Will this work?

[rugbyholy]

I am looking at takeing some Winny 50mg tabs with some 50mg primo tabs to gain some hardness and cut up a little will this work? I plan on 8 weeks of winny everyday and the Primo every other day. I am 5'10 and weigh in around 260 ish with 15% body fat. So I do not want to get any bigger just harden up. Any input would help. Thx

[mickeymbbc]

That is alot of orals big brutha,(pretty hard on your liver) If I were you I would invest in some anavar. Anavar is far better and 100% safer on your liver, plus you will yield even better results, even running it by itself. In the long run the winni will dry out your joints and you will not be happy camper at all, if you know what I mean....


-mick

[rugbyholy]

Thx I will look into the Anavar I will have to do some research on it. I have only ever used winny and test susp, so it hard for me to break my habits I guess LOL. Thx for the info Mick

[rugbyholy]

If I go with the anavar what would be the dosage say if I went the 15mg Ip china route. I would plan on going on it for 10 weeks, so how many tabs a dat would that be for best results? Also what is the best thing to stack with it for lean hard muscle thx for any input!!

[mickeymbbc]

30mg ED would be fine for ya brutha, especaily since you never ran it before.(2 tbs ed, if they are 15mg a piece) Things to stack with it...........HMMMMMMMMMM

PROP
WINNI
EQ
MASTERONE(MY FAVORITE:))
TURNIBAL
PRIMO.THE LIST GOES ON:)



-MICK

[mickeymbbc]

I have only ever used winny and test susp, so it hard for me to break my habits I guess LOL. Thx for the info Mick

YOU NEED TO GET OUT MORE BRUTHA :D :D THERE IS ALOT OF GOOD GEAR OUT THERE.



-MICK

[Beetlejuice]

If you wanna get harder, then Tren is DA SHIT! Tren and winny. It doesnt get much better than that. Throw in a Oral TBOL and you will be born again hard. 300 mg of tren a week with 100 mg winny depot every other day, maybe 50 mg of oral TBOL a day (cuz ur a big boy at 260). With the right diet you could look like a freak of nature at 260lbs.

[mickeymbbc]

Agreed!! Tren is good brutha, but I wouldn't stare him straight to tren so early in the game?!@# You or I might be able to handle that, but I wouldn't expose him to tren yet, he sounds kind of new to certain gear...TREN AIN'T NO GAME........... GOOD CHOICE THOUGH BETTLEJUICE:)


-MICK

[rugbyholy]

I have played with tren before a friend of mine made it from some gear he had left over. He is a vet and said that he new what he was doing LOL wrong there I took the stuff with some UpJohn V and some old school Univet test Susp and man all I wanted to do was puke it made me real sick to the guts. Is that normal for tren? I will really look into that anavar and Masteron since I have never used them before they should really jump on my receptors.

And your right Mick I am old school shut in but with a buddie for a vet I had to go for the easy score LOL. But now since I found this site it is like a fat kid in a candie store. I might even try and break the 270 mark cut. My best I came in as a amature was 239 at around 4%BF and thats was just using winny and test now my options are unlimited!!LOL this is great

[Beetlejuice]

Thanks Mick!

Tren is harsh eneough RugbyHoly, I wouldnt dream of taking vet grade tren! Yuck! I like British Dragon.

[mickeymbbc]

I have played with tren before a friend of mine made it from some gear he had left over. He is a vet and said that he new what he was doing LOL wrong there I took the stuff with some UpJohn V and some old school Univet test Susp and man all I wanted to do was puke it made me real sick to the guts. Is that normal for tren= it depends, tren can have some nasty sides though? I will really look into that anavar and Masteron since I have never used them before they should really jump on my receptors. YOU GOT THAT RIGHT:)

And your right Mick I am old school shut in but with a buddie for a vet I had to go for the easy score LOL. But now since I found this site it is like a fat kid in a candie store. I might even try and break the 270 mark cut. My best I came in as a amature was 239 at around 4%BF THATS AWSUME BIG BRO and thats was just using winny and test now my options are unlimited!!LOL this is great

Have fun shopping brutha, I AM ALWAYS HERE IF YA NEED SOME OPPINIONS:)


-MICK

[rugbyholy]

I looked at the Anavar like mick suggested and it is al ittle pricey for me at this time of year so I thought I would go try this combo out first to harden up and cut down a little.

TRINABOL (Tri-Trenabol)150mg/ml, 10 ml vial by British Dragon= 300 mg a week for 10 weeks

and WINSTROL (Stanabol) British Dragon 50mg 1 tab ED for 10 weeks.

This should harden me up but again if anybody sees any flaws with my thinking please feel free to throw your two cents in. Information is power and the more you have the more power you get.

Again if you need my stats they are 30 age, 5'10 ,260,15%Bf. I just want to harden up and lose so BF.

Any input welcome!! Thx

[mickeymbbc]

Some how I new that you were going to say that about var(most do:)) And I also new that you were going to write about wanting to do tren to. Well....I wish you the best.......you will definately get strong as hell with that combination, but your kidney's are going to take a beaten on the tren(I hope that you are going to drink about 2 gallons of water a day, because you piss will turn orange.)

Thats too long for the winni!@#

and thats a little too long for the tren!@#

One is going to kill your liver because of the length that you are running it, along with you dried out joints and the other is going to kill your kidneys with the legth that you are running it.

I think that you should run something different that winni with the tren, and cut th tren down a little.



-mick

[mickeymbbc]

I looked at the Anavar like mick suggested and it is al ittle pricey for me at this time of year so I thought I would go try this combo out first to harden up and cut down a little.

TRINABOL (Tri-Trenabol)150mg/ml, 10 ml vial by British Dragon= 300 mg a week for 10 weeks

and WINSTROL (Stanabol) British Dragon 50mg 1 tab ED for 10 weeks.

This should harden me up but again if anybody sees any flaws with my thinking please feel free to throw your two cents in. Information is power and the more you have the more power you get.

Again if you need my stats they are 30 age, 5'10 ,260,15%Bf. I just want to harden up and lose so BF.

Any input welcome!! Thx

Here is exmple of how I ran it when I did what you want to do.

wks 1 - 12 - 600mg equipose weekly
wks 5 - 12 - 300mg tren enanthate weekly
wks 9 - 14 - 50mg winny ED ( oral )

wks 1 - 15 - .5mg liquidex EOD
wks 1 - 15 - 50mg proviron ED

PCT starts wk 16 - 18.




-mick

[Beetlejuice]

I looked at the Anavar like mick suggested and it is al ittle pricey for me at this time of year so I thought I would go try this combo out first to harden up and cut down a little.

TRINABOL (Tri-Trenabol)150mg/ml, 10 ml vial by British Dragon= 300 mg a week for 10 weeks

and WINSTROL (Stanabol) British Dragon 50mg 1 tab ED for 10 weeks.

This should harden me up but again if anybody sees any flaws with my thinking please feel free to throw your two cents in. Information is power and the more you have the more power you get.

Again if you need my stats they are 30 age, 5'10 ,260,15%Bf. I just want to harden up and lose so BF.

Any input welcome!! Thx

Rugby you better listen to Mickey about the Tren. I like it but I won't run it or winny more than 6 weeks together. Add some Oral Turanobol with that and take LIV 52 and milk thistle while on this cycle. Do not drink coffee, or soda. Drink water only[U] because you are gonna need it. Mickey is a good guy and very smart. If he starts telling you to be careful you better be careful. Well good luck.

[rugbyholy]

Mick the way you set up your cut down cycle is exactly the way I am going to run mine. If I have learned one thing over the years is to follow a warning and take great advice when it is handed out. Thx Mick I will let you know how it goes.

Plus I should ease myself into this new stuff because when it comes to all this new gear I am a novice. Thx again to beetle and mick for the great info!!

[rugbyholy]

WINSTROL (Stanabol) British Dragon 50mg
- Size 50 tabs

TRENABOL 200mg/ml, 10 ml vial by BritishDragon times 2

EQUIPOISE (Boldabol) 200mg/ml, 10ml vial by British Dragon times 4

This should be enough to cover the first part if the cycle mick but where can I find liquidex and proviron for the last couple of weeks I checked alins site and he did not have these?

[mickeymbbc]

Give me PM



-MICK