Help w/ cutter on a budget

[Tyree33]

I need little help w/ a cutter on a budget. Here is my proposed run, subject to change w/ input from u guys.
1-6 IP parabolan 75 mg/day
1-8 IP prop/suspension/day
1-6 t-3 50-75/day
clen 14on 14off
1-8 hcg 300-500 iu 4/5 days
1-10 arimidex
8/9/10 nolva clomid as recommended

I know that the parabolan, t-3, clen and anti's are pretty much right on target.
But I've got a couple of ?
1. Is the ip prop/susp even worth my money?
2. I've used both individually but never together is it worth it?

First off, I'm not looking to get absolutely shredded. I've built a very solid base over the past several years but no matter how tough I diet or spend on the tread mill I can't loose those stubborn 20 lbs. I firmly believe that hard work is the answer before resorting to these type of drugs and I've spent a lot of time researching them to come to this conclusion. Listen, if I was rollin in dough I would buy all name gear but times are rough especailly after the holidays cash is tight and I've used ip gear in the past w/ good results. I've posted my stats but that was about a million threads ago so I'll give a refresher.
29y/o 6' 235 approx 15-20%bf
About 7 yrs exp w/ gear (all bulkers) and pretty educated on the subject, as most of u who have read my posts can tell.
Have been a die-hard muscle head since I was 15.
Played pac-10 baseball w/ excellent strength coaches.
I'm pretty stubborn when it comes to asking for advice but I could really use it right now since this is a new type of goal for me. Lifting has become one of the most important parts of life. I would sincerely appreciate any help I could get, u guys are awesome on this board. Sorry for rambling bro's and thanks for listetning-T-

[sTaTic]

I'm sure your diet it good and tight but if you have a stubborn 20 lbs then there has to be something wrong with the diet.

I did a diet of fish, vegtables and water. Ate it all day. Didnt count calories, fat or anything. Just every 3 to 4 hours I ate one or all above. Or if I was hungry, I ate. Made sure I got enough protein in a day.

I did this for 30 days and lost around 25 lbs of fat while retaining most of my muscle. I was not on gear either. I was shreaded.

I tried this diet when I was on Tren A and EQ and the results were incredible. Best I ever looked.

If you were wondering:

Tren A ED week 1-10
EQ 600mg/wk 1-12
Clen 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off
Pct of hcg and clomid

I know some people would look the other way on this cycle but I had no Problems with anything. I'm one of those believers that you don't need a test base with every cycle. Don't get me wrong, I like Test- just don't use it all the time. Oh and Deca doesn't give me deca dick either
:D

[opusx]

I'm sure your diet it good and tight but if you have a stubborn 20 lbs then there has to be something wrong with the diet.

I did a diet of fish, vegtables and water. Ate it all day. Didnt count calories, fat or anything. Just every 3 to 4 hours I ate one or all above. Or if I was hungry, I ate. Made sure I got enough protein in a day.

I did this for 30 days and lost around 25 lbs of fat while retaining most of my muscle. I was not on gear either. I was shreaded.

I tried this diet when I was on Tren A and EQ and the results were incredible. Best I ever looked.

If you were wondering:

Tren A ED week 1-10
EQ 600mg/wk 1-12
Clen 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off
Pct of hcg and clomid

I know some people would look the other way on this cycle but I had no Problems with anything. I'm one of those believers that you don't need a test base with every cycle. Don't get me wrong, I like Test- just don't use it all the time. Oh and Deca doesn't give me deca dick either
:D


that cycle with a fish veggie water diet?? you must have been cut as hell. I would love to be able to do it, I just can't fight the cravings for sugars I get. I bet I could do that and do the Soy Milk with Amplify for my sweets cravings. I love that stuff now, it tastes better than a milk shake to me. When did you start PCT with that cycle?

[sTaTic]

week 15 started 100mg clomid ED and 4000iu of hcg

5 days later did 3000iu hcg
5 days later did 3000iu hcg

while continueing the 100mgs of clomid

after last hcg injection, i switched to 50 mgs of clomid for 3 weeks.

I was pretty shreaded.

doing the same thing come this april but going to use winstrol at the end and no tren A. Maybe throw in some t3.

[anaholic]

try the fish and veggie thing, if you cant take it any more add some chicken breast and white rice, or even some oatmeal and eggwhites
when is the last time youve done parabolin?
you said youve done test prop and test suspension before, how did you like it, you did it affect you? how long has it been since youve used them?

[Tyree33]

The last time I used parabolan (BD Tren Depot) was last May, part of a bulker that also included test, dbol, EQ. The tren had kick-ass results and I handled the drug well. I did test susp. and prop. several yrs ago both w/ good results. I liked the prop a little better; I don't mind frequent injects. I've been cleaning up my diet for about the last 6 wks, lots of tuna, salmon, chicken, veggies, and of course low cal whey. I eat about six times/day. I've just always had that "tire" around my waist that I've been self-concious about. The weird thing is that the rest of my body is big and RIPPED. I've got great bone structure, thin skin, vascular as hell. I specifically target my abs as a warm up before I lift 5 days/wk and do cardio @ least 3 days/wk. I'm not looking for a quick fix here bud but it's really messing w/ my confidence. BTW, I think I'm gonna go w/ sustanon instead of the susp/prop combo. Thanks for your help man.

[anaholic]

you cant just clean up your diet, you nedd to diet for real, for at least a month, 3 months would be better, dieting is the hardest part of the whole deal, high estrogen levels really increase my appitite i hate doing test when dieting for this reason, i think cardio is overrated the only time i did it was when i was a couple weeks out from a show and wasnt lean enough, i did this on a stationary bike at home imediatley upon arising .