Supertest 450

[Joedg39]

Im 2 weeks into my cycle using st450 and many other goodies anyways the st450 hurts like a motha the next day and i tell ya being an Ironworker up on the iron with a stiff painful leg is no joke anyways ive read that if you dilute it with sterile lab oil the pain will be gone does anyone know if that is true and how much to use in a 50cc jug? alittle help :confused: :confused:

[Bucket]

You can dilute it with steril oil. Just mix it half and half in the pin. So if you are shooting 1 cc then add 1cc of steril oil with it, but whatever you do, do not dump the oil or mix it in the jug or vial, just the pin.

[Joedg39]

thanks, ive also been up all night doing research

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[Gregalmighty]

I replied to your PM before i read this thread and the other guys are exactly right. I do the same with ST&EQ. Never dump chemicals together cuz you will not get a consistent dose each time.

[BigO]

I've used Denkall products before and most of them were very painfull...I'm thinking it was the super test....I even tried to split the injections up into smaller ones and mixed it with deca,eq and it still hurt...I'm not sure about the ba content I was thinking it was too low..IMO

[White Knight]

...I'm not sure about the ba content I was thinking it was too low..IMO

BA being too high would more likely be a culprit IMO...

WK

[mickeymbbc]

whatever you do, do not dump the oil or mix it in the jug or vial, just the pin.


Make sure that you follow the protocol that Bucket gave you(don not mix)

It looks like you received solid advice from everyone brutha,


-mick

[riverat42000]

Im 2 weeks into my cycle using st450 and many other goodies anyways the st450 hurts like a motha the next day and i tell ya being an Ironworker up on the iron with a stiff painful leg is no joke anyways ive read that if you dilute it with sterile lab oil the pain will be gone does anyone know if that is true and how much to use in a 50cc jug? alittle help :confused: :confused:
I've read that grape seed oil is a good oil to use.....don't know where you get it though. I have never seen it anywhere on the net. just water for hcg and the like. I just got some 450 myself and was getting ready to start on it. I hope its not too bad.......can't be any more painful than the ip sust.....i hope.

[Gregalmighty]

Local 508 Ironworker myself.Welcome joe.....Steel sux but the union pay is ok. Im finishing this one @ 13 weeks.. 11 weeks in and the steel job is a motherf@cker. I feel ya bro. This is the first time I want off cycle cuz the pumps are insane!! I'm a rock before lunch and I feel like a machine the rest of the day!! I work the mill and lift steel 6 days 10 hours till july this year.. Moneys ok but the stress on the body is painful. I should invest in motrin stock!!! PM me with details :D

[sikdogg]

I've said it before and i'll say it again... the purpose of high concentration gear is so you can inject more gear with smaller injection volume... if you cut it by adding a cc of oil for every cc of gear, then just defeated the purpose of high concentratration gear. In fact, you've taken a step back cuz now you're only getting 450mg of test per 2cc's versus 500mg of test if you injected 2cc's if test E or something similar. JMO...

The only way to get painless high concentration gear is to make it yourself. This way you can control how much BA and BB you use. I've made test at 500mg/ml and it was virtually painfree.

[sikdogg]

I'd also like to add that i'm just not a big fan of blends like sust or ST450. The short esters in them require you to inject frequently. Susp requires ED injections, prop requires ED or EOD, and Cyp/Enan requires once or twice a week injections. The only way to take advantange of all the esters throughout the cycle is to inject based on the shortest ester, in this case suspension. This means that the best way to dose ST450 is to inject a small volume ED. What a waste... if you really want to inject ED, you will get better results if you went with straight suspension or prop. If you want to inject only once or trice a week then stick with cyp or enen. You'll get more bang for the buck that way. Again, JMO...

[Joedg39]

Local #378 here ,just to give update on ST450 THE PAIN GOES AWAY THE MORE YOU USE IT IM ON 4TH WEEK AND I DO NOT HAVE THE PAIN THE NEXT DAY ANYMORE MY BODY HAS GOTTEN USED TO IT AND IM GETTING AWESOME GAINS !!!!!! :eek:

[moose11]

I've said it before and i'll say it again... the purpose of high concentration gear is so you can inject more gear with smaller injection volume... if you cut it by adding a cc of oil for every cc of gear, then just defeated the purpose of high concentratration gear. In fact, you've taken a step back cuz now you're only getting 450mg of test per 2cc's versus 500mg of test if you injected 2cc's if test E or something similar. JMO...

The only way to get painless high concentration gear is to make it yourself. This way you can control how much BA and BB you use. I've made test at 500mg/ml and it was virtually painfree.

I agree...also, just bake it...let some of the BA cookoff. I just got some ST450 on 2nd shot no pain but i filtered and baked it.

[Gregalmighty]

Yeas joe after a couple weeks the pain does subside. Thankfully! Glad to hear its going well.

G
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