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jstforme
09-13-2006, 07:38 AM
okay im not a big fan of doubling or tripling up doses the first few weeks of a long estered steroid (i dont even know if this really works). i much rather prefer to use a short acting steroid untill long acting kicks in, this will work every single time. this is copied from another board. i would like to get everyones opinions on this frontloading stuff. "Frontloading Basics and Dosages

by Curls4dGirls at SuperiorMuscle.com with contributions by Skyefire and Spidey

The purpose of this thread is to provide some basic information on frontloading, including an explanation of half-lives, differences across esters, and recommended frontloading dosages.

HALF-LIFE BASICS

Each compound includes an ester that, along with other factors, controls the release of the hormone into the system. The rate of release differs by ester and is defined in terms of half-life. The average half-lives of esters are:

ESTER HALF LIFE (days)
Formate 1.5
Acetate 3
Propionate 4.5
Butyrate 6
Valerate 7.5
Hexanoate 9
Caproate 9
Isocaproate 9
Heptanoate 10.5
Enanthate 10.5
Octanoate 12
Cypionate 12
Nonanoate 13.5
Decanoate 15
Undecanoate 16.5

The half-life is the length of time (in days) to release half of the hormone into the system. For example, if 500 mgs of Testosterone Cypionate is administered, in 12 days, on average, 250 mgs of testosterone has been released into the system and 250 mgs of testosterone remains attached to the ester. In another 12 days, an additional 125 mgs (half of the remaining 250 mgs) has been released into the system for a total of 375 mgs released and 125 mgs still attached to the ester. The key detail is that different esters release the hormone into the system at different rates. Therefore, different esters require different frontload dosages.

FRONTLOADING

The purpose of frontloading is to quickly reach the target dosage to more quickly realize the benefits of the AAS. This thread provides instructions to reach 75% of the weekly dosage within the first week

Most people use, as a rule of thumb, twice the weekly dosage (double dosing) in the first week. That works well for esters with a half-life of 10.5 days or less. However, this does not work well for longer esters. Let’s look at EQ as an example. If the intended weekly dosage is 600 mgs, then the frontload dosage, based on double dosing, is 1200 mgs. Although 50% of the intended dosage is reached in the first week, 75% of the intended dosage is not reached until week 4. Without any frontloading, 75% of the intended dosage is reached in week 5. So, while ‘double dosing’ works, the effects diminish with increasing half-life.

EQ Double Dose Values at 600 mgs (1200 mgs in Week 1)

No Frontload
Released… % of Target
Week 1 153… 25%
Week 2 267… 44%
Week 3 352… 59%
Week 4 415… 69%
Week 5 462… 77%
Week 6 497… 83%

Double Dosing
Released… % of Target
Week 1 306… 51%
Week 2 381… 63%
Week 3 437… 73%
Week 4 478… 80%
Week 5 509… 85%
Week 6 532… 89%



The following table includes frontloading dosage to reach 75% of the intended dosage by the end of the first week. The dosages are indexed at 100 mgs / week. To reach your intended dosage, simply multiply the frontload dosage by your weekly dosage divided by 100. For example, if you wanted to run Testosterone Cypionate at 800 mgs / wk, then multiply the frontload dosage of 225 mgs by 8 (800 / 100) for 1800 mgs in week 1.

ESTER FRONTLOAD DOSAGE(mgs)
Formate 100
Acetate 100
Propionate 115
Butyrate 130
Valerate 160
Hexanoate 180
Caproate 180
Isocaproate 180
Heptanoate 200
Enanthate 200
Octanoate 225
Cypionate 225
Nonanoate 250
Decanoate 270
Undecanoate 295


The calculation used is MgDL = MgD * (1/2)^(D/HL), where:

MgDL = Mgs of depot left
MgD = Mgs in depot (total)
D = Days
H = Half-life

Injections for Formate and Acetate are daily. Injections for Propianate are every other day. Injections for Butyrate are every 3 days. All other esters are administered as one injection at the beginning of the week 1. It should be noted that injection frequency does not significantly influence frontloading dosages."
what do you guys think?

mamaduke
09-13-2006, 06:28 PM
I like frontloading EQ for the first 2 weeks, then starting my oral aas - tbol or var. By week 4, I can see and feel the "synergistic" effect, whether it be actual or not. I start test week 4 and by week 6, I am feeling "Capital!" As I have stated before, I like long cycles with EQ, probably due to the fact that it is subtle in its effects and has little or no effect on htpa or gyno. Just my 2¢!

sTaTic
09-13-2006, 08:19 PM
I never frontload. Just dont see the reason and I've never actually seen it do anything different to friends that have.

k1*
09-14-2006, 03:45 AM
I never frontload. Just dont see the reason and I've never actually seen it do anything different to friends that have.
Bump Static,,,I totally agree.......

bod1ggity
09-14-2006, 03:49 AM
I never frontload. Just dont see the reason and I've never actually seen it do anything different to friends that have.
I sticks tha needle in me and press'es it tills the stuff inside is gone and then I lift weights and eat food

sTaTic
09-14-2006, 07:10 AM
I sticks tha needle in me and press'es it tills the stuff inside is gone and then I lift weights and eat food


Classic :D

JMP8888
09-14-2006, 07:13 AM
I never frontloaded with long acting stuff...or any stuff for that matter. I figure if I am just starting a cycle, I don't need high dosages in the first few weeks, so why take them? If an immediate kick is what you are after, use orals or a faster acting injectable.
That's my opinion...but what the hell do I know?!

sTaTic
09-14-2006, 07:30 PM
I actually think you know a lot and value the posts you put up. But that's just me. I think everyone else thinks you're full of crap!!! :D ;)