down inside that I am right and she will realize it sooner or later. Not to say that I am always right but you get the idea;) Years ago I started forming myself toward this train of thought because I was way to violent-a-mutha-fucker (not with my wife or any other girl for that matter) and it started to hurt me financially (lawyers, court, etc.) So now, the "you can't hurt me physically", has turned into "you cant hurt me psychologically" becuse I steered my confidence level, which by default stops you from even getting physical. I don't want to ramble to much, but I figured I would share a little of long time user experience with the crew... In the end, your mind can overcome anything once conditioned to do so.

As far as stuff that doesn't do it, stay away from tests and especially high androgen. Drol will cause just about anyone to lose it.

Also keep in mind, the more angry you allow yourself to get, the higher the blood pressure. Keep yourself safe.

[cnepp]

In the end, your mind can overcome anything once conditioned to do so.

Nicely put.

[JILANI]

just have to learn to control aggression and use it in your training.
primo is very good. much milder than test.


Alin and the others are correct about controling the anger, I have two children and my youngest wants to be held at the wrong time, when I'm either on the bench or when I'm doing curls all this while he's crying believe me he's a big pain in the crack, my wife threatens not to buy me anymore gear if I even remotely show any sing of anger so I just take a deep breath and eat it. Anyway a person losing their cool whether on gear or not is a sign of weakness that is my opinion. Not to offend anyone ofcourse :)

[jstforme]

Alin and the others are correct about controling the anger, I have two children and my youngest wants to be held at the wrong time, when I'm either on the bench or when I'm doing curls all this while he's crying believe me he's a big pain in the crack, my wife threatens not to buy me anymore gear if I even remotely show any sing of anger so I just take a deep breath and eat it. Anyway a person losing their cool whether on gear or not is a sign of weakness that is my opinion. Not to offend anyone ofcourse :)

damn, your wife buys your gear, she have any younger sisters?

[JILANI]

damn, your wife buys your gear, she have any younger sisters?


Ha HA HA, no she doesnt but she is a senior VP in her bank, and she's only 27. So if I behave I get gear, Xbox games, 360 games, ps2 games,etc. :) I love my wife :) :) She does have a single friend though.

[BigO]

Well my last cycle was like this...

1200mg's test e
900 mg's eq
600 mgs deca
6-8 t-bols e/d

Nutri-Vet gear and B/D t-bols...
The vet gear was 300mg/ml both deca and eq....

[sTaTic]

Well my last cycle was like this...

1200mg's test e
900 mg's eq
600 mgs deca
6-8 t-bols e/d

Nutri-Vet gear and B/D t-bols...
The vet gear was 300mg/ml both deca and eq....


hey bro,

do you use deca for the joint problem? I always read about mixing deca and eq but never could figure it out in my head why :confused:

[mickeymbbc]

hey bro,

do you use deca for the joint problem? I always read about mixing deca and eq but never could figure it out in my head why :confused:


Nothing wrong with mixing EQ with deca, it can be very productive if done correctly.



-mick

[sTaTic]

not saying its wrong. I just wanted to know the theory behind it.

[mickeymbbc]

I Do Not Know What You Are Asking?? The Theory Of What?




-mick

[BigO]

The deca is for the joints and to solidify the gains from early in the cycle...deca in higher doses seems to supress my appetite somewhat as most nandrolones do....the eq gives me a serious appetite and also promotes oxygen in the red blood cells for the better pump...Those who use eq will absolutely back me on this one....Eq will give you serious pumps.....You just don't use deca with parbolin...or tren e...

I know guys that stay on maintenance doses of deca or test just for that reason...I may do that between the next 2 cycles...I stay on the deca for at least 12 weeks and the eq 10/12 also.....I know when my deca doses get up there I make sure I'm taking proviron also....Even though my test is up there I don't like taking chances....With that said the gains I get from this cycle are pretty solid gains I gained almost 3/4 of an inch on my calves...My shoulders gain a little outer head and I certainly got more vascular.....
I also tried Nutri-vet suspension and I had huge bruises in my delt/bi area..Never again with vet gear suspension.....I used G-P suspension and have yet to try Alin's gear...But I will..

I'm having major surgery on my left knee at the end of the month so this will give me a chance to get my arms up to par...There only 17 1/2 so I'm going to concentrate on upper pecs/shoulder's/tri's and bi's....My lower body is to big from to much squating....
I bought some used gear at Big Fitnes.com in Pawtucket,R.I. Seated press behind the neck stand for 125.00 it has a rip in the seat and it's pretty old but it'll hold some serious weight...a preacher curl bench seated nice for 75.00 i bought an olympic set at dick's for 105 for 310lbs...The bar sucks but the weights were worth it...I bought a used easy curl bar for 20.00 all olympic.I'm looking for an incline with out the leg curl bull shit...I may buy a power rack and bench that inclines....
Plus some gear for a solid cycle so I don't go insane....
I hope this answers the ?...I get a little winded sometimes...

[sTaTic]

yeah that answered it. I use eq all the time so i know what you mean about the pumps and vascularity. <---is that a word

I figured the deca was for the joints. I just wasn't sure.

Mick-
the theory i was asking about was what would one hope to get out of a cycle using deca and eq.

i have used both seperately and both have done the same thing for me. Deca made me hold a bit more water than eq but hardly anything to notice. I was just curious to why people would use the 2 together if they do the same thing. I guess it has different effects on others than it did for me. Was just wondering brutha :D


anyway... thanks BigO

[Steel_Test]

during my bulk cycle
week1-4
slin, deca, anadrol, sustanon
week 5-8
deca, primo, dbol

I get uncotrolable with anadrol@150mg

[jstforme]

during my bulk cycle
week1-4
slin, deca, anadrol, sustanon
week 5-8
deca, primo, dbol

I get uncotrolable with anadrol@150mg

i dont want to rag on you but did you think of this cycle while you were sleeping

[Kaiser]

Well my last cycle was like this...

1200mg's test e
900 mg's eq
600 mgs deca
6-8 t-bols e/d

Nutri-Vet gear and B/D t-bols...
The vet gear was 300mg/ml both deca and eq....

I liked your original post this morning BigO. You should have left it out there. After all we're all on the same team & brothers... It might have taught some people a little. I know where you were coming from. Good Luck Bro.