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bige
10-08-2005, 05:19 AM
i need to drop 35lbs,i know what i shove in my mouth is key.i've ran clen in the past alt. with e/c/a with success.is it safe to add t-3 without screwing up my metabolism? if so how should it be taken?should i run test prop. & tren?i've heard tren helps burn fat...does it or just the fact that more muscle burns more calories.
any advice would be appreciated!

big49ersfan
10-08-2005, 07:00 PM
how heay are you??

food and cv is key not t3, clen, eca, tren

if you run t3 with prop (eod 100mg) for 8 weeks have protein intake at around 400g it should avoid catabolism.

here is protocol laid out on another board should be helpful

Days 1,2: 50mcgs
Days 3,4: 75mcgs
Days 5-18: 100 - 125mcgs
And HERE IS THE CRITICAL STAGE:
The SLOW taper. This is CRITICAL so that TSH levels
are allowed to adapt to the dosage so that there is no crash.
Days 19-22 : 125mcgs (or 100 depends on your max)
Days 23-26 : 100mcgs
Days 27-30: 75mcgs
Days 31-34: 50mcgs
Now, SUPER-SLOW(TSH will be VERY sensitive to ANY T3 now)
Days 35-41 : 37.5mcgs
Days 42-48 : 25 mcgs
Days 49-56 : 12.5 mcgs


it is very very important it is in fact absoulutely crutial you do not miss a day or take the wrong dose, it is imperative if you do you stand a change of screwing up your thyroid.

due to the prop you will need to run pct from about 4 days after last injection/

bigmeat
10-08-2005, 10:19 PM
are those t3 dosages split thru out the day or taken all at once as they increase?

Matti
10-09-2005, 01:21 AM
Here is what I use to really get rid of unwanted fat quick.

Week 1-2

Trenbalone @ 80mg ED
Winstrol Depot @ 50mg ED
Primobolon @ 300mg a week
Anavar @ 30-45mg a day

7:30 AM:
2.5mg of Femara
60mcg of Clenbuterol upon
50mcg of Cytomel
1 tab of Yohimbine (15mg pure alkaloids) around 30min after the Clen

before 2-4 pm.
60mcg of Clenbuterol
25mcg of Cytomel
1 tab of Yohimbine around 30min after the Clen

**2000mg of Metformin spread through out the day

Weeks 3-4
Same as the previous weeks, but switch the Clen with ECA, if you want to you can also increase the Nolvadex to 40mg a day.

Weeks 5-6
Drop the ECA and the Yohimbine, and taper down the dosage of T-3 by 25mcg each week, you can keep the Metformin the same or drop it if you want.

Weeks 7-10

Stay off all the drugs and keep your calories the same or slightly increase your carb intake (if you are on low carbs) to aid in your metabolism. During these weeks your metabolism will be sluggish, so watch your diet and keep up with your cardio, the diet isn't over yet.

Good Article on Fat Loss:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jon4.htm

big49ersfan
10-09-2005, 07:20 AM
ye split them depends on the tabs as if you get 25mcg then for 12.5 and 25 dont and then nething above just split morning and evening.

Beetlejuice
10-09-2005, 10:47 AM
I don't know if I would reccommend t3.

I am going to try a 10 week cycle of

sustanon 250 1 amp (250 mg) per week X10
winstrol depot 1 amp (50 mg) eod 10 weeks
parabolan (trenbolone) 1 amp (200 mg) per week x 10 wks
Nolvadex 10 mg day during cycle
end with clomid after cycle

This should burn fat add mass and keep off water. With a high protien diet of fish and foul, steamed vegatables and lots of whole grains. That should eat the fat right off your ass. :)

phatmole
10-09-2005, 12:53 PM
ye split them depends on the tabs as if you get 25mcg then for 12.5 and 25 dont and then nething above just split morning and evening.

totally agree bro :D

- t3 shouldn't hurt your metabolism as long as you taper it. and make sure you are taking gear while on coz t3 alone will eat fat, but it'll eat your muscle too.

DNP is the stuff that won't eat your muscle while burning pounds of fat - daily! - but that's a last resort kind of thing

big49ersfan
10-09-2005, 08:37 PM
dnp will kill you the risks totally ouway the benfits a good diet, cv, t3 and clen/eca with tren/test for 8 weeks antie's and then winny or anavar would be alot better and safer than dnp.

id consider suing 3months of GH b4 DNP being in great shape just isnt worth the risk of dying

big49ersfan
10-09-2005, 08:40 PM
bettlejuice 10 weeks of winny @ 50mg eod i can here my joints squeak i know that the test will give some protection but your using an anti-e whcih will get rid of water that could protect your joints.

just hurt some stories of using winny long term on joints nevermind the liver hich im sure yo know about.

bigmeat
10-09-2005, 09:55 PM
thanks for the article and lay outs....if i took clen with the t3, wouldnt that help with the catabolism? i wanted to wait till bout feb to run test.

Matti
10-10-2005, 01:26 AM
bettlejuice 10 weeks of winny @ 50mg eod i can here my joints squeak i know that the test will give some protection but your using an anti-e whcih will get rid of water that could protect your joints.

just hurt some stories of using winny long term on joints nevermind the liver hich im sure yo know about.

Alin has a product for this that works very well, and also actually protects joints, tendons, ligaments, not just give relief to them. its called Aflutop:

Alflutop (joint relief) is made in **************, Russia, and a few other countries in
Eastern Europe. It is different than Adequan, but gives the
same kind of results as Adequan and it is specifically made
for humans to use.

You cn order it from Alins Shop[

Company Info:

http://www.biotehnos.com/alflutopE.htm

phatmole
10-10-2005, 06:51 AM
clen won't stop you losing mass on t3, but it does work nicely with it.

Beetlejuice
10-10-2005, 09:41 AM
bettlejuice 10 weeks of winny @ 50mg eod i can here my joints squeak i know that the test will give some protection but your using an anti-e whcih will get rid of water that could protect your joints.

just hurt some stories of using winny long term on joints nevermind the liver hich im sure yo know about.

The Winstrol Depot isnt hard on the liver like the pills. Now I know that it could cause a little squeaky joint, but parabolan seems to counterbalance the winny, and add sustanon for mass it will be fine. If the 10 weeks bothers you then move the injections to every day and then you will be done in 5 weeks with the winstrol.

Hebo44
10-20-2005, 12:20 PM
Seems nuts but 50 mg of t3 and eca for two weeks then clen two days on two off ripped me up serious. then Repeat
But I Really didnt half ass on my diet keep the carbs low.
If your using the t3 you have to have the anogrens high or you will shrik big time!

maxlove
02-26-2008, 06:16 PM
Hi. I am planning on taking T3 for fat loss.

Currently getting in 1.5 pounds of good protein per pound of body weight.
My diet is strict.

Doing Cardio 5 days a week on average 1.5 hrs a day.
Doing the expected gym work.

And I'll be doing a stack to combine with my T3 to avoid muscle loss.
Will be on a reasonable stack of A.S. for total of 6 weeks.

Clomid (for when coming off)
Off for 6 weeks

I am curious to know if the below is acceptable to sustain decent enough
fat loss. Thanks in advance.

Cytomel

Wk1 25mcg x 7days

Wk2 50mcg x 7days

Wk3 50mcg x 7days

Wk4 25mcg x 7days

Wk5 12.5mcg x 7days

Wk6 12.5mcg x 7days

Max