Adding Prami to a 19-nor cycle

[Invrt]

I decided to add prami to this tren cycle. My last 2 tren cycles and my NPP cycle I got Fina dick and deca dick. I tried bumping my test up to almost 2 times the 19-nor with little help.

This is my first experience with prami and from the research I've done it's a very personal experience. Some get insomnia some get sleepy and some get real fucked up sides (like compulsive behavior).

So far for me the biggest side is feeling like I popped a 20mg of ambien 1-2 hours after. It was a huge problem since I thought that insomnia would be my side and I took it in the am. I now hit it at night and it really helps with the insomnia from the tren. No fina dick so far and lots of "Good" sides :D;) The wife is happy. I've dropped the prop to tren ace ratio to 1:1 and still all good.

Please add in your experience with prami. It seems to be one compound that has one of the widest ranges of good and bad sides.

[Jello]

I ran Prami with my last Tren cycle. Don't know if that's what kept me from getting the famous sides everyone complains about with Tren or if I just don't get them. I ran .3 mg in the morning and another .3 at night before bed. Wasn't tired in the morning but slept like a baby at night.

What dose are you running it at?

[Invrt]

I ran Prami with my last Tren cycle. Don't know if that's what kept me from getting the famous sides everyone complains about with Tren or if I just don't get them. I ran .3 mg in the morning and another .3 at night before bed. Wasn't tired in the morning but slept like a baby at night.

What dose are you running it at?

Started at .25mg now I'm at .5mg once a day. Both dosages same sides good and bad if you could call sleeping on tren a side:D

[dudcki27]

My last tren cycle I was 500-600mg a week parabolan with my usual low dose of test with it and I didn't have any tren sides while running .5mg a day of prami. After a week the little bit of night sweats I had were gone and I never had a problem sleeping. The only side I had was a lack of endurance but prami won't help with that. My next tren cycle will be 800mg-900mg a week and I'll be curious if it helps with the sides at that dose.

[lostwars]

would prolactin progesterone have an impact on ones sexual performance?
could be thats what causes your erotic desire to hit the skids, these are common sides with 19nor aas
a little caber would do the job

whats prami?

[crfpilot14]

would prolactin progesterone have an impact on ones sexual performance?
could be thats what causes your erotic desire to hit the skids, these are common sides with 19nor aas
a little caber would do the job

whats prami?

Yes, prolactin will kill your libidio. Pramipexole is a dopamine receptor agonist not unlike cabergoline...these meds inhibit prolactin. These meds can have some nasty sides so be careful...and coming off of them can be a chore. The good sexual sides are much more apparent at doses around 1mg.

[lostwars]

i see, thanks

[jrsnarls]

Yes, prolactin will kill your libidio. Pramipexole is a dopamine receptor agonist not unlike cabergoline...these meds inhibit prolactin. These meds can have some nasty sides so be careful...and coming off of them can be a chore. The good sexual sides are much more apparent at doses around 1mg.

wha are some of the sides with caber or prami that u speak of
and how is it a chore to come off those drugs?:confused:. do u mean u can become addicted, or dependant on them?

[Alin]

Ive yet to use PRAMI myself but am real curious to hear your guys experiences.

[Invrt]

Ive yet to use PRAMI myself but am real curious to hear your guys experiences.

From the research I've done prami is a paradoxical experience. Some people get insomnia... others like me get sleepy. It also seems to be very dose dependant. All I can do is give my experience.

Started at .25mg in the am and felt like I took 20mg of ambien...totally out of it. Then I dosed at night and slept like a baby. Still woke up for my 3am pee. Bumped it up to .5mg and it was still good. Last night I bumped it up to .75 and was out of it for most of the morning.:mad:

This shit is the bomb for me on a tren cycle. Normally I'm a total asshole until I workout or get laid (and on my last 2 cycles my dick quit working). Adding the prami has smoothed out the tren. No anger management classes and my dick still works. So for me at .5mged at night is working well. I'm going to try and get to 1mg but don't know if I'll make it. I'm also going to taper down starting 3 weeks from the end of my cycle.

[Invrt]

wha are some of the sides with caber or prami that u speak of
and how is it a chore to come off those drugs?:confused:. do u mean u can become addicted, or dependant on them?

Watch the movie "Awakenings" LOL :D:D:D:eek:

From Wikipedia:

Several unusual adverse effects of pramipexole (and related D3-preferring dopamine agonist medications such as ropinirole) may include compulsive gambling, hypersexuality, and overeating,[12] even in patients without any prior history of these behaviours.[13] Other compulsive behaviors, such as excessive shopping and even cross-dressing, have been reported.[14] These side effects are thought to be linked to the D3 activity of pramipexole, as D3 receptors are heavily expressed in brain regions involved in mood, behavior, and reward.[15]


At least now I have an excuse for cross-dressing, playing craps and hitting the buffet :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:cool::cool::cool:;)

[crfpilot14]

Most experience some sort of depression after coming off...low doses usually cause drowsiness and the higher doses cause insomnia. Higher doses will give the experiences noted above...if you have an addictive type personality, this is gonna make it worse. The sexual sides at 1mg are worth it. ;)

[Invrt]

I've worked my way up to 1mgED. Still get sleepy at first. After I'm asleep for about 3hrs I start to wake up every hour. Although that's not any different than if I was on my tren cycle without the prami. But the best thing is definitly no "fina dick" ! Quite the opposite. I've also noticed a considerable loss in appetite at the 1mg mark. I think if I was to use the prami on a bulker with Deca I'd stay at the .5mg for the increased sleep and I wouldn't want to lose my appetite. I'll keep you posted.

[jrsnarls]

Watch the movie "Awakenings" LOL :D:D:D:eek:

From Wikipedia:

Several unusual adverse effects of pramipexole (and related D3-preferring dopamine agonist medications such as ropinirole) may include compulsive gambling, hypersexuality, and overeating,[12] even in patients without any prior history of these behaviours.[13] Other compulsive behaviors, such as excessive shopping and even cross-dressing, have been reported.[14] These side effects are thought to be linked to the D3 activity of pramipexole, as D3 receptors are heavily expressed in brain regions involved in mood, behavior, and reward.[15]


At least now I have an excuse for cross-dressing, playing craps and hitting the buffet :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:cool::cool::cool:;)

i watched that movie, its frign weird. lol but at least i understand a lil better how these things work.
those are soe pretty funny sides tho haha

[Essentially87]

What dosage are you running the Tren at Invrt? Mind posting your current cycle? Just curious.

[Invrt]

What dosage are you running the Tren at Invrt? Mind posting your current cycle? Just curious.



Prami kicked my ass at 1mgED:o I was walking around like a Zombie. The problems I was having on my cycle ended up being from excess estrogen see my other post on this.

http://alinboard.com/showthread.php?t=30620

Current cycle and all is good now with 25mgED of Aromasin and .5mg prami

Wks 1-3 Captains Clen/T3 cycle(T3 tapered down to 25mcg by the end of cycle. Running 100mcg weeks 2-8)
Wks 1-10 Prop 525wk
Wks 1-10 Mast 560wk
Wks 4-10 Tren ace 350wk
Aromasin 25mgED
Prami .5mgED
HCG 600iuE5D
Taurine 6000mgED
Pottasium 600mg2xED
Magnesium
Caber on hand

[Steelman213]

I'm thinking of adding tren to my next cycle. Is Prami really an almost necessity when using tren or will other AI's work too? I'm just worried about the possibility of gyno.

[Invrt]

I'm thinking of adding tren to my next cycle. Is Prami really an almost necessity when using tren or will other AI's work too? I'm just worried about the possibility of gyno.

Not at all. I've never added it to my tren cycles before. I always make sure I have caber or cabaser on hand in case of prog related gyno. However you shouldn't have any problems with gyno as long as you are using an anti-e during cycle, I strongly suggest aromasin at 25mgED

[Invrt]

This is a good thread from another board.

http://www.afboard.com/forum/showthread.php?30264-Pramipexole-and-prolactin-suppression-prevention-vs.-treatment-dosing

[Jello]

Macro is on PM also and posts a lot about Prami and it's proper use. Tons of great information from that guy.

[Justyn]

I am on 300mg test E3D, 200mg Deca E3D and 40mg Var ED. I started out with .125mg of Prami ED at night and the sides were terrible- I would only sleep 2 or 3 hours then wake up with my mind racing. I upped it to .25mg and now take it about 3 hours before bed. No more sleep problems and the best part is that I am banging my girl like when I was 20. I'm talking 3-4 times a day and I would more but she gets sore. Seriously I'm more horny on this shit then on a regular test cycle. I love it!