do-over

[maniron_1]

in reference to the stuff I have on the way, I'm supposing I should sideline all the orals and incorporate them into a more effective cycle. This will be my third cycle. How do I untangle this mess and make it more productive? My first two cycles were bare minimum newbie recommendations. (1) 200mg deca/wk for 6 weeks followed by 2 winny 50s a day for 6 weeks with over-the-counter (legal) PCT for 4 weeks. (2) 200mg primobolan/wk for 6 weeks followed by 2 winny 50s a day for 6 weeks, same PCT. Got decent results (165lbs to 185lbs). Now at 5'8" 205lbs and looking to bulk up in acceptable increments.

[Tyree33]

I'm not trying to be a dick but what's your ? or point?

[BigO]

First off your doses are to low....deca should be run for at least 10-12 weeks IMO...Parabolin should be run 8 weeks and no more than that...your not listening to the members or senior members here ..IMO...

Your PCT is bull shit...You need to take clomid exactly 2 weeks after your last injection...I can assure you your not getting clomid over the counter....I also didn't see any test in the mix....you should always run test...probably in the 500 mg range would be good start or sustanon,e or c is O.K....

You also need to break up your winny tabs in 1/4's and spread it out thru out the day not all at once...

Just ask someone to help you out...it sounds like someone your listening too doesn't have a clue.....Good LUck!

[maniron_1]

I hear and obey big O, written the juice and the doses down. How does deca, sust, and the 100 winny 10s I already have Will purchase and get back to you for more direction. pct for this run will be clomid. How much for the cycle you recommended and at what dose? I have 100 nolv 10mg/s. Should I save this for next cycle? What do I do with the 100 10mg d-bols and the 100 A-50s? How long will they keep while I re-direct my cycle scheme? How much deca, how much sust, how much clomid, do I add the nolv?

[BigO]

in reference to the stuff I have on the way, I'm supposing I should sideline all the orals and incorporate them into a more effective cycle. This will be my third cycle. How do I untangle this mess and make it more productive? My first two cycles were bare minimum newbie recommendations. (1) 200mg deca/wk for 6 weeks followed by 2 winny 50s a day for 6 weeks with over-the-counter (legal) PCT for 4 weeks. (2) 200mg primobolan/wk for 6 weeks followed by 2 winny 50s a day for 6 weeks, same PCT. Got decent results (165lbs to 185lbs). Now at 5'8" 205lbs and looking to bulk up in acceptable increments.

Sustanon 500 mgs--short esters..shoot 250 sus and 150 deca twice a week
deca 300 mgs e/w

winstrol-50-100 mgs e/d...split your doses up if you take 1 then do 1/2 in the morning and the other half later in the afternoon..if you take 2 the 4-1/2 thru out the day...

deca will stay in your system alot longer than sus will..a 10 12 week cycle should be good for ya...

PCT..Very important...Clomid 2 weeks after your last injection..clean up for 8-10 weeks and then go on again..

Remember eat,eat and eat more...Shakes will work well for filling in the needed calories...and drink alot of water..1 gallon a day

Hope this helps you and Good Luck!

[BigO]

Holy shit your all over the place with the gear...Your making me dizzy...This is a bulking cycle don't forget...

500 mgs of sus 250 twice a week

300 mgs deca once a week or mix it with the sus....

d-bol 2-4 a day no more than that...keep the nolva on hand by week 5-6 you will know if your getting gyno.. 6-8 weeks..I would recomend 6 for ya..but see how your body feels...

Or do the winny if you want a more defined look...you will retain water with d-bol...keep an eye on your blood pressure too...

Save the a drol for later I'm thinking you don't need a-drol right now...A-drol should be left for the hard gainers....

[maniron_1]

ok, quick questions, in reference to my re-configured cycle, beginning week 5, when I use the nolv., how much and how often (they're 10mgs a piece)? When do I fuse in the d-bol and the win. (at what point in the cycle (I'm trying it for a 10 week span)? And thanks loads on the diet tips as well.

[BigO]

You should have started with the d-bol right off the bat...You don't have enough time to effectively use the d-bol in a 10 week cycle...You can how ever start the winny righty now....

The problem is you should have laid out your cycle in the begining with set goals...That is enough gear,diet traing and your PCT...I personally only use nolva when I'm doing d-bol which I don't anymore..To many sides for me..I'm 48 and it seems that the sides are worse when you get older.....
I didn't know you were in week 5..your already commited to the cycle....You have 2 options...finish the cycle or get off for a little bit and start over with a plan and goal in mind....I'm not trying to bust your bubble here but this was not a planned out cycle...There's no reason for it either..there's enough well experienced brother's here who could have laid out a well planned cycle for ya...I'd say throw the winny in and make it a fat burning cycle since you didn't use your d-bol yet...I would do clomid 2 weeks after your last injection for 3-4 weeks clean out your receptors and start fresh with a pure bulking cycle and extend it to 12-16 weeks...Remember time on equals time off is a good rule of thumb..

Good Luck!

[Alin]

in reference to the stuff I have on the way, I'm supposing I should sideline all the orals and incorporate them into a more effective cycle. This will be my third cycle. How do I untangle this mess and make it more productive? My first two cycles were bare minimum newbie recommendations. (1) 200mg deca/wk for 6 weeks followed by 2 winny 50s a day for 6 weeks with over-the-counter (legal) PCT for 4 weeks. (2) 200mg primobolan/wk for 6 weeks followed by 2 winny 50s a day for 6 weeks, same PCT. Got decent results (165lbs to 185lbs). Now at 5'8" 205lbs and looking to bulk up in acceptable increments.



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