Starting Synthetek Synthelesn

[hooker]

I'll let you guys know how it works for me...

Did my first shot this morning.

[jstforme]

what is that? did i search on it and closest thing it came up with was cosmetic chemicals

[jstforme]

nevermind, found the site, when you said "Synthelesn" you meant syntheselen right? i couldnt find the product that you said but i fould this one, umm you said you were injecting this stuff!? it does say in big letters oral use only, i might would want to stop those injections if i were you

[hooker]

It's available at www.synthetek.com I believe...

I am using it with Boldenone Base and Test prop...and the weirdest thing is that when I shoot the Bold Base and Test prop (1.5mls total), I'm sore for 2-3 days....when I mixed in 1.5mls of Syntheselen, I didn't get sore at all! But using b-12 for that same purpose barely helped me....

Weird...

[jstforme]

did someone tell you that injecting that was okay? you havent answered my question as to why you would inject an oral product. ya know sometimes i get very sore the next day and sometimes never, its just the luck of the drawl i think, even with massaging it in. just curious as to why you chose prop instead of enthanate or cypionate?

[hooker]

Well...I'd have to shoot daily with Boldenone base anyway (Eq with no ester, or Eq suspension), and personally, I like the shorter esters far better...more bang for the buck, IMO.

As for the Synthelesen, yeah..someone told me injecting it was ok...

[hooker]

nevermind, found the site, when you said "Synthelesn" you meant syntheselen right? i couldnt find the product that you said but i fould this one, umm you said you were injecting this stuff!? it does say in big letters oral use only, i might would want to stop those injections if i were you


I don't think you fully understand what this product is...

[jstforme]

i did read about it on the site, that it is a metabolic stimulator, i used to get some free magazine i think called anabolic underground that has similar products to synthetek, and it doesnt even tell you the amount of ingredients in it. im still curious about injecting this stuff, how you can be positive that your body is utilizing/absorbing this correctly

[malibu350]

i did read about it on the site, that it is a metabolic stimulator, i used to get some free magazine i think called anabolic underground that has similar products to synthetek, and it doesnt even tell you the amount of ingredients in it. im still curious about injecting this stuff, how you can be positive that your body is utilizing/absorbing this correctly

The label is a disclaimer so someone taking the product improperly can not sue or do anything otherwise to the company. Yes you do inject all of the products from the board. Either IM or SUBQ, you can take the liver protectant orally. Most work best IM, just massage the area really well as it can sometimes leave a bump. You can also you a slin pin if you have them makes it a lot easier to inject...

[jstforme]

interesting, one thing that should be noted though, the only product that i know for a fact you inject, synthol, does not say oral use only, it says for external use, but every other product does, dont you think if the others could be injected too it would say "oral or external use" ?

[Big A]

As far as Synthetek products go:

Syntherol - IM injection
Syntheselen - IM or SQ injection
Synthetine - IM injection
Synthergine - IM or SQ injection, oral administration
Synthelamin - IM or SQ injection
Synthelator - IM injection

Synthetek is a pharma company that's been around for many years - all products are 100% sterile in multi use vials. As mentioned previously, all the disclaimers are for legal reasons.

[Muscle_Lord00]

I'll let you guys know how it works for me...

Did my first shot this morning.


Any updates on how is it working for you? I started taking it yesterday but caught the flu from a family member. I have to stop it and start over next week when I feel 100%.

[hooker]

I think it's great stuff. My cardio is really way past where it should be, and for some reason it helps the other stuff in the syringe not leave me too sore (which usually happens).

[Muscle_Lord00]

Sounds good. I can;t wait to restart using it!

[mujo]

I have injected this stuff as per recommended dosage.It is awesome stuff.Great for cardio and muscular endurance.Zero negatives side effects.I have been around for a while,and this stuff is real.The shipping is fast,Alin would be proud.

[ufc13]

from the looks of it I would have to use 4cc every day.....that along with a cc of boldenone base and a cc of prop would be 6cc daily!...sounds like a little too much to me!...I have some boldenone base and I can't use it because of the pain and I have tried B-12 and it didn't help, so I am interested in this but 6cc every day?....I dunno.....seems like too much....any advice would be greatly appreciated

[mickeymbbc]

Advice with what??????????putting up with the pain!@# if that is what you are speaking about, then try heating it up before injecting, that always takes away most the pain for me. (along with mxing oil ofcourse)


-mick

[hooker]

Diluting with oil makes the steroid less effective, though...even when you shoot the same total mgs....

[Bucket]

I think it's great stuff. My cardio is really way past where it should be, and for some reason it helps the other stuff in the syringe not leave me too sore (which usually happens).


It's good stuff isn't it? :)

I've been using it off and on for almost a year now and really like it. Keep us updated on how you do on it!

[mickeymbbc]

Diluting with oil makes the steroid less effective, though...even when you shoot the same total mgs....


WHO TEACHES YOU THIS BRUTHA, I AM INTERSTED!@##@! I HAVE NEVER LEARNED THAT IN 20+ YEARS OF THIS..............






-MICK

[hooker]

WHO TEACHES YOU THIS BRUTHA, I AM INTERSTED!@##@! I HAVE NEVER LEARNED THAT IN 20+ YEARS OF THIS..............



-MICK
Take a look at the levels of nandrolone in this chart...when 100mgs are shot in the glute as 25mgs/ml (4mls) the blood levels of nandrolone are lower then when the same 100mgs are shot as 1ml:

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/vol281/issue1/images/medium/pt0374778001.gif

[mickeymbbc]

THAT IS JUST A CHART BRUTHA,(NO DISRESPECT) THAT ISN'T JUSTIFYING ANYHING, I CAN MAKE UP ALL TYPES OF CHARTS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE. THE PLAIN OUT TRUTH IS, IF YOU ARE PUTTING IN 500MG OF TEST, THEN ITS 500MG OF TEST. i AM NOT CALLING YOU A LIAR OF ANYTHING, BUT TRY TELLING SOME OF THE OTHER PRO'S THAT WHEN YOU MIX TOO MUCH OIL IN, IT DILUTES IT. THEY WILL LAUGH THERE ASS OFF.


-MICK

[mickeymbbc]

And do not misunderstand me brutha, I always love hearing other peoples oppinion on a subject. I just would like to see some scientific truth, not something that you copy and pasted off anything.(not that you are) that is going to be hard to prove that to some of the other vets.

BY THE WAY HOOKER!! DO YOU HAVE ANY PICTURES OF YOURSELF THAT YOU CAN POST UP? I WOULD LIKE TOO SEE THEM, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALOT OF OPPINIONS ON MANY ISSUES. I BET YOU ARE A MONSTER ALSO(WHEN I SAY ALSO, I MEAN, ALSO LIKE ME) :)


-MICK

[hooker]

THAT IS JUST A CHART BRUTHA,(NO DISRESPECT) THAT ISN'T JUSTIFYING ANYHING, I CAN MAKE UP ALL TYPES OF CHARTS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE. THE PLAIN OUT TRUTH IS, IF YOU ARE PUTTING IN 500MG OF TEST, THEN ITS 500MG OF TEST. i AM NOT CALLING YOU A LIAR OF ANYTHING, BUT TRY TELLING SOME OF THE OTHER PRO'S THAT WHEN YOU MIX TOO MUCH OIL IN, IT DILUTES IT. THEY WILL LAUGH THERE ASS OFF.


-MICK
I didn't "make up" a chart. Thats a chart from a study. When more oil was used to shoot the same amount of nandrolone, the blood plasma levels of nandrolone didn't get as high. The study was done by Minto et. al, if you want to look it up on pubmed or whatever.

If you use more oil to shoot the same amount of a drug, then you don't achieve the same blood level of the drug in your body, according to that study.

[hooker]

And do not misunderstand me brutha, I always love hearing other peoples oppinion on a subject. I just would like to see some scientific truth, not something that you copy and pasted off anything.(not that you are) that is going to be hard to prove that to some of the other vets.

BY THE WAY HOOKER!! DO YOU HAVE ANY PICTURES OF YOURSELF THAT YOU CAN POST UP? I WOULD LIKE TOO SEE THEM, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALOT OF OPPINIONS ON MANY ISSUES. I BET YOU ARE A MONSTER ALSO(WHEN I SAY ALSO, I MEAN, ALSO LIKE ME) :)


-MICK
I don't particularly care to convince any vets...or respect vets, to be honest. Being a vet means you've been on the boards for awhile if you're a guy, and if you're a girl, it means people wanna fuck you and that you talk alot. I've seen girls become mods before they're done with their first cycles, and men become vets on 5-6 boards within a year of their first post.

As for pics of me, they're on the forums at www.mindandmuscle.net (http://www.mindandmuscle.net) . I'm an athlete...Icarry single digit bf and weigh around 200lbs at 5'7"...I'm not a bb'er at all. My weight and bodyfat are tailored towards playing my sport (rugby), not wearing speedos on a stage.

[mickeymbbc]

I don't particularly care to convince any vets...or respect vets, to be honest. Being a vet means you've been on the boards for awhile if you're a guy, and if you're a girl, it means people wanna fuck you and that you talk alot. I've seen girls become mods before they're done with their first cycles, and men become vets on 5-6 boards within a year of their first post.

As for pics of me, they're on the forums at www.mindandmuscle.net (http://www.mindandmuscle.net) . I'm an athlete...Icarry single digit bf and weigh around 200lbs at 5'7"...I'm not a bb'er at all. My weight and bodyfat are tailored towards playing my sport (rugby), not wearing speedos on a stage.


I do not mean VET, by the vets on INTERNET BOARDS. On that part a can agree with you, I HAVE SEEN MANY PEOPLE BECOME VETS, THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE AT ALL.

I MEAN VETS, BY THE VETS THAT COMPETE PROFESSIONALLY OR EVEN NATIONALY. As far as respecting people, that should always be a must, if you are any kind of a adult(that comes with being able to take advice). that is not a very good attitude to have on any board. THAT IS NOT A WAY TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE HUMBLE OR HONEST, AND I WILL NOT TOLERATE ANYONE BEING AS ASS...I was just looking for some verification on your thoughts. I thought that you competed like me and some of the other competitors on here, that is why I asked you that question.(not to be a ass)

If you do not bodybuild, that doesn't mean that I do not respect you or your oppinions, I was taught to respect everyone growing up that respected me. I think that is fine to you train for "Ruby" PLEASE DO NOT MISTAKE KINDNESS FOR WEAKNESS..............

EXAMPLE: BUCKET WOULD DEFINATELY BE IN A CATORGORY AS A VET. I HAVE KNOWN HIM FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND WILL ALWAYS RESPECT HIS OPPINONS ON ANY SITUATION. AND HE WILL GO THE DISTANCE TO VALIDATE HIS THEORY.


-MICK

[hooker]

I do not mean VET, by the vets on INTERNET BOARDS. On that part a can agree with you, I HAVE SEEN MANY PEOPLE BECOME VETS, THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE AT ALL.

I MEAN VETS, BY THE VETS THAT COMPETE PROFESSIONALLY OR EVEN NATIONALY. As far as respecting people, that should always be a must, if you are any kind of a adult(that comes with being able to take advice). that is not a very good attitude to have on any board. THAT IS NOT A WAY TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE HUMBLE OR HONEST, AND I WILL NOT TOLERATE ANYONE BEING AS ASS...I was just looking for some verification on your thoughts. I thought that you competed like me and some of the other competitors on here, that is why I asked you that question.(not to be a ass)

If you do not bodybuild, that doesn't mean that I do not respect you or your oppinions, I was taught to respect everyone growing up that respected me. I think that is fine to you train for "Ruby" PLEASE DO NOT MISTAKE KINDNESS FOR WEAKNESS..............

EXAMPLE: BUCKET WOULD DEFINATELY BE IN A CATORGORY AS A VET. I HAVE KNOWN HIM FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND WILL ALWAYS RESPECT HIS OPPINONS ON ANY SITUATION. AND HE WILL GO THE DISTANCE TO VALIDATE HIS THEORY.


-MICK
Word. I thought you meant "vet" as in "look at me, I'm a vet on www.bullshitsteroidboard.com (http://www.bullshitsteroidboard.com) " You're totally right on the vet thing...it's meaningless w/o real credentials (like BigA, etc...).

[Big A]

[QUOTE=hookerIf you use more oil to shoot the same amount of a drug, then you don't achieve the same blood level of the drug in your body, according to that study.[/QUOTE]

Never thought about this before. It makes sense though - more oil volume, means larger bolus in the muscle, which means takes longer to dissipate, as such it releases the amount of drug at a slower rate, resulting in lower blood concentrations.

[hooker]

[QUOTE=hookerIf you use more oil to shoot the same amount of a drug, then you don't achieve the same blood level of the drug in your body, according to that study.
Never thought about this before. It makes sense though - more oil volume, means larger bolus in the muscle, which means takes longer to dissipate, as such it releases the amount of drug at a slower rate, resulting in lower blood concentrations.[/QUOTE]
Yup. But you never actually achieve the same plasma concentrations...telling me that the larger amount of oil doesn't just make it disperse more slowly, but actually alters the pharmacokinetics somehow.

[Big A]

Yup. But you never actually achieve the same plasma concentrations...telling me that the larger amount of oil doesn't just make it disperse more slowly, but actually alters the pharmacokinetics somehow.

I don't think it alters pharmacokinetics. I think because of the larger oil volume, the absorbtion is so much slower that it never has a chance to achieve the same plasma concetrations because simply the drug takes so much longer to get absorbed. By the time all of it is absorbed, some of the initial absorbed drug is already gone through it's half life.
EG - 1ml of 100mg/ml of a drug with a 2 day half life takes 2 days to be fully absorbed. 4ml of 25mg/ml of the same drug takes 7 days to be fully absorbed due to the bigger bolus. So by the time the last remnants are fully absorbed, the first mg's are well and trully gone. The above is just a general example, obviously not related to nandrolone decanoate.

[rAJJIN]

I don't think it alters pharmacokinetics. I think because of the larger oil volume, the absorbtion is so much slower that it never has a chance to achieve the same plasma concetrations because simply the drug takes so much longer to get absorbed. By the time all of it is absorbed, some of the initial absorbed drug is already gone through it's half life.
EG - 1ml of 100mg/ml of a drug with a 2 day half life takes 2 days to be fully absorbed. 4ml of 25mg/ml of the same drug takes 7 days to be fully absorbed due to the bigger bolus. So by the time the last remnants are fully absorbed, the first mg's are well and trully gone. The above is just a general example, obviously not related to nandrolone decanoate.


Interesting. ;)

[hooker]

I don't think it alters pharmacokinetics. I think because of the larger oil volume, the absorbtion is so much slower that it never has a chance to achieve the same plasma concetrations because simply the drug takes so much longer to get absorbed. By the time all of it is absorbed, some of the initial absorbed drug is already gone through it's half life.
EG - 1ml of 100mg/ml of a drug with a 2 day half life takes 2 days to be fully absorbed. 4ml of 25mg/ml of the same drug takes 7 days to be fully absorbed due to the bigger bolus. So by the time the last remnants are fully absorbed, the first mg's are well and trully gone. The above is just a general example, obviously not related to nandrolone decanoate.
Actually, I think if you add up the half lives and figure in the time that it's out by, thats not totally true...you don't get as much nandrolone in your blood for some reason, all up...

I could be wrong though...

[hooker]

I don't think it alters pharmacokinetics.


Actually, that was the conclusion drawn by the people wo conducted the study I quoted...that the ester length does, in fact, alter the pharmacokinetics...

[Alin]

As far as Synthetek products go:

Syntherol - IM injection
Syntheselen - IM or SQ injection
Synthetine - IM injection
Synthergine - IM or SQ injection, oral administration
Synthelamin - IM or SQ injection
Synthelator - IM injection

Synthetek is a pharma company that's been around for many years - all products are 100% sterile in multi use vials. As mentioned previously, all the disclaimers are for legal reasons.



VERY good product line. Top quality!

[jesse1303]

as a fat burner how does the product seem to stand up to clenbuterol, eca stacks, ect...

Additionaly, doesnt adding oil allow the life of the substance to be carried out longer? I mean after its injected the half life doesnt start until its actually in the blood stream, so by slowing absorbtion in the bolus doesnt that prolong the effects? Then after your third or fourth shot wouldnt the gear with the oil have as high a concentration in the blood and also be more sustained between pokes? as in the levels would not fluctuate as much because the product is now acting more like a time released substance.

[hooker]

Seems to be a decent fat burner...I know a girl who is using it in a precontest stack also.

[GIO]

Can you inject carb powder & the whey
Ha,Ha,Ha.