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hardgainer9000
07-26-2010, 02:54 PM
So I'm off juice now been 1 whole week and 2 days! Started doing HCG this past week and sadly on Friday I must have hit a vein! :( Felt like shit after with site pain from the injection, gonna use my glute or shoulder next with aspirating using 29g insulin pin. Well I've been having these weird headaches in the back of my neck, hot flashes, feel like shit eating. What is up, sensitive nipples too but not gyno. What could this be. Happy to report flacidgainer is out and hardgainer is back, thank you cabergoline. It was the prolocatin from Deca, even got my levels tested. But that's been a week ago.

fr8lnr01
07-26-2010, 05:45 PM
This is a subQ injection: not IM!

hardgainer9000
07-26-2010, 06:12 PM
I for sure hit something there cause it bled out quite a bit and felt like shit for a while after. HCG is painful though even with insulin needle, since it is water based I can see why that it. Now answer the important question regarding my symptoms, I am getting the depression a bit. Why would that be while on HCG?

mrvtwin80
07-26-2010, 10:25 PM
I for sure hit something there cause it bled out quite a bit and felt like shit for a while after. HCG is painful though even with insulin needle, since it is water based I can see why that it. Now answer the important question regarding my symptoms, I am getting the depression a bit. Why would that be while on HCG?

Is that depression and feeling like shit too? Sounds like your just crashing from the juice.I have felt realty like shit after some of my cycles!
I'll be going the HRT route soon and that should make things a whole lot easier for me.I would have used the HCG during my cycle not after.

CaptAppleJax
07-27-2010, 08:29 AM
I for sure hit something there cause it bled out quite a bit and felt like shit for a while after. HCG is painful though even with insulin needle, since it is water based I can see why that it. Now answer the important question regarding my symptoms, I am getting the depression a bit. Why would that be while on HCG?

It sounds like your Estro up and your Test dropping (you sound like you are having PMS). You'll recover - just keep reminding yourself... no need for crazy.

My HCG doesn't hurt at all - zero pain.. hmmmm

WSPHXPELON
07-27-2010, 12:10 PM
This is a subQ injection: not IM!

I thought HCG could be pinned ether way?

hardgainer9000
07-27-2010, 05:19 PM
Thanks guys for the help. Yeah I get these headaches from time to time coming off juice, my doctor explained to me it's because your HPTA and Pituitary gland are coming back because my headaches are at the back of my head near the cervical part of my spine. Yeah I will definitely be doing HCG next time one cycle, what do you recommend for IU's per week? Thanks guys for the help.

CaptAppleJax
07-28-2010, 06:45 AM
Remember - per weeks doesn't mean jack shit - HCG sends a signel to the boys to stay active... it's only in your system for 24 hours or so... No build up. As for dosage, I do 500iu E5D on cycle only as per Alin. But everyone is different - I inject 29g 1/1" pins to delts.

My boys never climb above half mast so the dosage is right for me - have not experienced any negative sides.

Mujita07
07-28-2010, 07:48 AM
It can be pinned either way. There was a study that showed IM was more effective but not my much.

kaju
07-28-2010, 11:49 AM
Some one can correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sure they will.
My understanding of hcg is it was old school to use after your cycle to aid in pct. new school is and I read this somewhere but cannot remember where but hcg should be run during cycle every four days. It keeps the testicles in working order even though they are not producing. then when you start pct they are ready to start and do not need to build up over two to three weeks. The hcg should be shot subQ as if you were shooting insulin. The same theory holds for insulin and hcg to be shot subq applies.

I'm glad you at least understand your htpa and pituitary need time to straighten out. I have been through this before and like you I ate like shit until I got everything in order. it is a tough few weeks until you are back in line.
hang in there.