Stealth Test E contamination

[samcam]

I received my stealth packets a while ago and was doing my first transfer to a sterile 10ml vial. It took a long time (I didn't know what the f*** I was doing) anyway I did one 10ml vial. A week later, as I was waiting for the rest of my gear, I decided to fill another 10ml vial, this time I was a pro. I have been injecting from this vial 4x's now with no problems. I was examining my first vial and there are several 'floaties' in there, is this normal or did I contaminate it? Our house is rather dusty and I tried to use as sterile conditions as possible but I am thinking I should just trash it, what do you guys think, I hate to do it but it's not worth the risk, oh well we learn from out mistakes.

[jstforme]

did you have a rubber stopper?

[CountVascular]

Jstforme, I am awaiting my stealth gear...I have just received a gazzilion syringes and pins from sterilesyringes(EXCELLENT SERVICE and DELIVERY too)......I have seen guys here decanting the contents of the packet (of whatever amount) into 5 pins, and then injecting as required...Should these be chilled, or are they ok in cool area?

Thanks

[samcam]

did you have a rubber stopper?

The vials were sealed and steril of course.

[chris69]

This shit is so simple I dont see what the problem is , You take the packet and pick which side you are going to cut the corner off of . Push all the contents to the bottom, take the small corner of the packet and clean it on both sides with rubbing alcohal or some form there of.then cut off one of the corners and draw out what you need into the syring do this again with another new syring, for example I am currently using stealth prop and tren ace. So I draw out 1 cc of prop and 1 cc of tren for a total of 2cc in the syring, I do this 5 times and have 5 preloaded syrings with 2cc in each syring. I put them in my safe its room temp and dry. then every morning I pull one out and us it . When my preloads run out I pull out another packet of prop and one of tren and repeat the process , very easy :D

[1scuba]

Well said. That is exactly how I do it too!!!

[samcam]

This shit is so simple I dont see what the problem is , You take the packet and pick which side you are going to cut the corner off of . Push all the contents to the bottom, take the small corner of the packet and clean it on both sides with rubbing alcohal or some form there of.then cut off one of the corners and draw out what you need into the syring do this again with another new syring, for example I am currently using stealth prop and tren ace. So I draw out 1 cc of prop and 1 cc of tren for a total of 2cc in the syring, I do this 5 times and have 5 preloaded syrings with 2cc in each syring. I put them in my safe its room temp and dry. then every morning I pull one out and us it . When my preloads run out I pull out another packet of prop and one of tren and repeat the process , very easy :D

Yes, I realize the simplicity now, I didn't say I was still having problems, I stated the first time I did it I may have contaminated a vial.....that't it....and if 'floaties' were normal or was this from me....end of story. I didn't need the lecture on "this shit is so easy........" I didn't get it right the first time, my mistake.

[tatteredxangelx]

ive done it 10x so far and its still a pain in my ass ... dont sweat it samcam!

[samcam]

ive done it 10x so far and its still a pain in my ass ... dont sweat it samcam!

So do you think I should just throw it out? Thanks.

[tatteredxangelx]

hell no!!! swab it w/ alchohal n shoot it

[SonicCelt]

I'm pretty sure you shouldn't throw it away because it's hazardous stuff. I actually know how to dispose of it correctly so you should do the responsible thing and send it to me.

[rAJJIN]

Yes, I realize the simplicity now, I didn't say I was still having problems, I stated the first time I did it I may have contaminated a vial.....that't it....and if 'floaties' were normal or was this from me....end of story. I didn't need the lecture on "this shit is so easy........" I didn't get it right the first time, my mistake.





Id say 95% chance this is what happen.... When you were Putting it in the sterile vial Peices of the rubber stopper fell into it from the Multiple pokes"
Some of them Rubber stoppers on the sterile vials are Very soft and will chunk off and fall down into your 'stuff' Especially if Using a Larger size needle.

One tip that might help is get a larger Syringe from www.sterilesyringes.com
For filling the Vials. That way your Just putting one hole in the rubber stopper
Vs a Bunch of differant holes. Make sence?

[samcam]

Id say 95% chance this is what happen.... When you were Putting it in the sterile vial Peices of the rubber stopper fell into it from the Multiple pokes"
Some of them Rubber stoppers on the sterile vials are Very soft and will chunk off and fall down into your 'stuff' Especially if Using a Larger size needle.

One tip that might help is get a larger Syringe from www.sterilesyringes.com
For filling the Vials. That way your Just putting one hole in the rubber stopper
Vs a Bunch of differant holes. Make sence?

I was using 10ml syringes, bought them special for this pupose so there is only one puncture hole, I was also using 20ga. needle. So the 'floaties' in there are no big deal? I think I'll just shoot it and hope for the best, thanks for all the replies!

[rAJJIN]

I was using 10ml syringes, bought them special for this pupose so there is only one puncture hole, I was also using 20ga. needle. So the 'floaties' in there are no big deal? I think I'll just shoot it and hope for the best, thanks for all the replies!

Im not sure what they (floaters) could be then?
I never said there ok and I wouldnt advise Injecting it.... I wouldnt Inject something into my Body I had ANY doubts about. If its not peices of the Stopper I have no Idea what you could have gotten in there.... What do you suspect it is? And what did you do differantly in the others you filled that they didnt have any 'floaties in it?

Shoot it and hope for the best is deffinatley not what My advice would be.
Thats not a good way of thinking.

[hismadnessty]

Im not sure what they (floaters) could be then?
I never said there ok and I wouldnt advise Injecting it.... I wouldnt Inject something into my Body I had ANY doubts about. If its not peices of the Stopper I have no Idea what you could have gotten in there.... What do you suspect it is? And what did you do differantly in the others you filled that they didnt have any 'floaties in it?

Shoot it and hope for the best is deffinatley not what My advice would be.
Thats not a good way of thinking.

Agreed... Better safe than sorry.

[Big Ian]

I was using 10ml syringes, bought them special for this pupose so there is only one puncture hole, I was also using 20ga. needle. So the 'floaties' in there are no big deal? I think I'll just shoot it and hope for the best, thanks for all the replies!

That there could be your problem, I found using a 21ga needle I got chunks of stopper in my gear. Now when filling up vials I use a 25ga & have no problems.....

Out of interest with these stealth sachets could you not just peirce the packet with the needle (after swabbing of course) & withdraw the contents that way. As this would surely give less chance of anything contiminating the oil rather than cuting a corner off wouldn't it?

[samcam]

Im not sure what they (floaters) could be then?
I never said there ok and I wouldnt advise Injecting it.... I wouldnt Inject something into my Body I had ANY doubts about. If its not peices of the Stopper I have no Idea what you could have gotten in there.... What do you suspect it is? And what did you do differantly in the others you filled that they didnt have any 'floaties in it?

Shoot it and hope for the best is deffinatley not what My advice would be.
Thats not a good way of thinking.

I'm thinking it is more than likely airborne particles. Looking under one of those heavy duty magnifying lights I can see three particles floating around, I think I am just being paranoid. Thanks anyway. BTW what if someone were to inject part of the rubber stopper, are the chances high that would cause an abcess? thanks.

[CountVascular]

would it be possible to filter it????

And as I am getting the same stealth gear, I am thinking of drawing into the syringe and storing them...Do you guys refrigerate these or just keep em cool? If I draw out with a thicker needle (i bought all from sterilsyringes), should I leave this needle on, and then only put the thinner one on just before injecting??? Thanks

[mirt]

Dunno bout anyone else but this worked for me.... didnt have any vials to decant into so....... placed sachet in cup of hot water (5mins) to heat up the oil and make it more viscous (runny).... then cut the top off, AFTER pushing the oil away from the top half of the sachet....then with 5 ml pin in hand carefully drew out the oil from the bottom corner, they were only 5ml packets.......

Pin was then wrapped in cloth and refrigerated, not frozen.

When required, unwrap and dispense into NEW pin, attach NEW needle and proceed as normal.

and of course put this dispensing pin back in cloth, in fridge...... no dramas

[mirt]

Well Im not sure that posting the point of origin would be a good idea so Ill leave that alone but as for delivery time.....well after confirming transfer with WU MTCN you will get confirmation email with delivery date range and in my case it was at the mid point of the stated range....

[CountVascular]

Sorry Guys, didnt think it thru before asking that.....will delete immediately :o
Tyrone, if you could also delete the quote, if you dont mind...especially if it is offensive.... :)

[Tyrone]

Sorry Guys, didnt think it thru before asking that.....will delete immediately :o
No worries, we just need to make sure if someone does know that it is not posted at least for long :D

[Tyrone]

Sorry Guys, didnt think it thru before asking that.....will delete immediately :o
Tyrone, if you could also delete the quote, if you dont mind...especially if it is offensive.... :)
flyguy, I tried to PM you and it did not work. Said you chose not to recieve pm's or could not. What's up?

[metalmarty]

get a whatman and new vial from sterilesyringes and filter the stuff

[CountVascular]

Sorry Ace, have no Idea how to set it up...have no objections to receiving pms....Grrrrr that should be pm's.......PMS is what biatches use as an excuse to keep us blokes in check!!! :D

[moseslok]

If you are afraid that it is contaminated then don't use it.. None of us will know cause we can't see the vial..

Another possibility is to draw the oil out, plug it thru a filter and filter it into another clean, sterile vial.. If you are still paranoid, do this a few times. You might lose a couple of milligrams of gear per ml in the process but its better then shooting it and ending up in the hospital..

[SinuS]

Hey guys, I just don't want to create another topic, so I will ask it here. I will order some Stealth products from Alin, and wandering if it's safe to use one big syringe (lets say 20 ml) to keep the gear in it, for 10 weeks or so, and only change the needle at each shot. I think it will be a useful method, for not loosing some gear durring the process (like when I transfer it from sachet to vial) ... I will just take out the gear from each sachet with the same syringe, and only use 2 ml or so .... at each shot, but using a different needle to be more safer.

But I'm still asking myself if its safe to keep the gear in the syringe for so long ... although the syringe should be sterile inside!

[CountVascular]

But why :confused: Syringes are cheap, one single stuff up and you lose all your gear, and risk infection...for the sake of drawing it into seperate ones, is it really worth it....if it got buggered half way thru a cycle, what would/could you do??????????????????

[sszapdog]

suck the floaties out with an 18g pin. done

[Rhandhular]

So do you think I should just throw it out? Thanks.
No, next time use a smaller gauge needle when you transfer into vials. Rubber floaters are common and generally will not transfer to the syringe while you are loading your gear. You will be fine.

[Rhandhular]

suck the floaties out with an 18g pin. done
18 gauge pin will probally cause more floaters.

[sszapdog]

he must have a styrafoam top