Ok Tren A... What next?

[I Love Lucy]

I am not a BB so i may have different goals (Martial Arts and overall physique maintenance). I have heard so many things about how powerful Tren A is. I finally decided to try it. I have never done any NOR-19 type gear i.e. deca... So I don't really no what to expect. but i can say i feel more from Test and Dbol. I am 2 weeks in to a Tren A 1/2 cc= 50mg EOD and Test E 250mg per week. I started my Test E a couple weeks before and will run it a couple week after. But at this point i have noticed absolutley nothing different about my cycle running tren. I am very use to Test E and am beginning to notice a little size but nothing in regards to the explosiveness i have heard about Tren. Should I up my dose or is 50mg EOD enough. As I said I am into my 2nd week of the Tren. Any advice? or just sit tight? My diet and work-out have been in check. Thanks

[dudcki27]

Well are you sure the tren is legit? And if it is and you're not noticing any strength gains or any of the sides(night sweats, insmonia, loss of endurance) I'd double up the doese and go 100mg eod. If it's legit you'll notice a difference with that dose.

[I Love Lucy]

Well are you sure the tren is legit? And if it is and you're not noticing any strength gains or any of the sides(night sweats, insmonia, loss of endurance) I'd double up the doese and go 100mg eod. If it's legit you'll notice a difference with that dose.

dudcki,

It is stealth from ALIN. Everything i get is straight from ALIN. So I have no reason to doubt it right? I sweat alot anyway especillay in the summer and it is hot in NY right now so that one is hard to say. But no other sides at all. I maybe seeing a bit of body composition change but that may be wishful thinking... Thanks for the in sight. I am going to bump it up...

[kaju]

Im not a BB. I too am a boxer and do martial arts.
I have run tren ace. Let me tell you - if you want a good physique then tren ace is the way to go.
tren has long been known to constrict the airways. it will decrease your stamina and performance as a fighter. you will get stronger but without air your performance as a fighter will be shot to hell.
If you want performance inhancement tren is the worst compound out there for your goal as a good fighter.
I love tren but hate what it does to my lungs.
When on it I cannot go one round in the ring with a biginner without having to stop for air.
I recomend NOT tren as a fighter.

[drob29]

Well are you sure the tren is legit? And if it is and you're not noticing any strength gains or any of the sides(night sweats, insmonia, loss of endurance) I'd double up the doese and go 100mg eod. If it's legit you'll notice a difference with that dose.

Or....try 75mg eod for a bit, then bump to 100mg eod if needed.

[I Love Lucy]

Or....try 75mg eod for a bit, then bump to 100mg eod if needed.

I am going to bump it up a bit and see what happens. I am feeling no loss of endurance and I may be starting to see some good def coming. But still early. I will let you guys know how I make out. So far 2 weeks in, no sides but nothing overwhelming in regards to results yet either. I plan on stepping the cardio up to aid in fat burn. lifts have been going well, no huge strength increase as of yet.

Thanks for the advice guys

[swimfan30]

Follow Dudckid's and Drob's approach on this if you are going to follow through with this Tren cycle. Probably not a compound to mess with if your not VERY familiar with! But you mentioned no sides yet and that's a pretty good sign for running Tren. Post up so we can see what the latest up-date is?

[I Love Lucy]

I will definetly keep posting. But so far the only down side i have with TREN A is the frequency of injects. That is why I have always been a big fan of long esters like Test E & C. Its not that I mind injecting, (no pin fear) I have not had one painful shot yet but if i can do it less and get away with it I would rather. I am only using the TA this time because as you all know this is my first go with Tren. I did however start to feel some tightening in my body last couple of morning, which is nice. But absolutely none of the typical side you listed see from others. Is that wierd or consider it fortunate?

[I Love Lucy]

Update - I weigh in at work every morning. Weighed 203 on Wednesday and was out yesterday so this morning weighed 209. something must be happening. Maybe it is the Test E. But something for sure. I'll keep you posted...

[I Love Lucy]

Body Composition absolutely starting to change... feeling harder as well. Nothing major but something is going on... My work outs have been good, not a huge strength increase but feel strong during lifts... I am putting on weight as well, probably the test though...No sides... other than mental, i think it makes me a little crazy... lol

[kaju]

When you started this post it really was to soon to see any effects yet. Like you said at week three you were starting to see some of the effects.

Im here to tell you right now. when you come to the end of your tren cycle you will feel the effect on your lungs. It will be so bad you will question your decision of using tren.

again if i was a body builder I would say tren would be my favorite. but as an athleate (boxer/MMA teacher) Tren is the worst.

[I Love Lucy]

When you started this post it really was to soon to see any effects yet. Like you said at week three you were starting to see some of the effects.

Im here to tell you right now. when you come to the end of your tren cycle you will feel the effect on your lungs. It will be so bad you will question your decision of using tren.

again if i was a body builder I would say tren would be my favorite. but as an athleate (boxer/MMA teacher) Tren is the worst.

Thanks for the input Kaju... I figured it was to soon but people speak of immediate and explosive results. So i was just wondering. But something is starting to take effect. Test E or Tren. I think it is the test because my body weight has gone up pretty quickly. I was hoping to avoid the bloat from test. Maybe I should cut the test down to 150-200mg per week. I am only doing the tren for 6 weeks, test for 10 (2 weeks prior to tren and 2 weeks after... I will up date again... thanks

[I Love Lucy]

I am going to extend my cycle from 6 weeks of Tren A to 8 and 8 weeks of Test E to 10weeks. Also bumping the Tren A to 100mg EOD instead of .50 or .75 EOD. So far, after finishing 3 weeks, no Tren sides at all. But results are starting to be seen and felt...I'll let you guys know what happens...

[I Love Lucy]

stopped my tren after 4 weeks. i was not getting any of the typical sides but my back and front (Kidney & liver area) started to hurt. Mainly my back. could not differentiate between back pain or kidney so I stopped the tren. I am going to finsh the Test E and go into PCT. Tren is good but the back pain scared me. I agree it is for the hard core only BB's only. The other thing is my BF was probably to high for tren... If I ever do it again I will be at 10%. Most likely test only for me... Thanks for the insight guys

[dudcki27]

stopped my tren after 4 weeks. i was not getting any of the typical sides but my back and front (Kidney & liver area) started to hurt. Mainly my back. could not differentiate between back pain or kidney so I stopped the tren. I am going to finsh the Test E and go into PCT. Tren is good but the back pain scared me. I agree it is for the hard core only BB's only. The other thing is my BF was probably to high for tren... If I ever do it again I will be at 10%. Most likely test only for me... Thanks for the insight guys

The pain you were feeling had nothing to do with your kidneys or liver man. They are just back pumps you are getting in your lower back muscles. 1000-1500mgs of tourine a day would have most likely prevented it. Two of my friends get these pumps from tren if they aren't taking thier taurine. And some extra potassium along side the taurine is needed by some guys also. So you shouldn't have a problem with tren again if you start taurine at the same time. I only get back pumps from var and the taurine helps with that as well.

[Invrt]

The pain you were feeling had nothing to do with your kidneys or liver man. They are just back pumps you are getting in your lower back muscles. 1000-1500mgs of tourine a day would have most likely prevented it. Two of my friends get these pumps from tren if they aren't taking thier taurine. And some extra potassium along side the taurine is needed by some guys also. So you shouldn't have a problem with tren again if you start taurine at the same time. I only get back pumps from var and the taurine helps with that as well.

On tren or NPP I have to use 5000-6000mgs of Taurine a day and 1200mgs of potassium to stop the back pumps. They get so bad I can't stand up. I drink too much water usually 6-9 liters a day and it leaches my potassium.

[DynasTy51]

I have never taken Tren A but I did a PH cycle with a Tren clone in it (spawn) and the back pumps were crazy from it, but of course I did my research so I was expecting it..potassium and taurine were def key to cure the BP's. I loved the strength gains i got from tren as well, will def be adding it to future cycles.

[I Love Lucy]

The pain you were feeling had nothing to do with your kidneys or liver man. They are just back pumps you are getting in your lower back muscles. 1000-1500mgs of tourine a day would have most likely prevented it. Two of my friends get these pumps from tren if they aren't taking thier taurine. And some extra potassium along side the taurine is needed by some guys also. So you shouldn't have a problem with tren again if you start taurine at the same time. I only get back pumps from var and the taurine helps with that as well.

Thanks for the info guys. I was only planning a 6 week on it so i lost the last 2. But now i know... I will just keep what is left and incoprorate into next tren cycle.

[godfather2112]

How are you not feeling anything from tren? My strength blew up after week 1. My joints sure as shit didn't like it.

[I Love Lucy]

The pain you were feeling had nothing to do with your kidneys or liver man. They are just back pumps you are getting in your lower back muscles. 1000-1500mgs of tourine a day would have most likely prevented it. Two of my friends get these pumps from tren if they aren't taking thier taurine. And some extra potassium along side the taurine is needed by some guys also. So you shouldn't have a problem with tren again if you start taurine at the same time. I only get back pumps from var and the taurine helps with that as well.

How are you not feeling anything from tren? My strength blew up after week 1. My joints sure as shit didn't like it.

Not feeling any sides... The positive effects took a few weeks but were good, I have gained about 15lbs after about 4 weeks of tren before i stopped using it. I am using Test E as well but not alot just enough to deal with the tren... 250mg/week... I am going to finish my Test E and then PCT. All in all it feels like typical test E results right now...Maybe in the spring I will try Tren again with a better understanding of the back pains and lower BF%...

[I Love Lucy]

When I first started the thread I spoke to early. I definetly reeped some positive benefits from the Tren. Strength, size and hardness... Next time around i will know what to expect with back pumps... Need to get BF down and i will try tren again maybe in spring... Thanks for all the advice and help with the tren...