PCT Question

[bigguy]

Hi wonder if anyone can help. Not many serious gym brothers where i live so hard to get sound advice.
I have done a few cycles and made gains but lost most of them. I read up a lot on PCT but have heard many different stories and what and how much to use.

I am on a cycle of sustanon 250 (2mls per week) and Decca (2mls per week) mondays and thursdays and dianabol (50mg every day for first 4 weeks)

I am training like an animal and eating 5500 - 6500 calories a day, trying my best to eat 'CLEAN'.... I am currently weighing 217lbs with 12% body fat.

From what I have learnt for PCT i am using HCG (1500ui) 3 times a week the last week of my cycle, then again same amount 3 times a week 3 weeks later.
3 weeks after last shot of sus I am taking 300mg clomid day 1 and 100mg every day first week and 50mg every day second week. I am also using nolva (20mg) every day for 4 weeks after cycle.

I would really appreciate some advice from more experienced dudes at whether this looks good or needs some tweaking.

I'm sick of listening to bollocks from people who have been to the gym every day for 10 years and haven't made gains in 8 and think they are bad. need real advice from real dudes so i can continue uncaging the beast........

Cheers Bigguy

[Bucket]

There are many different takes on PCT. Some look like this

week 1 50mg Nolva
Week 2 40mg Nolva
week 3 30mg Nolva


Some people prefer clomid

week 1 150mg clomid
week 2 100mg clomid
week 3 50mg clomid


While others combine the two

week 1 150mg clomid/50 nolva
week 2 100mg clomid/40nolva
week 3 50mg clomid/30 nolva

LOL. while other use tribex with there PCT at 3 to 5grams a day.

The important thing with PCT is to get your own test production working and up and running as fast as you can while limiting loss of gains. But you need to remember that hcg, while useful to bring your boys back up to size, is not a pct and should not be classified as such.

It's much easier to run hcg at the sings of testicular shrinkage then to try and play catch up at the end of a cycle. Also in some people hcg during pct will bring about gyno as well.

[mickeymbbc]

There are many different takes on PCT. Some look like this

week 1 50mg Nolva
Week 2 40mg Nolva
week 3 30mg Nolva


Some people prefer clomid

week 1 150mg clomid
week 2 100mg clomid
week 3 50mg clomid


While others combine the two

week 1 150mg clomid/50 nolva
week 2 100mg clomid/40nolva
week 3 50mg clomid/30 nolva

LOL. while other use tribex with there PCT at 3 to 5grams a day.

The important thing with PCT is to get your own test production working and up and running as fast as you can while limiting loss of gains. But you need to remember that hcg, while useful to bring your boys back up to size, is not a pct and should not be classified as such.

It's much easier to run hcg at the sings of testicular shrinkage then to try and play catch up at the end of a cycle. Also in some people hcg during pct will bring about gyno as well.


Good call Bucket: I go like this with the novadex 40-30-20

[bigguy]

cool thanks for the info guys..............

The way i was starting to think was spend a wad of cash on a cycle then the same again on PCT :D

I'll run with it this time and see how it pans out

Thanks.

[White Knight]

I'm sick of listening to bollocks from people who have been to the gym every day for 10 years and haven't made gains in 8 and think they are bad.

Cheers Bigguy


LMAO! Do we go to the same gym? Personally I use clomid and nolva together like Bucket laid out for you. At the end of the day its gonna depend on your own experience to see what works for you.

WK

[p2o4wer]

bucket, is that 50 mg of nolva every day for a week etc .... plus 150 mg of clomid everyday for a week etc....

[mickeymbbc]

Yes Brutha...ED for a week


-mick

[bigguy]

Hey guys sorry been away not checked my messages etc. Got about two weeks left of my cycle then PCT. This ones been a bit of a waste I put on 12lbs then got sick then got chosen by my boss to go and work out of the country for three weeks so no regular training and no homemade food. Lived of tuna rolls and pro-mass for 2 weeks I have lost 4 lbs but back in da gym so trying to keep hard at it for next 4-5 weeks.

I have another question..........When I inject HCG do I inject in the usual places (glutes, quads etc.) or is it in the stomach near the belly button like I have read on otherforum sites???? Just wanted to ask??

Anyway gonna wait till after christmas and see if I can have another go at a new cycle was thinking:

weeks
1-6 dbol 50mg every day
1-10 test e 600mg/week
1-10 eq 400mg/week
10-14 winny 50mg eod

14-17 PCT

Again as I said before no real gym freaks where I live so my knowledge is from
you guys answers. This will be 4th cycle so getting more used to what works for me but any help always appreciated........... :confused:

[mickeymbbc]

Hey guys sorry been away not checked my messages etc. Got about two weeks left of my cycle then PCT. This ones been a bit of a waste I put on 12lbs then got sick then got chosen by my boss to go and work out of the country for three weeks so no regular training and no homemade food. Lived of tuna rolls and pro-mass for 2 weeks I have lost 4 lbs but back in da gym so trying to keep hard at it for next 4-5 weeks.

I have another question..........When I inject HCG do I inject in the usual places (glutes, quads etc.) or is it in the stomach near the belly button like I have read on otherforum sites???? Just wanted to ask?? I believe that anywhere sub is fine

Anyway gonna wait till after christmas and see if I can have another go at a new cycle was thinking:

weeks
1-6 dbol 50mg every day-you probably will only need 4 weeks

1-10 test e 600mg/week

1-10 eq 400mg/week

10-14 winny 50mg eod-if you are wanting to run winni up to your pct, then run it for 6 weeks 50MG ED

YOUR PCT STARTS THE DAY AFTER YOUR LAST PILL

14-17 PCT

Again as I said before no real gym freaks where I live so my knowledge is from
you guys answers. This will be 4th cycle so getting more used to what works for me but any help always appreciated........... :confused:

I altered a few things above??

-mick

[bigguy]

thanks for advice mickey, haven ;t added winny to a cycle before so i'll be interested to see how it goes........................