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ojprick
06-15-2006, 10:03 AM
Hey bro's I'm 6'2 215 with some body fat around 15% , i got some eq and some test cyp, i'm taking 400ml a week of eq for 12 weeks, but my question is how much test is too little i was thinking about doing 250ml of test a week. The reason being i don't want a lot of sides that come with the test, and i don't want to get super swoll cause of my job, i know i'm going to get bigger but it can't be two noticeable. is 250 if test not enough????

bod1ggity
06-15-2006, 10:07 AM
No 250 a week is great for a starter, and cyp is a reasonably long estered test... its almost the same as Enan. To keep sides down I would suggest .25mg of A-dex/eod... it will keep estrogen at bay and water retention down without hendering gains. Personally ide try to drop down to about 12%bf before I started a build cycle but thats just my personal preferance. Watch your diet or youll store alot of fat along with muscle.

hismadnessty
06-15-2006, 10:15 AM
I'd suggest a minimum of 500mg of test/wk. Anything less than this and you're just wasting your gear/money. You won't really get anything out of 250mg/wk and the side effects (such as water weight) can be partially prevented with nolvadex or arimidex. If you are really that concerned about gaining size then you might want to reconsider doing test. If I were you, I'd either do the 500mg/wk or I wouldn't do it at all.

ojprick
06-15-2006, 10:40 AM
I have nolva so i can take that to keep sides at bay, do you think a cutting cycle is best to do first then do a bulk cycle later, and by the way it is my first cycle.

garrettltyra
06-15-2006, 10:47 AM
i'd say 500 minimum, sides should be at a minimum on 500ml/wk..... nolva shouldn't be necessary but in some cases ppl are more sensitive, so whatever suits you man..

garrettltyra
06-15-2006, 10:48 AM
i'd say you sound about average for a 6'2'' guy, so go for the bulk man........ cut later

ojprick
06-15-2006, 11:27 AM
Ya fuck it ay, I'll give it go man, thanks for the input, my buddy says cut later too after you get some mucsle buit up. Cheers garrettltyra!!

jeter2020
06-15-2006, 12:11 PM
I did 500mg/wk of Enanthate for my first cycle and it was great with little sides. From what I hear 250mg is just enough to shut your natural test down and not gain. I would definately go with at least 500mg/wk. Thats just my .02

bod1ggity
06-16-2006, 03:23 AM
ide watch out with the nolv' it can hender gains sometimes because its that strong... I would stick with arimidex .25mg's eod.