Next Cycle

[Cracker]

Whats up fellas and ladies, here is my next cycle:

Weeks 1-6 (Adrol 50mg daily)
Weeks 1-20 (Test Cyp, Stealth 500mg a week)
Weeks 1-20 (EQ, stealth 400mg a week)
Weeks 12-20 (Tren E stealth 225mg a week)
Weeks 14-20 (winny 45mg daily)

wk 23: clomid 100mg Nolva 40mg
wk 24: clomid 50mg Nolva 30mg
wk 25 clomid 50mg Nolva 20mg


I am excited. Any thoughts? Also does it make a difference if i run the tren beganing eight weeks or last eight weeks, I dont think it does.

[JustBecause]

Why such a long cycle?

[Cracker]

Well I guess cause if I could stay on and not come off I would do that:D , but since I cant do that Ill just run for 20 weeks.:D :D

[hismadnessty]

Well I guess cause if I could stay on and not come off I would do that:D , but since I cant do that Ill just run for 20 weeks.:D :D

In the end you may get better results in two 10wk cycles than you will from one 20 wk cycle. Just a thought.

[Cracker]

In the end you may get better results in two 10wk cycles than you will from one 20 wk cycle. Just a thought.

Not talkin down on this at all, but I am curious what the reasoning would be. Can you explain why this would be better cause I feel like since I am going to be running long estered gear that the longer on, the better (i mean to a point). 10 weeks just doesnt seem to do a cycle like this justice. IMO. Open to any thoughts though and all thoughts are appreciated.:)

[Tyrone]

Sorry Cracker but I don't remember all the stats and cycle history not to mention the diet and trainning going on...Can you fill me in once again...:)

[Cracker]

Sorry Cracker but I don't remember all the stats and cycle history not to mention the diet and trainning going on...Can you fill me in once again...:)

I have seriously been getting my diet in check, changed out milks:D . I am eating mostly steak, chicken, brown rice, egg whites with occasionally a yoke or two thrown in, veggies, oatmeal. I am 5'8" 180. 9% bf. I train heavy 5 days a week. This will be my second cycle.....first was

dbol-50mg everday for six weeks
Iranian test e 500mg every week for ten weeks.

I know that alot of guys worry about sides but, I had no probs with last cycle and really am not concerned about sides, if something comes up (sides) then I will deal with it. I was going to just run the test and Eq with the adrol and winny, but got a little excited and ordered up some tren to go with it. Also I was going to run for 16 weeks but as I ordered up 40ml of test and eq I just thought what the hell, might as well use it all and go for the 20. What ya think T?

[drob29]

I have seriously been getting my diet in check, changed out milks:D . I am eating mostly steak, chicken, brown rice, egg whites with occasionally a yoke or two thrown in, veggies, oatmeal. I am 5'8" 180. 9% bf. I train heavy 5 days a week. This will be my second cycle.....first was



I thought that by the time you had 350 posts you would have run more than one cycle..:D ..LOL....I know, thats just a conclusion I reached in my own brain and all, and there is nothing wrong with posting and offering advice.

Personally I think knowing how many cycles a person has run is valuable. Why not update the board so under your name you could list how many cycles you have run? It could be one syringe per cycle, so if you show six syringes you would have run six cycles. Or some other way of listing cycles run?

re: your cycle. no idea. I have only rune one, and it was dbol 40mg 5 wks, test e week 1-11 500mg, and deca week 1-9 400 mg. fantastic cycle. :)

GOOD LUCK

[Cracker]

I thought that by the time you had 350 posts you would have run more than one cycle..:D ..LOL....I know, thats just a conclusion I reached in my own brain and all, and there is nothing wrong with posting and offering advice.

Personally I think knowing how many cycles a person has run is valuable. Why not update the board so under your name you could list how many cycles you have run? It could be one syringe per cycle, so if you show six syringes you would have run six cycles. Or some other way of listing cycles run?

re: your cycle. no idea. I have only rune one, and it was dbol 40mg 5 wks, test e week 1-11 500mg, and deca week 1-9 400 mg. fantastic cycle. :)

GOOD LUCK


Bro I have the post count I do because I practically live here. I read and read and read and read and read. And then I read some more.:D . I only offer advise or suggestions on things that I am knowledgeable about and even though cycle history is low, I feel like I know a ton from all of the reading I do, not only here, but over at PM to. I agree with you, first hand experiance is important, but I also feel that I have learned so much from other peoples first hand experiances that I can effectively give advice in certain areas.;)

Your cycle looks like it was a good one. I am staying away from deca because of the time it is detectable in the body. I am thinking of trying out for my universities football team once I put on a few more pounds and dont wanna wait a year and a half.

[Tyrone]

I have seriously been getting my diet in check, changed out milks:D . I am eating mostly steak, chicken, brown rice, egg whites with occasionally a yoke or two thrown in, veggies, oatmeal. I am 5'8" 180. 9% bf. I train heavy 5 days a week. This will be my second cycle.....first was

dbol-50mg everday for six weeks
Iranian test e 500mg every week for ten weeks.

I know that alot of guys worry about sides but, I had no probs with last cycle and really am not concerned about sides, if something comes up (sides) then I will deal with it. I was going to just run the test and Eq with the adrol and winny, but got a little excited and ordered up some tren to go with it. Also I was going to run for 16 weeks but as I ordered up 40ml of test and eq I just thought what the hell, might as well use it all and go for the 20. What ya think T?

I would just add 2% or nonfat milk and add some broccoli for fiber with the amount of meat you need to eat...Also I would save the tren for later use and just run the test/eq. with the adrol...Also run a tiny bit of tren ace before next cycle to see sides of tren...mine are minimal in my mind but maybe I don't see everything LOL...

[k1*]

Whats up fellas and ladies, here is my next cycle:

Weeks 1-6 (Adrol 50mg daily) Leave the same
Weeks 1-20 (Test Cyp, Stealth 500mg a week) Drop to only 14wks
Weeks 1-20 (EQ, stealth 400mg a week) Drop to only 12wks
Weeks 12-20 (Tren E stealth 225mg a week) Really not needed (and is much better to start with Tren Ace when starting with Tren-just incase sides are too much to handle), if you insist, run from wk7-14
Weeks 14-20 (winny 45mg daily) Run wk9-14

wk 23: clomid 100mg Nolva 40mg
wk 24: clomid 50mg Nolva 30mg
wk 25 clomid 50mg Nolva 20mg


I am excited. Any thoughts? Also does it make a difference if i run the tren beganing eight weeks or last eight weeks, I dont think it does.

This is only your second cycle so this is much too much. Overkill bro, not needed to gain great results!! Suggestions in red.............

[Tyrone]

This is only your second cycle so this is much too much. Overkill bro, not needed to gain great results!! Suggestions in red.............

Bump for the first perfect cycle!!!

[Cracker]

Ok, I will shorten it up a bit. Im thinkin I will run it 15 weeks because this is an even amount from the sachets, 30ml instead of 14 weeks at 28ml. that way I finish off a full sachet. I will obey:D and not run the tren as i know you guys are right, this is probably overkill for myself. I had just gotten a little excited when I ordered and, well, I guess I will get to save it for a later date. Thanks for the imput, as always :) . I always appriciate it!

[tsk4life]

I have seriously been getting my diet in check, changed out milks:D . I am eating mostly steak, chicken, brown rice, egg whites with occasionally a yoke or two thrown in, veggies, oatmeal. I am 5'8" 180. 9% bf. I train heavy 5 days a week. This will be my second cycle.....first was


Im not worried about the sides on you in the slightest, more power too you running it for 20 weeks, but I would recommend 16 tops personally... im just trying to figure out why your eating egg whites... eat the whole damn egg! I swear I will never understand peoples reasoning with egg white... it makes not fucking sense to me. All of the best shit is in the yolk:mad:

[Cracker]

Im not worried about the sides on you in the slightest, more power too you running it for 20 weeks, but I would recommend 16 tops personally... im just trying to figure out why your eating egg whites... eat the whole damn egg! I swear I will never understand peoples reasoning with egg white... it makes not fucking sense to me. All of the best shit is in the yolk:mad:

Bod I cant tell if you were being sarcastic when you said you werent worried about the sides on me. But if you werent then why would you not be worried bro. I am thinking that maybe what you mean is that some may be more prone to sides than others. I hear so much back and forth on eggs, fuck it I'm just gonna stop eatin them :D :D J/K. I like em to much. To yolk or not to yolk, that is the question....LOL

[tsk4life]

Bod I cant tell if you were being sarcastic when you said you werent worried about the sides on me. But if you werent then why would you not be worried bro. I am thinking that maybe what you mean is that some may be more prone to sides than others. I hear so much back and forth on eggs, fuck it I'm just gonna stop eatin them :D :D J/K. I like em to much. To yolk or not to yolk, that is the question....LOL
Im really not being sarcastic... I like 14-16 weeks cycles and I am personally not prone to sides... I dont seem to lose hair, get bitch tits, acne or hell really anything at all... I just get bigger. Its nice, if you had no issues with a-drol and enan than you should really have many issues with test or a-drol agin.. my main concern would be how the tren mixes with the test... I perfer to keep the test lower if im taking tren because high test + high tren equals weird dreams, weird mentality and just all together odd sides. Ive found that when test is lower there are less sides with the tren, even if the tren is at higher doses.

[Cracker]

Im really not being sarcastic... I like 14-16 weeks cycles and I am personally not prone to sides... I dont seem to lose hair, get bitch tits, acne or hell really anything at all... I just get bigger. Its nice, if you had no issues with a-drol and enan than you should really have many issues with test or a-drol agin.. my main concern would be how the tren mixes with the test... I perfer to keep the test lower if im taking tren because high test + high tren equals weird dreams, weird mentality and just all together odd sides. Ive found that when test is lower there are less sides with the tren, even if the tren is at higher doses.

Thanks for the tip!

[Tyrone]

Im really not being sarcastic... I like 14-16 weeks cycles and I am personally not prone to sides... I dont seem to lose hair, get bitch tits, acne or hell really anything at all... I just get bigger. Its nice, if you had no issues with a-drol and enan than you should really have many issues with test or a-drol agin.. my main concern would be how the tren mixes with the test... I perfer to keep the test lower if im taking tren because high test + high tren equals weird dreams, weird mentality and just all together odd sides. Ive found that when test is lower there are less sides with the tren, even if the tren is at higher doses.

How high is high test with Tren...I did about 600mgs. test with about 300-400mgs. of tren a wk...I might not even notice a mind fuck cause I think I've been on one all my life lol:eek:

[tsk4life]

we perfer to just call you metally challenged Tyrone ;)

[tsk4life]

Bod I cant tell if you were being sarcastic when you said you werent worried about the sides on me. But if you werent then why would you not be worried bro. I am thinking that maybe what you mean is that some may be more prone to sides than others. I hear so much back and forth on eggs, fuck it I'm just gonna stop eatin them :D :D J/K. I like em to much. To yolk or not to yolk, that is the question....LOL
Yolk is the answer

[Tyrone]

we perfer to just call you metally challenged Tyrone ;)

If the GF is with me for another week or 2 I'm way lucky or the best BSer there is cause she just walked out slammin the door and tearring off...She knows I'm ughhh challenged and she hates me right now but whatchya gonna do...

[HILL]

to be honest i think its a little over kill for a second cycle.

How much weight did you gain off your first cycle and how good did you think it went??

Going from 2 products to 5 is a bit mkuch straight away i would suggest doing the same as your first cycle and maybe adding in a bit of eq. I would also suggest running the cycle for say 12 weeks 14 at a push to see how you find it.

You are right in that their is nothing wrong with doing a cycle for 20 weeks. I did a low dose sust cycle for 30 weeks with good cutting results last year/early this year. My only problem was then trying to stay off for 30 weeks it was a killer so im limiting my cycles to 12 weeks for the time being.

Just a thought and good luck with what ever you choose to do

[JW]

HCG in the middle to keep the nuts going.
50mg Clomid ED-the Whole thing if you can.
A-50 8 Weeks If you Can
See below:

Weeks 1-8 (Adrol 50mg daily)
Weeks 1-20 (Test Cyp, Stealth 500mg a week, clomid 50mg Daily)
Weeks 10-12 500IU HCG Every Days Day 1,5,10, & 15.
Weeks 1-20 (EQ, stealth 400mg a week)
Weeks 12-20 (Tren E stealth 225mg a week)
Weeks 14-20 (winny 45mg daily)

wk 23: clomid 100mg Nolva 40mg
wk 24: clomid 50mg Nolva 30mg
wk 25 clomid 50mg Nolva 20mg

Looks pretty good to me.

[Cracker]

I dont understand why people think that more is always better...and this is only your second cycle? All you are doing is increasing your chance of significant side effects...not to mention a difficult recovery. 3wks will not be enough of a PCT with a 20wk cycle. You can get the same gains with much less sides with a simple test prop/npp (or tren)/winny cycle. You really should seek some guidance from those in the know.

First of all, I am not looking to cut. Second of all what the fuck do you think this thread was about. Me asking questions (fucking idiot). Third of all, since you are so "in the know" wheres your knowledge? Never once did I say " ohh,, more must be better""" . Side effects were addressed in this thread, so maybe you should get in know of what the fuck is really going on before you make your "educated post"

[alan1973]

Im really not being sarcastic... I like 14-16 weeks cycles and I am personally not prone to sides... I dont seem to lose hair, get bitch tits, acne or hell really anything at all... I just get bigger. Its nice, if you had no issues with a-drol and enan than you should really have many issues with test or a-drol agin.. my main concern would be how the tren mixes with the test... I perfer to keep the test lower if im taking tren because high test + high tren equals weird dreams, weird mentality and just all together odd sides. Ive found that when test is lower there are less sides with the tren, even if the tren is at higher doses.

I looked at the thread only cause I wanted to know who would do a 20wk cycle...then I read what you said about dreams. I am taking TestE and Tren and Deca and I had a dream that I was trying to kill my wife.....I have never had a dream like that even when I want to kill her (figuratively speaking of course). So, I was right, it had to be the AAS.

[Tyrone]

I looked at the thread only cause I wanted to know who would do a 20wk cycle...then I read what you said about dreams. I am taking TestE and Tren and Deca and I had a dream that I was trying to kill my wife.....I have never had a dream like that even when I want to kill her (figuratively speaking of course). So, I was right, it had to be the AAS.

"I had a dream a hamburger was eating meee!"...Jerry Seinfeld

Sorry, I just had to...but you're right it can give ya some crazy dreams...

[Cracker]

I looked at the thread only cause I wanted to know who would do a 20wk cycle...then I read what you said about dreams. I am taking TestE and Tren and Deca and I had a dream that I was trying to kill my wife.....I have never had a dream like that even when I want to kill her (figuratively speaking of course). So, I was right, it had to be the AAS.

Good Thing you woke up. :D