Ready for first injectable cycle

[JohnnyPro]

ok so I've messed around with d-bol and var and now I am ready for my first real cycle. What would you recommend? I am 51 years old, 5'8", 185 lbs bodyfat is around 13 percent or so. Goals would be to add mass. Thanks.

[JustBecause]

ok so I've messed around with d-bol and var and now I am ready for my first real cycle. What would you recommend? I am 51 years old, 5'8", 185 lbs bodyfat is around 13 percent or so. Goals would be to add mass. Thanks.


For the ease it... you could try one of Alin's newbie cycles... already planned, all you gotta do is get it!!

[Tyrone]

For the ease it... you could try one of Alin's newbie cycles... already planned, all you gotta do is get it!!
Bump JustBecause...I say a test only cycle maybe with some dbol to start...look up kawasaki1's suggestions to many other first cycle bros...

Edit: Here's what he and others would suggest...

wk1-10 Test Enan 500mg/wk
wk1-5 Dbol 30mg/ed
pct:
wk13 Clomid 100mg-Nolva 40mg/ed
wk14 Clomid 50mg-Nolva 30mg/ed
wk15 Clomid 50mg-Nolva 20mg/ed

[jtat326]

Bump that. you should come off of that at 200 lbs keepable. Good luck.

[k1*]

Bump JustBecause...I say a test only cycle maybe with some dbol to start...look up kawasaki1's suggestions to many other first cycle bros...

Edit: Here's what he and others would suggest...

wk1-10 Test Enan 500mg/wk
wk1-5 Dbol 30mg/ed
pct:
wk13 Clomid 100mg-Nolva 40mg/ed
wk14 Clomid 50mg-Nolva 30mg/ed
wk15 Clomid 50mg-Nolva 20mg/ed
Bump my bro, Tyrone,,,Best damn first cycle there is!!!!

[JohnnyPro]

thanks guys

[Tyrone]

Bump my bro, Tyrone,,,Best damn first cycle there is!!!!
LOL I never had it saved or anything and kinda had it memorized but I went back and copied/pasted you cycle for first timer...Hope you don't care if I do save it and suggest for healthy first timers...

[jrmuscle]

my first inj cylcle was test and dbol gained 40 lbs and kept 25 of it

[k1*]

LOL I never had it saved or anything and kinda had it memorized but I went back and copied/pasted you cycle for first timer...Hope you don't care if I do save it and suggest for healthy first timers...
No problem bro, anytime :)

[drob29]

Bump my bro, Tyrone,,,Best damn first cycle there is!!!!

I added deca 400 mg (split twice a week) and had great results :)

[sami72]

LOL @pro
the pic in ur profile weight 185IBs?

ok so I've messed around with d-bol and var and now I am ready for my first real cycle. What would you recommend? I am 51 years old, 5'8", 185 lbs bodyfat is around 13 percent or so. Goals would be to add mass. Thanks.

[IronBod]

ok so I've messed around with d-bol and var and now I am ready for my first real cycle. What would you recommend? I am 51 years old, 5'8", 185 lbs bodyfat is around 13 percent or so. Goals would be to add mass. Thanks.

Well all i can say is if you are married get ready for the fun to begin. lol
Nothing like first cycle of injectable test. I did my first cycle of test at
34. Damn not even when i was 18 did i have a sexual drive like that. lol

[JustBecause]

ok so I've messed around with d-bol and var and now I am ready for my first real cycle. What would you recommend? I am 51 years old, 5'8", 185 lbs bodyfat is around 13 percent or so. Goals would be to add mass. Thanks.

So JohnnyPro... have you decided what you are going to do yet?

[JohnnyPro]

Well all i can say is if you are married get ready for the fun to begin. lol
Nothing like first cycle of injectable test. I did my first cycle of test at
34. Damn not even when i was 18 did i have a sexual drive like that. lol


No not married, I'd better look for a horny girlfriend I guess....

[JohnnyPro]

So JohnnyPro... have you decided what you are going to do yet?


Yes, I believe I will do Test Enanthate by itself at 400 to 500 mgs per week. I think I will keep it simple. What do you think?

[JustBecause]

Yes, I believe I will do Test Enanthate by itself at 400 to 500 mgs per week. I think I will keep it simple. What do you think?

Yeah... that's cool :cool:

[C-man]

One thing-

At 51 when was your last blood test?

how were your readings?

You are probably about ready for TRT anyway so that could change your PCT

Just some thoughts, C-man

[JohnnyPro]

One thing-

At 51 when was your last blood test?

how were your readings?

You are probably about ready for TRT anyway so that could change your PCT

Just some thoughts, C-man


Last blood test showed fairly high cholesterol levels, I am now taking medication for it. Also thyroid was not producing enough hormone, so I am taking medication for it too. Other than that everything was ok. This was maybe 4 or 5 months ago. How would TRT change my PCT? Thanks for your input.

[C-man]

Long story, but the body is a constant balance of many hormones...

I suggest you do some reading about TRT

I am not an Endo. Even most regular dodctor do not understand it.

TRT is a GOOD THING if you need it!

Then you never really come off cycle so PCT is totally different as you are not then trying to restart natural test levels again, you are relying on externial test injections just at a lower dose than on cycle.

Also at your age your levels could be too low to keep gains after
PCT

The blood test should have your test level, I am only guessing without it.

Hope this helps. C-man

[sami72]

Any progress or muscle gain, johnnypro? LOL

[Cracker]

Bump that. you should come off of that at 200 lbs keepable. Good luck.

Holy Crap bro 200lbs from a cycle of test :D sweet sign me up LOL. I know I know, I am sure there was an extra zero added by accident, I just though it was funny. Can you imagine a cycle that you could gain 200lbs from :)

[JohnnyPro]

Any progress or muscle gain, johnnypro? LOL

Still doing pct from last cycle. Have to wait a while before I start the test E. But I made good progress with the last cycle.

[JohnnyPro]

Holy Crap bro 200lbs from a cycle of test :D sweet sign me up LOL. I know I know, I am sure there was an extra zero added by accident, I just though it was funny. Can you imagine a cycle that you could gain 200lbs from :)


No, I think he meant that my weight would be 200 lbs. by the end of the cycle.

[Cracker]

No, I think he meant that my weight would be 200 lbs. by the end of the cycle.

Oh well, it still made me laugh.

[sami72]

Johnnypro, how many pounds have u put on in your last cycle? LOL
Did you experience some sides that's why u doing pct? Just curious..LOL!
Currently I'm getting only strenght but no size making me thinking of $700 stack in my second cycle.

Still doing pct from last cycle. Have to wait a while before I start the test E. But I made good progress with the last cycle.

[JohnnyPro]

Johnnypro, how many pounds have u put on in your last cycle? LOL
Did you experience some sides that's why u doing pct? Just curious..LOL!
Currently I'm getting only strenght but no size making me thinking of $700 stack in my second cycle.


Gained about 20 pounds but not all muscle, I was eating a lot to make sure I got plenty of nutrients and overdid it a bit. But I did gain some muscle and my strength went through the roof. I am retaining all the strength too, in fact I'm still getting stronger and I finished the cycle over 2 weeks ago. I didn't have any sides at all but I am doing pct to get natural test levels back up asap. I am getting depressed lately probably due to the clomid. I heard it does that sometimes. Anavar isn't that great for muscle size but it does help much better than any legal supplement. Can't wait for the test cycle!

[sami72]

LOL... do u have before and after pics....if not try to consider that for your next cycle... as u know what they say pics don't lie ...LOL

good luck 2 u

Gained about 20 pounds but not all muscle, I was eating a lot to make sure I got plenty of nutrients and overdid it a bit. But I did gain some muscle and my strength went through the roof. I am retaining all the strength too, in fact I'm still getting stronger and I finished the cycle over 2 weeks ago. I didn't have any sides at all but I am doing pct to get natural test levels back up asap. I am getting depressed lately probably due to the clomid. I heard it does that sometimes. Anavar isn't that great for muscle size but it does help much better than any legal supplement. Can't wait for the test cycle!