first cycle please review

[BigTom69]

Ok, this would be my first cycle. I am 25 years old. 200 Lbs. about 15% bf.

Sus250 1-10 weeks 500mg
Winny 50mg ed 4-10 weeks or anavar 50 mg 4-10
Novadex 10mg ed 1-10
Optional deca 400mg 1-10
clomid 11-13 mg??

Now my question is how much clomid do I need? I was looking it up And most suggest three weeks of it. How would I spread it out??
Also, do you think that the deca would be to much for the first cycle. Also which do you think is better for the cutting at the end the winny or the anavar? Thanks for the info.

[Bucket]

Ok, this would be my first cycle. I am 25 years old. 200 Lbs. about 15% bf.

Sus250 1-10 weeks 500mg
Winny 50mg ed 4-10 weeks or anavar 50 mg 4-10
Novadex 10mg ed 1-10
Optional deca 400mg 1-10
clomid 11-13 mg??

Now my question is how much clomid do I need? I was looking it up And most suggest three weeks of it. How would I spread it out??
Also, do you think that the deca would be to much for the first cycle. Also which do you think is better for the cutting at the end the winny or the anavar? Thanks for the info.

Personally I would make a few modifications to your cycle. Since this is your first cycle then just keep it simple brother. Because of the frequency of injects needed per week for sust to work properly it would be better to run a single ester. Also don't worry about cutting. Just get your diet in check and bulk brother. It's winter. :)

Week 1-10 500 test
Week 1-10 400 deca

PCT

Week 13 40mg nolva
Week 14 30mg Nolva
Week 15 20mg Nolva

Notice how there is no clomid in this cycle. For most people there are alot of sides associated with clomid that do not appear with Nolva. IMO Nolva is far superior to clomid. Also don't worry about spreading out the doses of Nolva during the day. It has a half life of around 5 days so take them all at once.

[BigTom69]

Ok, Thanks bro I will do some research on test deca combo. You are not the first person to recommend this. Why is it better to shot more freqently on your first cycle? Thanks for the solid info

[jstforme]

Ok, Thanks bro I will do some research on test deca combo. You are not the first person to recommend this. Why is it better to shot more freqently on your first cycle? Thanks for the solid info

i would do test/equipoise, mg for mg it is stonger than deca and has less side effects. i havent tried it yet but its something ive been itching to do. sustanon has 4 blends of testosterone that have different half lifes so its best to use EOD so your test levels dont look like a rollercoaster. but something like enanthate or cypionate you can do inject twice a week and have steady levels.

[BigTom69]

Nice I will look into that.

[BigO]

Your test and deca are too close....Remember 60% & 40%...Either bring your test up to 600 or drop your deca down to 300....Trust me you don't want deca close too your test...The little jewels will stop working unless you throw hcg and then things get complicated....IMO there's nothing better than clomid for PCT...and it's 2 weeks after your last injection...for 3-4weeks

The old stand by is test,deca and d-bol...Just keep the nolva for the gyno if any...You'll know by week 5 if your nipples are affected or not...I personally can't do d-bol because then I have to counter it with nolva and I think it's counter productive....

Save the winny and var for a cutting cycle for lean quality muscle or extend your cycle and do it on the back part of your cycle....

The eq will give you a much better pump than deca but it will also raise your b/p somewhat..Just keep an eye on it...

I personally don't like sus..I prefer cyp or e...The short esters like jstfrme said have you shooting every 2nd or 3rd day...I'd save the daily injections for the water based gear...The idea is to keep your levels as even as possible for the gains...Hope this helps out with a different outlook ...

Good Luck!

[arnold jr]

i would do test/equipoise, mg for mg it is stonger than deca and has less side effects. i havent tried it yet but its something ive been itching to do. sustanon has 4 blends of testosterone that have different half lifes so its best to use EOD so your test levels dont look like a rollercoaster. but something like enanthate or cypionate you can do inject twice a week and have steady levels.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one bro, deca is a far more potent anabolic then EQ. 400mg of deca vs. 400mg of EQ...there is no comparison. To get the same affects of 400mg of deca in EQ you would need to double the dose of EQ to around 800mg aromatase inhibitor

"BigTom69" here are my recomendations

wk 1-12 sust 750mg
wk 1-10 deca 400mg wk
wk 5-10 winny 50mg eod
wk 1-12 arimidex 1mg eod

If your not comfortable with this amount of test, and you want to keep it around 500mg, I would drop the deca all together. If you run your test at 500mg you could run the deca at 200mg wk but in my mind deca under 400mg wk is not realy worth the trouble. Also if you keep your test at 500mg I would go with test-e or cyp, purley on the basis of convenience. But if yo go with the sust yo need to iinject eod and it is just easier to do so at a dose of 750mg a wk or higher.

[jstforme]

equipoise is a relatively mild androgen that has no conversion at the 5AR enzyme, so its not that much more of an androgenic risk compared to deca, but in all other aspects it's a much safer steroid, it doesn't have strong estrogenic effects, nor progestagenic activity. that means it doesn't cause bloat or fat gain and is much less likely to cause gyno, and because of that the gains from boldenone are much leaner. Its also stronger, mg for mg. It doesn't readily re-esterify and due to its lower estrogenic effects, it is not nearly as suppressive of natural testosterone either. That makes the gains off of equipoise not only better, qualitatively speaking, but also much easier to maintain.