Chewing Tabs for Better Absorbtion???

[Howdy1626]

Does chewing the tabs make for better absorbtion opposed to just swallowing them whole? I mean i chew IP products because of the compression they use to manufacter them but ive never chewed anything else. Should i start chewing all my orals? Dbol, anadrol, winstrol, etc.?

[k1*]

Does chewing the tabs make for better absorbtion opposed to just swallowing them whole? I mean i chew IP products because of the compression they use to manufacter them but ive never chewed anything else. Should i start chewing all my orals? Dbol, anadrol, winstrol, etc.?
I chew all my orals, out of habit. They do say that there is no reason to chew BD orals, but I would anyway.

[rAJJIN]

Naw, maybe the Ips mini tabs like you said or Redis paper but not the Human grade stuff.

[alan1973]

I chew all my orals, out of habit. They do say that there is no reason to chew BD orals, but I would anyway.
I tried chewing out of curiosity and it made a bigger and faster difference.
definately from now on I will chew the IPs.

[tatteredxangelx]

chew everything w/ 16oz of grapefruit juice,

[bod1ggity]

ive always chewed orals... even if its a myth that it causes faster absorbtion whats the difference? might as well just chew em

[Alin]

I chew all my orals, out of habit. They do say that there is no reason to chew BD orals, but I would anyway.


I chew all mine out of habit too.

[Tyree33]

chew everything w/ 16oz of grapefruit juice,
I've been chewin my tabs since I can remember but whats the deal w/ the grapefuit juice?

[tatteredxangelx]

prevents yer liver from detxofying a signifcant portion of it, so you get even better absoprtion ... its more toxic tho

[kaelalden]

I like chewing them because it makes my tongue go numb.

[Andriol7z]

FURAZABOL is an IP Jap Product - Have any of you ever used it or recommend it for a certain use, just wondering becasue there is not a lot of info around on Furazabol and it has got me thinking...

Should I buy it or not types of thought! Ummm :confused:

[Tyrone]

I like chewing them because it makes my tongue go numb.
Quit chewing up all the 8-balls! :D

[Howdy1626]

I like chewing them because it makes my tongue go numb.

hell yea kaelalden! my damn tongue is numb almost 24 hours a day! lol like i been eating on orajel

[Tyree33]

I like chewing them because it makes my tongue go numb.
Daaarrrff........ :rolleyes:

[Howdy1626]

Alin you dont think theres a chance that chewing BD orals will make them less effective do you!? i know im chewing my IP all day everyday, but anything else im wondering about. as of right now im chewing my PCT which is nolvadex from hexel and IP clomid. nolvadex isnt that bad by the way!

[JILANI]

Instead of chewing so as to avoid the numbness, why not try crushing the orals into powder? It has worked for me in the past, after crushing the orals I would pour some water or juice on the spoon then swallow.

[Howdy1626]

Instead of chewing so as to avoid the numbness, why not try crushing the orals into powder? It has worked for me in the past, after crushing the orals I would pour some water or juice on the spoon then swallow.

thats a good idea, but after crushing the tab and pouring it into...say...grapefruit juice, its not going to lose its strength is it? that oral is going to be as potent as it was before, right?

[sammarbella]

FURAZABOL is an IP Jap Product - Have any of you ever used it or recommend it for a certain use, just wondering becasue there is not a lot of info around on Furazabol and it has got me thinking...

Should I buy it or not types of thought! Ummm :confused:

I plan to use it in my next cycle (at the end with Tren A and Test P), it's very similar to win tabs but with a paradoxal effect in lypid profile: contrary to bad action in it from win, furazabol IMPROVE it.

Anthony Roberts post at T-nation (extract):

https://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=270FDCD5A6CFF3F4AF4B87C50F D925A2.hydra?id=749778

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Miotolan (Furazabol)

The next interesting compound to make a comeback is Miotolan (Furazabol), produced by both D-Pharm and International Pharmaceuticals. Until now, I've never even heard of Miotolan being available on the black market.

It's actually a very interesting compound, once you wade through the science-stuff and figure out that it actually performs very much like Winstrol. What we have here in Miotolan (and Winstrol) is a modified DHT molecule with a 17-alpha-methyl group (making it both orally available and liver-toxic, as you know).

The Miotolan/Winstrol comparison is certainly warranted, as they have the same exact structure, but with one difference: Miotolan has a furazan group instead of the pyrazole group, which drastically changes their respective effects on your cholesterol. Winstrol is incredibly harsh on HDL and LDL cholesterol, while Miotolan actually improves your cholesterol values.

So why is that interesting? Well, unlike many DHT-based compounds, Miotolan can cause a decrease in plasma cholesterol levels, thus making it a reasonably safe oral. In fact, when someone with cholesterol issues does a cycle, I'd be reasonably confident recommending that it contain Miotolan every time. That difference is the only one I can realistically see, with regards to Miotolan and Winstrol, because their anabolic and androgenic properties are basically the same, as is their ability to bind to the androgen receptor (low).

As with other DHT derivatives, Miotolan isn't estrogenic or progestenic in any way and doesn't aromatize. You'll only have to worry about the usual DHT-produced side effects from it (acne, hair loss, etc.) and of course potential liver problems in higher dosages. I'd say, with respect to dosing, given the similarities between this compound and Winstrol, roughly 25-100mgs/day would be appropriate.
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BigCat's Miotolan (Furazabol) profile:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catmiotolan.htm

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Pharmaceutical Name: Furazabol
Chemical structure: 17-alpha-methyl-5-alpha-androsta-2,3-furazan,17b-ol
Molecular weight of base: 330.4692



Effective dose: 20-50 mg/day
Average Street-price: $0.25-0.40 for a 1 mg tab
Available Doses: 1 mg tabs



Brands & Products:
Daiichi Seiyaku Miotolan (Japan) 1 mg tabs


Characteristics:

Furazabol reminds us of Stanozolol (Winstrol) strucrurally. Its similar in appearance in that it's a DHT molecule with a 17-alpha-methyl group for oral availability, and has no 3-keto group, needed for androgenic binding. But instead of a 2,3-pyrazol group, furazabol has a 2,3-furazan group. The difference may not be all that big, both groups contain 2 nitrogen atoms and 2 double bonds and both are present instead of the 3-keto group. The advantage is that its not readily deactivated and therefore whatever influences it has, they are consistent. The downside is that the lack of a 3-keto group, which will impair its overall androgenic potency. So in that aspect again comparable to stanozolol. Anabolics 2002, without a doubt the best reference guide for steroids in print, lists Furazabol as extremely androgenic however, which is no doubt just an oversight. In nearly every way the behaviour of furazabol would be identical to that of Stanozolol.

It's an obscure steroid, that's the least we can say. Its only manufactured in Japan and in tabs of 1 mg. Low availability makes the cost of this steroid rather high, and its not particularly easy to find. Perhaps a tad more potent than Stanozolol, the doses used lay in the same neighbourhood, 20-50 mg/day. The higher doses being the preference. The demand for it isn't very high either, because Winstrol/Stromba is a popular and cheap to come by. The only benefit of its obscurity is that noone will invest in faking it. So if you do come across Furazabol, you have pretty good odds that the stuff is legit.

Now, the literature does not make a whole lot of mention of furazabol, but from what I was able to find1, it supports the weak nature of the steroid. In one case it was found that furazabol was a good treatment for hyperlipemia, and this without affecting proteinuria (the prevention of excretion of amino acids, where one would expect a steroid to increase proteinuria and not effect hyperlipemia). The low androgen binding may explain the lack of effect it had on proteinuria. The doses used were considerably high though, at least for furazabol. 1.1 mg/kg/day. That means a 200 lb bodybuilder would be using around 90-100 mg/day

Furazabol can be considered a relatively light steroid therefore. It is not estrogenic in anyway, on account of its dihydro structure and its lack of estrogenic action and low androgenic binding make it have fairly little influence on the body's own testosterone production. Much like Winstrol (stanozolol) and Anavar (oxandrolone). In the long run suppression will occur of course, but because it occurs much slower a user will suffer less from testicular atrophy and therefore bounce back easier when a cycle is concluded. There is a slim chance of androgenic risk, as with Winstrol, but its not frequent or severe. So acne, increased body and facial hair and even an aggravation of male pattern hair loss can occur, but it's a lot less likely than with more androgenic specimen.

Stacking and Use:

Furazabol is a 17-alpha-alkylated steroid, and therefore has a level of hepatoxicity. In the interest of protecting your liver, you should not extend use beyond 6-8 weeks maximum. It's a mild steroid with no estrogenic activity, so logically its best used when cutting in stacks with Equipoise (boldenone undecylenate), Finaplix (trenbolone acetate) or Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) and the needed fat-burners of course. Unlike most steroids, this drug has a relatively short half-life2 however. It compensates with quite long activity (15-33% excretion of unchanged metabolites after 24 hours) so a single dose should be enough to get you through the day. But on account of the low half-life time, you may want to consider splitting doses in two each day.

Because it doesn't aromatize and doesn't have a strong androgenic component, the use of ancillary drugs is limited. The use of Clomid or Nolvadex after a cycle is certainly advised, though the merit may be rather limited. There is no need for anti-estrogens or blood pressure medication during the cycle.

References

1 Suzuki Y, Honda Y, Ito M. Pharmacological studies on experimental nephritic rats. (4) Improvement of hyperlipemic models in rats utilizing anti-rat kidney rabbit serum and effects of anti-hyperlipemic agents on serum lipid levels. Jpn J Pharmacol 1978 Oct;28(5):729-38

2 Kim T, Suh JW, Ryu JC, Chung BC, Park J. Excretion study of furazabol, an anabolic steroid, in human urine. J Chromatogr B Biomed Appl 1996 Dec 6;687(1):79-83
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[Howdy1626]

Alin has this stuff on his site! i'll prlly pick some up next order and give it a go.

[Andriol7z]

Hi Sammarbella,

Thanks a lot for the detail, it has helped me greatly ;)

I will buy some in from Alin thanks to your efforts in getting the info!

Eddie :)

[bod1ggity]

I like chewing them because it makes my tongue go numb.
where are you getting cocaine tabs?

[Tyrone]

where are you getting cocaine tabs?
That's what I'd like to know. At first I just thought he was eating 8-balls.