New Cycle Suggestions???

[henryhairyballs]

hey guys, i'm ready to plan my 2nd cycle. My first cycle went great. gained 32lbs! but now im shrinking cause its such hot weather and have caught 2 viruses that made me tiny lol.. I reacted great to Sustanon 250, Dbol, test E, proviron. my currents body stats are:

Height: 5'6''
Weight:168lbs
BF%:6%
Been training for 6 years

This is me now @ 168lbs
http://alinboard.com/picture.php?albumid=80&pictureid=496

I want to get to 190- 195lbs and be a beast!! haha any input and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. Im not starting till it gets cold around october. so i got plenty of time to plan. Im leaning towards DECA, some form of test E, dbol, proviron, CLOMID and NOLVADEX for pct. I had a bit of a problem coming off last time. I was shutdown bad even after the pct for about 2 weeks. my penis was officially dead. sucked bad.. i took libido maxx, some natural herbal horny goat weeds everyday for 3 weeks and i retuned to normal. I think my clomis was 50mg dbol because they were pink and i all of a sudden got BAD ACNE AND GAINED MORE WEIGHT!!! Hope that dont happen again!

[Invrt]

Short Ester cycle:
Test prop
NPP
Masteron

Long Ester cycle:
Test E
Deca
Masteron E

Good to go and keep it simple

[henryhairyballs]

like the long ester cycle.. thinking 500mg of test E, 200 of deca. maybe running it 12 weeks again. first 5 weeks DBOL @ 30mg. proviron at 25mg/day maybe up it to 50mg. but hell.. MY DANG DINGALING STAYED HARD 24/7 with 25mg! im scared it would blow up with 50mg


by the way guys.I have looked at hybrids. my bud has one thats a 500mg/mL strength. It contains 100mg of tren enanthate, 200 of test e, 200 of deca.. called QDR 5hundred. ***********. not heard anything about it tho. that would come in great handy trying to avoid pinning as much. just asking yall cause my bud was curious on what he has.

[Jello]

like the long ester cycle.. thinking 500mg of test E, 200 of deca. maybe running it 12 weeks again. first 5 weeks DBOL @ 30mg. proviron at 25mg/day maybe up it to 50mg. but hell.. MY DANG DINGALING STAYED HARD 24/7 with 25mg! im scared it would blow up with 50mg


by the way guys.I have looked at hybrids. my bud has one thats a 500mg/mL strength. It contains 100mg of tren enanthate, 200 of test e, 200 of deca.. called QDR 5hundred. *************. not heard anything about it tho. that would come in great handy trying to avoid pinning as much. just asking yall cause my bud was curious on what he has.

That's a new product and you need to keep in mind that high concentrations like that hurt like hell.

As far as a cycle goes, I would recommend running something to help with strength over weight/size. With you wanting to fight and being your height you may want to stay in the lower weight class. Not saying you can't do it, it's just being a little short and trying to take on the bigger guys may not be too fun. Just a thought.

[henryhairyballs]

Ya that's absolutely true jello. I'm wanting size. I train mma but I don't compete. So I just would love to gain as much as I can. So high concentrations hurt.. Its a 500 strength. I'm thinking of pinnin test e on Sundays and deca on thursdays.

[henryhairyballs]

Weeks 1-10: 500mg Test E, 200mg Equipose, 25mg Proviron ED
Weeks 1-6: 30mg DBOL ED

PCT:
Week 13: 100mg Clomid ED, 60mg Nolvadex ED
Week 14: 50mg Clomid ED, 40mg Nolvadex ED
Week 15: 50mg Clomid ED, 20mg Nolvadex ED

I want to add PROVIRON into my pct.. how should I do that or what do I substitute? and is there any suggestions?

[dudcki27]

Weeks 1-10: 500mg Test E, 200mg Equipose, 25mg Proviron ED
Weeks 1-6: 30mg DBOL ED

PCT:
Week 13: 100mg Clomid ED, 60mg Nolvadex ED
Week 14: 50mg Clomid ED, 40mg Nolvadex ED
Week 15: 50mg Clomid ED, 20mg Nolvadex ED

I want to add PROVIRON into my pct.. how should I do that or what do I substitute? and is there any suggestions?

200mg a week of eq is a very low dose man. I did it at 400mg a week and wasn't impressed at all. Shit I've known some people to do 600mg a week and say that they won't even do eq again. Instead of adding the eq have you ever thought about just bumping the test enth up to 750mg a week? As for the pct with proviron superbeast22 has a thread on it some where here so just search for it man.

[Jello]

Weeks 1-10: 500mg Test E, 200mg Equipose, 25mg Proviron ED
Weeks 1-6: 30mg DBOL ED

PCT:
Week 13: 100mg Clomid ED, 60mg Nolvadex ED
Week 14: 50mg Clomid ED, 40mg Nolvadex ED
Week 15: 50mg Clomid ED, 20mg Nolvadex ED

I want to add PROVIRON into my pct.. how should I do that or what do I substitute? and is there any suggestions?

Run the EQ @600 and keep the Proviron to your cycle only. Leave the PCT as is.

Be prepared to eat like you never have before with the EQ that high. My wife hates it when I raun EQ because I never seem to get full.

[henryhairyballs]

Weeks 1-10: 500mg Test E, 25mg Proviron ED
Weeks 1-8: Equipose (wks 1-3: 300mg, wks 4-5:400mg, wks 6-8: 300mg)
Weeks 1-6: 30mg DBOL ED

PCT:
Week 15: 100mg Clomid ED, 60mg Nolvadex ED
Week 16: 50mg Clomid ED, 40mg Nolvadex ED
Week 17: 50mg Clomid ED, 20mg Nolvadex ED

[Jello]

EQ needs to be ran for at least 10 weeks but I start to see gains flatten out at about 15-16. No need to taper the dose and 300 is just not enough. I run EQ at 400 when I combine it with Deca or else I go to 600.

[henryhairyballs]

Aite cool. I'm only 165lbs. Would equipose @600 be any harm. That's a lota juice to inject. Frequent injections gona make me sore lol. Ill run equipose for 10weeks and test enanthate for 12 @ 500. Ill have to make anuther order if I need to rub equipose @ 600. I have stealth eq200. 20mLs. I could run 400 for 10 weeks. And I also saw lab tests on this forum stating that eq was overdosed @287mg/mL. Any more suggestions? I really appreciate the help jello.

[xvvfacevvx]

After looking over your old log on your first cycle and seeing your current stats I have some advice for ya. You were up to 180 something from 150 something, now you are 165. You said in your old thread that you cut down to 168 for mma but on this thread you said you only train, and you dont compete. On this thread you said you lost weight because of the heat, and sickness. This leads me to believe that after PCT you slowly dropped weight every week, probably as much as 4 lbs in a week. I remember OJS picking apart your before and afters, thou I dont agree with his attitude, I am start ing to lean toward his side, the majority of your gains were water. I would challenge you to try and gain 10lbs wihile maintaing the same BF% before you cycle again. You seem like an open minded smart individual so I know you will take this the right way. Good luck

[henryhairyballs]

Ya man I kno. I've also changes my diet and haven't been eatin. I'm highly anemic. Thalesemia trait. I will do what I can. My goal is to get to 190 and stay bulked. Any other cycle suggestions? I stayed 176lbs after pct for a while until I quit eating like I suppose to.

[henryhairyballs]

I figured taking a b12 injection would increase My appetite. But hell. It had a paradoxial effect on me. It completely made me not hungry. I'm looking for options to help resolve my anemia prob. I can't absord much iron. Transfusions actually lowered my hemoglobin count. I work my butt off to gain 5 lbs naturally. Lol.

[henryhairyballs]

Also... I'm willing to thro deca in with it. It'll be December before I cycle again. I'm planning early. Mainly bulking and strength. Throw me a cycle out here. Lol. I consider all opinions. Would rather have long ester cycles.

[xvvfacevvx]

Maybe you dont need to use AAS. There are allot of people who simply cannot hold onto the gains Post cycle. After my first cycle I was 210 at 15%. I dropped down to 195ish (my weight flux's 5-7lbs on any given day) at 9-10% BF. So all in all I kept all my lean mass gained. However, just like you, If Im not eating at least 5 meals a day I will lose quickly. In my experience when you jump weight quickly you will lose quickly, but if you maintain that new weight for an extended period of time 8-10 months, your body will adapt and make that be the new "normal" body weight.
But to answer your question about deca, its very good for bulking, however you seem to carry water very easily so I would steer clear of it. Try to do a lean bulker, Test prop EOD alongside some Tbol at 50mg a day. I feel this route would work best for you. good luck.

[henryhairyballs]

Ok thanks bro. That sounds good.

[henryhairyballs]

Wk1: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 30mg dbol ed, 25mg provirion ed

Wk2: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 30mg dbol ed, 25mg proviron ed

Wk3: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 30mg dbol ed, 25mg proviron ed

Wk4: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 30mg dbol ed, 25mg proviron ed

Wk5: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 30mg dbol ed, 25mg proviron ed

Wk6: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 30mg dbol ed, 25mg proviron ed

Wk7: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 25mg proviron ed

Wk8: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 25mg proviron ed

Wk9: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 25mg proviron ed

Wk10: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 25mg proviron ed

Wk11: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 25mg proviron ed

Wk12: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 25mg proviron ed, 30mg dbol ed

Wk13: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 25mg proviron ed, 30mg dbol ed

Wk14: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 25mg proviron ed, 30mg dbol ed

Wk15: 250mg test e, 200mg EQ, 25mg proviron ed, 30mg dbol ed

Wk16: 25mg proviron ed

PcT:
Wk17: 100mg clomid , 60mg nolvadex, 25 mg proviron
Wk18: 50mg clomid, 40mg nolvadex, 25mg proviron
Wk19:50mg clomid, 20mg nolvadex, 25mg proviron

This is a low dose prolonged cycle I'm debating on using. I originally wanted to do 500 test and 600 eq. But I'm thinking of low dosage longer with a dbol bridge. Will taking proviron harm me if I eat 25mg ed for 19 weeks? It is not liver toxic but it gives me massive boners.

[countryboyWVU]

It will take almost 6 weeks for you to start noticing results besides water bloat from the dbol. Why not run shorter esters. Better the results in half the time. Are you uncomfortable with needles?

I say drop the EQ, and run NPP. Youll have much better results. maybe even run sust instead of test E.

I mean your worried about recovery. But yet you want to run a 16 weeker? Your worried about the wrong things. Dosage isnt going to effect you as much as the length of time. Even doubling your dosage would most likely not effect your recovery time as much at the length.

Run sust and NPP for 12 weeks. Safer and more along the lines of what you are worried about.

[countryboyWVU]

For half the price, you could get hcg. instead of prov

[henryhairyballs]

Not trying to ignore your opinion jello. But I'm just throwing out some more wild plans. I was told by a Dr. To run it for 20-26wks. And to keep the low dose. He told me gains would be slower but thyy would stick twice as good. It'll be more quality muscle than a quick gain with water rentention. Also stated its better for blood pressure reasons too. Wats your input? I'm on no hurry to start so I'm very open minded. Thanks again.

[henryhairyballs]

Ok thanks country boy. What if I chose 500 test e. And 400 eq . 25-50mg proviron and 30mg dbol for 10 weeks? Higher dosage with shorter time.

[henryhairyballs]

And I did sust at 500 a week my previous cycle for 12weeks. It was goodddddd. In the middle of my cycle. I added 100mg test e with it for 4 weeks then I really blew up. I like sust but pinnin Mon wed Fri and Sunday then Tues thurs sat.. And so on..got old. I got the effects of the prop and other short esters but I was flamed for only wanting to pin once a week with 500. So ill take that into consideration. Thanks man.

[s-jay]

I did 2 cycles of QDR5hundred, 1mL 2x per week with 25mg d-bol daily. This was my first time with any type of anabolics, i gained 45 pounds in 10 weeks. When i went off cycle i dropped about 15 of it, but have since put most of that back on. I'm at 195 now at 5'10", not sure of my BF%, but i'd guess around 15%.

I'm not sure what this HURT is that jello was talking about, but I felt incredible on it. more energy than i knew what to do with. sex 5 times a day and still wanted more. recovery times were overnight, couldn't sleep more than 3 hours a night and had to force myself to leave the gym when my set was done...I couldnt' get enough.

[Masterchief117]

Where would one get this QDR? Is it in Alins shop? If so I did not see it

[s-jay]

QDR5hundred is 100mg test E, 100mg test C, 100mg tren and 200mg Deca D. I had a link for online sales, but it seems to be gone now. I'm looking again though. anyone know what happened to anabolisants.**net

[JUICEDUP3]

i would up the dbol as well.... at least 50-60mg ed for the first 4-5 weeks

[s-jay]

odd timing...I just found out through my source that Axio got busted...this was one of their new Syntrop combos. I'm sure you'll find it again later, but for now it's not available