how much heat for bakeing test is to much

[gtgary123]

been doing super450 twice a week for about 5 weeks now,its painless right after injection but about a day and a half after weather in glut or quad it was so sore it wont even funny,to the point where i was going to stop cycle,always use new points 23s.any way ihad transfered test to sterial vile wiped all surfaces with alcohol,but still it was either the test are some cross contamanation,cause the pain was interfering with my work outs. so i put the vile in pan of water and baked it for about 40 min. at one time the water barely started to boil but i removed the vile then put it back in i dont think i ever took nthe oil itself over195 maybe 200 degrees i also vented it with pin,and would swirl it around from time to time, Idid shot two days ago and have had no pain at all,i love it ,i just hope i did not kill the active ingrediant in the test,does any body no if that much heat will kill test.

[dale_gribble]

Bro, dont bother trying to heat anything up or baking it. Its very risky and theres a good chance you'll fuck your gear up. It may also cause it to turn black. Just grin and bear it or mix something else with it. Its best to let the guys who make it deal with that sort of thing. Some gear hurts and some doesnt.

[gtgary123]

what would be good to cut it with,cause i aint just talkin about pain im talkin cant even get in your car pain, cant do a sit up pain,mess up your work out pain.

[dale_gribble]

what would be good to cut it with,cause i aint just talkin about pain im talkin cant even get in your car pain, cant do a sit up pain,mess up your work out pain.

LMAO! I know the pain you're talking about bro. I had BD test that killed me, but I bought a different brand of test and mixed them 50/50 and no more pain ever again. Deca is also a good oil to mix, and Im sure there are others, but some of the other guys may have to help you on that since my usage has strictly been with tren, test and deca. Actually, now that I remember, I used some BD tri tren to cut the pain a bit and it worked as well.

cheers

[gtgary123]

i have some of that time realese b12 its not oil base,think it would make a good cut for the test .

[dale_gribble]

i have some of that time realese b12 its not oil base,think it would make a good cut for the test .

Well, Im not so sure about that. I know it is possible to mix both and inject at the same time, but very risky in the sense that you have to go very slow while injecting all of it. I would just stick it out with the pain bro.

But it says you dont have the pain anymore, so you're ok for now. But for future, I wouldnt bake, and mix another oil as well.

cheers

[dsrobertson73]

i am beginning to believe that some people are very sensitive to the shorter acting esters like prop. and phen.prop.
I took 1cc t-450 and 1cc deca 1st day @ 5 days ago. mixed into 1 shot.
took 1/2 cc t-450 and 1/2 of deca @ 3 days ago and 1 day ago.
I have had minimal pain. i would call it SLIGHT SORENESS.
I gave my friend his first. 1/2cc mixed with 1/2cc deca, and you would think he needs to go to th E.R. So I don't know. Try warming it. Try massaging it for a VERY, VERY, LONG TIME. Maybe 5-10 minutes. i do not know if it is something that a person gets used to over a few cycles or not. these have been the easiest injections i have taken out of four cycles.

[sszapdog]

can anyone say if he cooked out the active ingredients and is this a viable solution to this situation? I'm sure we've got a knowagable chemist out there.

[sszapdog]

you bozo's that say stick out the pain must have no fucking idea ...I'll be nice.

[gtgary123]

yea im hopeing the active ingredeant is still there,some one on another board said when i heated it up to 195 i evaporated the BA out of it witch could cause it not to be sterile,but i still got more left in the satchets that aint been baked,i opened one of them last night for my second weekly shot ,got some pain today,but the stuff i did saturday after bakeing was painless it hasent turned no funny colors are any thing, I sure would like to contineue with that but dont want to f**k my cycle up,like i say i still got 20 mls of satchets left un baked,but for all i no that painless might still be good test,cause i dont know what temp kills test yet.

[sszapdog]

bake at 250 for 20 min -that's what ALIN told me in a previous post about sterilizing gear-that means your all good.