your guy's thoughts.

[aceps69]

Hello,

I'm about a month out before I begin a cycle. I'm going to try something totally different from what I usually do. I'm going to run short ester AAS like 5 weeks on 5 weeks off, repeat until desired goal is reached. I've read articles on this and still not 100% on what to run for best results. I'm looking to stack test prop dbol with something else. what do you guys think??

5'7
175
14% bf

Thanks

[rclifter]

5 weeks seem too short for a cycle but then again I've never run test. Where did you read that from?

[xvvfacevvx]

Allot of people run prop for 5-8 weeks, PCT 5-8 off and then back on. superbeast has some experience in the dep't let him chime in.

[dr intensity]

bro i wud suggest 8 to 10 weeks on and 10 weeks off or cruise untill your reach your target.

now while on or off ( both blast and cruise) do 1000iu HCG/week.
along with Aromasin or arimidex( Aromatase inhibitor is a must with aromatizable compounds).... keep some nolvadex just incase those gyno sysmtoms appear.
throw in clomid for 2 to 3 weeks in your cruise period. ( extra intermittent HPTA upregulating signals).

doing this will help you recover faster when you completely come off...
of course if you need to prolong your FINAL PCT will depend upon your blood work..
therefore keep having those blood works every 10 weeks

just my opinion

[dr intensity]

a study you may be intrested in

Myostatin overshoot

This abstract and the full study indicate that a powerful growth inhibitor myostatin increases significantly by day 56 in men administering testosterone. This may explain why most gains tend to plateau around week 8 or 9 of a standard cycle. The study indicates that myostatin returns to baseline around week 20 of a testosterone cycle so this gives us insight on how to design a cycle. Either run a 8 week cycle OR run 20 plus week cycles (stay on).

Myostatin is a gene, one of the units of heredity consisting of a sequence of deoxyribonucleic acid(DNA) that determines the inherited characteristics of every individual. It is a gene that contributes to the differentiation in growth factors, including physical size, and regulates muscle development.

Measurement of myostatin concentrations in human serum: Circulating concentrations in young and older men and effects of testosterone administration.

Lakshman KM, Bhasin S, Corcoran C, Collins-Racie LA, Tchistiakova L, Forlow SB, St Ledger K, Burczynski ME, Dorner AJ, Lavallie ER.
Section of Endocrinology, Diabetes, and Nutrition, Boston University School of Medicine, Boston Medical Center, 670 Albany Street, Boston, MA 02118, United States.

Methodological problems, including binding of myostatin to plasma proteins and cross-reactivity of assay reagents with other proteins, have confounded myostatin measurements. Here we describe development of an accurate assay for measuring myostatin concentrations in humans. Monoclonal antibodies that bind to distinct regions of myostatin served as capture and detector antibodies in a sandwich ELISA that used acid treatment to dissociate myostatin from binding proteins. Serum from myostatin-deficient Belgian Blue cattle was used as matrix and recombinant human myostatin as standard. The quantitative range was 0.15-37.50 ng/mL. Intra- and inter-assay CVs in low, mid, and high range were 4.1%, 4.7%, and 7.2%, and 3.9%, 1.6%, and 5.2%, respectively. Myostatin protein was undetectable in sera of Belgian Blue cattle and myostatin knockout mice. Recovery in spiked sera approximated 100%. ActRIIB-Fc or anti-myostatin antibody MYO-029 had no effect on myostatin measurements when assayed at pH 2.5. Myostatin levels were higher in young than older men (mean+/-S.E.M. 8.0+/-0.3 ng/mL vs. 7.0+/-0.4 ng/mL, P=0.03). In men treated with graded doses of testosterone, myostatin levels were significantly higher on day 56 than baseline in both young and older men; changes in myostatin levels were significantly correlated with changes in total and free testosterone in young men. Myostatin levels were not significantly associated with lean body mass in either young or older men. CONCLUSION: Myostatin ELISA has the characteristics of a valid assay: nearly 100% recovery, excellent precision, accuracy, and sufficient sensitivity to enable measurement of myostatin concentrations in men and women.

[AlwaysBanned]

5 weeks seem too short for a cycle but then again I've never run test. Where did you read that from?

5 weeks is plenty with test prop. I have done 5 weeks on 5 weeks off before and it builds you up great.

Hello,

I'm about a month out before I begin a cycle. I'm going to try something totally different from what I usually do. I'm going to run short ester AAS like 5 weeks on 5 weeks off, repeat until desired goal is reached. I've read articles on this and still not 100% on what to run for best results. I'm looking to stack test prop dbol with something else. what do you guys think??

5'7
175
14% bf

Thanks

I am very interested in how this turns out for you. Prop and Dbol for five weeks, pct for a week then a month later back on Prop and Dbol...

Sounds fun to me bro. Dont add anything else. That would be overkill.

[aceps69]

Thanks guys I appreciate your guy's opinion. Once I start up I'll post results and pics. I'm still in the process of designing my cycles. for a while im going to run the shorter cycles with the shorter esters and see how this works for me.

[swimfan30]

Just take always banned's advice!

[AlwaysBanned]

Thanks guys I appreciate your guy's opinion. Once I start up I'll post results and pics. I'm still in the process of designing my cycles. for a while im going to run the shorter cycles with the shorter esters and see how this works for me.

I really love short esters. They are quicker, more effective products in my opinion.

Keep us updated on how this goes for you!

[Jello]

I believe he slower you put it on the more of it you will keep when you come off. This is why 12 week cycles are a minimum for me. Get blood work done and keep safe.

[aceps69]

Yeah, I've ran longer cycles in the past...honestly tho with my experience with AAS I would get sick results and then hit peak and my gains would slow down. Forcing me to up my dosage and the sides began to kick in. I'm just coming off a horrible shoulder injury and lost a good amount of weight and size. I'm down to 175... so im looking to build up. I've read up on this method of cycling and some buddies do this and say its great. So im going to give it a try..

[aceps69]

Hello bros!
I have a question and I would like your guys input. Im running Test prop 5 weeks on and instead of the Dbol im subing Anadrol instead. Been told Anadrol is like popeyes spinache! However I want to include another AAS I'm wanting trenbolone Acetate im gearing toward short esters 5 on 5 off repeat....anyone else that is into this method know a better stacker?

[AlwaysBanned]

Hello bros!
I have a question and I would like your guys input. Im running Test prop 5 weeks on and instead of the Dbol im subing Anadrol instead. Been told Anadrol is like popeyes spinache! However I want to include another AAS I'm wanting trenbolone Acetate im gearing toward short esters 5 on 5 off repeat....anyone else that is into this method know a better stacker?


Yeah. Prop and Masteron. Forget the Anadrol. You are making things too complicated bro.