Dbol

[crashbam]

Quick question.... This is my first time frontloading a cycle, and first time doing Orals... I frontload D-bol for 6 weeks on a test E, Eq cycle and I am having a hard time falling asleep... I slept a total of about 4 hours in 2 nights, whereas I'd easily get 16... I even tried to take them earlier. I wake up extremely early of work, and finish work b4 noon then go right to the gym. I take 3 Dbol when I wake up (4-5 am) and 3 about an hour b4 the gym. Do you guys thing the no sleep and anxiety like attacks are from the d-bol??? Am I taking them correctly???should I do something different???any help would be great.

thanks

[OuchThatHurts]

Quick question.... This is my first time frontloading a cycle, and first time doing Orals... I frontload D-bol for 6 weeks on a test E, Eq cycle and I am having a hard time falling asleep... I slept a total of about 4 hours in 2 nights, whereas I'd easily get 16... I even tried to take them earlier. I wake up extremely early of work, and finish work b4 noon then go right to the gym. I take 3 Dbol when I wake up (4-5 am) and 3 about an hour b4 the gym. Do you guys thing the no sleep and anxiety like attacks are from the d-bol??? Am I taking them correctly???should I do something different???any help would be great.

thanks
Very, very common (insomnia not anxiety). I've tried everything but 3-5 grams of L-tryp with half an ambien does the trick for me.

Other times, you feel like you could sleep a week. Welcome to HRT (or whatever it is you're doing there)

[crashbam]

thanks for the reply... I kinda figured it was the Dbol doing it... a few hours after I take them I feel like I can chew my own arm off. I was a little concerned 'cause my friend frontloads with anadrol every cycle 2 times a year with on 12 week cycles and he always seems ok... I have some 3mg melatonin (sp?) that i'll have to try. At the risk of sounding dumb, what's HRT???

thanks again

[s14358g]

I also front loaded with D-Bol. A buddy of mine that had the same problem before put me on to a simple supplement that you can get almost anywhere very cheap. It is called Melatonin. It is the chemical your body produces naturally that makes you go to sleep. Just get some of these (I have the 300MCG) and take a couple before bed. If you want even more simple try Bendryl. A couple of those always knock me out. I rotate Melatonin and Bendryl every other night just to keep my body from getting resistant. Try it and let me know if it also works for you. :D

[OuchThatHurts]

thanks for the reply... I kinda figured it was the Dbol doing it... a few hours after I take them I feel like I can chew my own arm off. I was a little concerned 'cause my friend frontloads with anadrol every cycle 2 times a year with on 12 week cycles and he always seems ok... I have some 3mg melatonin (sp?) that i'll have to try. At the risk of sounding dumb, what's HRT???

thanks again
HRT just means Hormone Replacement Therapy. I've started cycles with dbol, ended them, did it throughout, pretty much everything. It makes me feel great and my appetite is great. Of course it usually is anyway. Sadly, the gains with dbol disappear as fast as they appear. Melatonin works for me but after reading an article on it, I decided to stop taking it. It's only made in very small quantities by the pineal gland and prolonged use can effect your natural amounts. Benadryl will put you out but will usually leave you feeling groggy the next day.

[J-Birdo]

Quick question.... This is my first time frontloading a cycle, and first time doing Orals... I frontload D-bol for 6 weeks on a test E, Eq cycle and I am having a hard time falling asleep... I slept a total of about 4 hours in 2 nights, whereas I'd easily get 16... I even tried to take them earlier. I wake up extremely early of work, and finish work b4 noon then go right to the gym. I take 3 Dbol when I wake up (4-5 am) and 3 about an hour b4 the gym. Do you guys thing the no sleep and anxiety like attacks are from the d-bol??? Am I taking them correctly???should I do something different???any help would be great.

thanks

I'm on the same cycle, but I'm doing the D-Bol in the middle of mine. I just started mine one week ago today (Wednesday).

[tatteredxangelx]

My 2 cents:

don't mess with sleeping aids, they are WAY addicting, I have a good friend who can't get off. If a supplement is making you that restless, and you can't work around it, I would stop taking it. Than again, Ouch is a DR/Scientist/nerd so he may know something I don't :p

[crashbam]

Yeah, I can see how sleep aids are addictive... For instance NyQuil puts me out like a drunken cheerleader on Zima, and I wont stop till the bottle is gone, sick or not. Sad really... hehe

[Tyrone]

Yeah, I can see how sleep aids are addictive... For instance NyQuil puts me out like a drunken cheerleader on Zima, and I wont stop till the bottle is gone, sick or not. Sad really... hehe
I also wake up early for work. Like 2:30am and if I have lack of sleep for a week or so for whatever reason I feal anxiety on the drive home. It is scary being in the car like that sometimes. I always make it home at least so far. :o

[OuchThatHurts]

If a supplement is making you that restless, and you can't work around it, I would stop taking it. Than again, Ouch is a DR/Scientist/nerd so he may know something I don't :p
His description makes me wonder if it's the dbol at all. Many people get restless OR want to sleep all the time. How many posts have we seen this? But the anxiety?? Usually dbol gives you an increased sense of well-being not the other way around. But everyone is different. Certainly you don't want anxiety because as we all know, anxiety will wear you out, kill your appetite, and worst, increase your cortisol levels. You want to stay anabolic not catabolic. I don't have the clinical pharmacology on methandrostenelone. It's not FDA approved. Maybe someone has a link to an insert or the manufacturer data on side effects.

TAX... HA! Officially, I'm only one of the three things you mentioned. I'll let you pick which one!

[hismadnessty]

My 2 cents:

don't mess with sleeping aids, they are WAY addicting, I have a good friend who can't get off. If a supplement is making you that restless, and you can't work around it, I would stop taking it. Than again, Ouch is a DR/Scientist/nerd so he may know something I don't :p

Agreed, Sleeping aids are fucking sketchy. They're like pringles, once you pop, you just can't stop. Their addictive as hell and I don't trust them. If you need help sleeping I'd suggest going the herbal route, it's a lot safer than pharmaceuticals.

[darkwingduck]

I'm taking D-bol and it feels like I'm on T4 and Clen, I wake up in the middle of the night in a pool of sweat. Just sitting around I sweat off 2 to 3 pounds, and in the gym I sweat off like a 3 gallon of sweat. What gives?

[OuchThatHurts]

I'm taking D-bol and it feels like I'm on T4 and Clen, I wake up in the middle of the night in a pool of sweat. Just sitting around I sweat off 2 to 3 pounds, and in the gym I sweat off like a 3 gallon of sweat. What gives?Honestly, I don't know. I don't react that way to it. Ever. Only thing that ever made me feel that way was tren but I never had anxiety. Not with anything. Not like I would with something like clen or ephedrine. A test/dbol cycle makes me want to do two things: sleep and eat.

What are your dosages? I usually do 50mg/day. I've done as high as 75mg/day with still no problems except that I looked a little 'inflated'.

[darkwingduck]

Oh don't get me wrong, most of the time that's all I want is to sleep and eat. But 50mg ED, there are nights that I sweat my ass off.

[crashbam]

Darkwing, I am having the same effects as you... I am also sweating constantly... So far it seems alright losing the extra water weight and puffyness, and still getting the strength gains. I now split up my dosages more not to take too much at once, and to take them early in the day... that seems to help the sleep situation.

[bmoore]

in my current cycle right now iam doing 75 MGS of D-Bol, and i cannot sleep, always sweating my ass off, drinking gallons of water, and not to mention the EXTREME LOWER BACK ACHES.

Brian

[darkwingduck]

Yeah it's very good to sweat the water retention off and rather than splitting 1/4 now I split 1/8 it helps alot. During the afternoon hours I'll take the 1/4 but there after I'll do 1/8.

[OuchThatHurts]

Agreed, Sleeping aids are fucking sketchy. They're like pringles, once you pop, you just can't stop. Their addictive as hell and I don't trust them. If you need help sleeping I'd suggest going the herbal route, it's a lot safer than pharmaceuticals.The mistake that everyone makes is that they begin to use the sleep aid to go to sleep every night while you should only use them long enough to get back into a normal sleep pattern and then put them away. When you're doing something that will keep your sleep patterns off (like being at high altitude for a long time) you need to find a natural remedy. Watch a reality show. If that doesn't put you to sleep, nothing will.

[CountVascular]

When the gear (as recommended by the legends on this site) arrives, I plan on spending my time awake by rooting the crap outta every woman that walks past.......Cant bloody wait - you see the mind is active, but the big fella is slow to respond!! Grrrrrrrrrrrr.....I cant almost hear my shippment in en-route, waiting to kick in!!!! Wood'n it be nice, as the song goes :D

[kimskid]

Same effects on me... Cant sleep and are sweating like crazy... but still working like d-bol... but never tried where i cant get sleep...


Last night i got 2-3 hours sleep... not good when i need it to grow :)

we are all using the same naposim tabs right??

[crashbam]

Yeah I'm using 5mg napoism... did a little test today... only took 2 dbol at 5am, started work at 6am, sweated my ass off, feel flushed, etc like usual til about 11am. Didn't take any since. It is now 4pm, and feel great, cooler, more tired, not sweating, or anxious, no palpatations. I don't think d-bol is for me. Never frontloaded any cycle b4... might just scrap the d-bol and finish my cycle as usual. I'm only 4 months off my last Sus/Deca cycle, don't think I need the frontloader. Now I'll give these to my friend and see how he reacts, like my little lab rat. He'll eat, take, drink anything. He has an iron stomach and iron liver. Hell I think his heart stopped working 2 years ago.

[OuchThatHurts]

Something is definitely not right there. That is NOT normal. The way you're talking, it sounds like clenbuterol or something...

Yeah I'm using 5mg napoism... did a little test today... only took 2 dbol at 5am, started work at 6am, sweated my ass off, feel flushed, etc like usual til about 11am. Didn't take any since. It is now 4pm, and feel great, cooler, more tired, not sweating, or anxious, no palpatations. I don't think d-bol is for me. Never frontloaded any cycle b4... might just scrap the d-bol and finish my cycle as usual. I'm only 4 months off my last Sus/Deca cycle, don't think I need the frontloader. Now I'll give these to my friend and see how he reacts, like my little lab rat. He'll eat, take, drink anything. He has an iron stomach and iron liver. Hell I think his heart stopped working 2 years ago.

[Tyrone]

Yeah I'm using 5mg napoism... did a little test today... only took 2 dbol at 5am, started work at 6am, sweated my ass off, feel flushed, etc like usual til about 11am. Didn't take any since. It is now 4pm, and feel great, cooler, more tired, not sweating, or anxious, no palpatations. I don't think d-bol is for me. Never frontloaded any cycle b4... might just scrap the d-bol and finish my cycle as usual. I'm only 4 months off my last Sus/Deca cycle, don't think I need the frontloader. Now I'll give these to my friend and see how he reacts, like my little lab rat. He'll eat, take, drink anything. He has an iron stomach and iron liver. Hell I think his heart stopped working 2 years ago.
I think I might too. My dad drank ED and is 55 or 60 by now. Hope he makes it to the up comming father's day. We had a rough time growing up and now I want to see him do so well. I think I have the same good genetics though with all the partying I used to do. Shit I was hard core! I challenge anyone to past insaneness. Past I say, don't try to top some one now. :eek:

[tatteredxangelx]

past insaneness tyrone?! 2 summers ago I went to the marijuana harvest festival in upstate new york ... basically it's like a drug flea market ... anyways within 20 minutes I took:

5 hits of acid
2 molly pills
lick of special k (how ever much that is?!)
1/4 mushrooms
gram of opium

++++ i was smokin and drinkin ...

I DO NOT know how I woke up in the morning ... or remember it for that matter, but i was high ... i guarentee in 4 years, I partied harder and did more regretable (not that i regret it) shit than anyyyybody here :p :D

***sry to hijack post :)***

[crashbam]

Ouchthathurts, Thats what I thought also... I looked it up on steroid.com or one of those and it's the same pic of the tab... a white round one with a triangle on it. But it definately feels like a clen or something. I'm not going to risk it, I made it this far without orals don't need to start now. In 13 years, and 10 cycles this was the funkiest side effect. It was nice loseing the water weight, being 5' 6'' and 253# when I weight in on Sunday, took the first 6 5mg tabs Monday, went to the gym Monday - Wed - Fri (today) weighed in at 241#. And that is with 8 50g protein shakes daily, 5 meals daily, cheat day thursday (pizza & beer) I was also getting incredible pumps. Powerful stuff.

[crashbam]

I'll give you insaneness... I'm married for 10 years, one daughter, house mortgage, 2 car payments, maried, boat payment, 2 ATV payments, future horney teenage boys after my daughter , married, college for daughter in future, run my own business, married, daughters car in the future, and did I mention I'm married... and I'm only 30!!! My wife does inject me though.

[tatteredxangelx]

everything seems rational crash, except for the horny teenage boys lmao ... that one sucks !!! good thing yer a juicehead for when they come to meet the parents!! haha good luck.

[crashbam]

hehe no kiddin'... btw what are molly pills???

[tatteredxangelx]

pure MDMA ... its like super ecstacy.

[OuchThatHurts]

Not to be a downer... but watch the rules there on the rec. drug talk... PM's are better for that...

That being said, dbol is probably my favorite behind test. I've always had great results from it. I've so many different flavors and some were weak and some were more potent, and some were totally bogus. Hmm... just gotta be a bad reaction or something.

Maybe dropping them is the best thing you can do. Just remember, losing EXCESS water is good but you're not just losing water, but electrolytes and all sorts of good stuff (vits and minerals)

maybe I'm just an old guy but I love to watch you guys reach your goals but for God's sake, not at the expense of your health. You CAN do this safely. And get checkups.... I do every month but every 3 is good enough... and so what? 170 bucks... it's worth it.

[CountVascular]

Ouchthathurts, Thats what I thought also... I looked it up on steroid.com or one of those and it's the same pic of the tab... a white round one with a triangle on it. But it definately feels like a clen or something. I'm not going to risk it, I made it this far without orals don't need to start now. In 13 years, and 10 cycles this was the funkiest side effect. It was nice loseing the water weight, being 5' 6'' and 253# when I weight in on Sunday, took the first 6 5mg tabs Monday, went to the gym Monday - Wed - Fri (today) weighed in at 241#. And that is with 8 50g protein shakes daily, 5 meals daily, cheat day thursday (pizza & beer) I was also getting incredible pumps. Powerful stuff.

Crikey, 5 meals PLUS 8 shakes - where do you get the space.....? AND you still lose 12 lbs - send me them pills NOW!!!!!

:)

NOW here is a good question for you. My colleague, big lad (but all fat) posed this question...how come when you are thin, and you get fat, your fella doesnt also get fat...he reckons if fat is spread evenly all over your body, how come he stays thin in the tackle department?

I know chics get fat ALL over...I am still seeing a shrink trying to get over the last fat chic I slept with...talk about waking up with the sweats :D

Hmmmm perhaps a phrase would be DiaBOLical!!!! LOL

[kimskid]

damn... imma still do the d-bol... :)


could there be a problem with the batch from naposim??? Alin what do you say???


kim

[Tyree33]

What up crashbam? I feel u when it comes to losing sleep and how to deal w/ it. I've been EXACTLY where your at and it can be a pretty tricky situation to deal w/. TatX had it right when he said that sleep-aids, even otc, can be difficult to use properly. First off, sleep aids rob u off REM sleep, the most important type of sleep; REM sleep is the quality sleep that your body needs the most to grow and repair itslef. Sleep-aids usually kick your ass and help U GET 2 SLEEP, but they also neglect to help w/ the deep sleep everyone needs. I'm not pretending to be a DR. by any means but I've been in your situation. If u have any more questions reagarding your inquiry feel free to PM me and I'll be more than happy to help u out bud.
-T-

[kimskid]

damn... think this d-bol is fucked... still gettin the effects of d-bol but with a twist.... :) sweating, and cant get no sleep... bummer...


kim

[crashbam]

Flyguy, Yeah My dad and I have the most ravenous appetite my friends and family have ever seen... They always said I have a tapeworm or something. When I was in highschool on the wrestling team I always remember everyone else starving themselves to suck weight, and I would be eating like a pig and never gain weight (one of the reasons for gear use). And when I say 5 meals I dont mean a meal bar for 2 of the meals... I do real meals, Meat, Burgerking, Mcdonalds, pizza, hoagies, wings, whatever I can get my hands on in a construction site. I tried the strict diets when I first started using gear, but the novelty wore off and it never made a difference for me... As long as I keep up with my protien I do ok. Last BFI I was 7% at 245... when I was in HS I was 171 and about 4%... I'm lucky there.

[crashbam]

Kimskid, I wouldnt say anyhting is wrong with the d-bol, I might have an allergy to it, or it doesn't agree with me or something... when I take vicodin I get all hyper and can't sleep, benadryl is the same and their supposed to make you sleepy. things do different thing to different people. I never did an oral b4 in my life and was just wondering if that was what to expect. So don't let my experience stop anyone from getting it. But I tell you what this stuff made me an animal at the gym.

[kimskid]

Kimskid, I wouldnt say anyhting is wrong with the d-bol, I might have an allergy to it, or it doesn't agree with me or something... when I take vicodin I get all hyper and can't sleep, benadryl is the same and their supposed to make you sleepy. things do different thing to different people. I never did an oral b4 in my life and was just wondering if that was what to expect. So don't let my experience stop anyone from getting it. But I tell you what this stuff made me an animal at the gym.

crashbam the thing is i did do 5mg naposim before... and didnt react like this....

[kimskid]

Hey update....



No crazy sides from the d-bol now... dont know what was wrong... :)


but now everything is good, at 40mg a day

[Tyrone]

Flyguy, Yeah My dad and I have the most ravenous appetite my friends and family have ever seen... They always said I have a tapeworm or something. When I was in highschool on the wrestling team I always remember everyone else starving themselves to suck weight, and I would be eating like a pig and never gain weight (one of the reasons for gear use). And when I say 5 meals I dont mean a meal bar for 2 of the meals... I do real meals, Meat, Burgerking, Mcdonalds, pizza, hoagies, wings, whatever I can get my hands on in a construction site. I tried the strict diets when I first started using gear, but the novelty wore off and it never made a difference for me... As long as I keep up with my protien I do ok. Last BFI I was 7% at 245... when I was in HS I was 171 and about 4%... I'm lucky there.
You fucking crazy animal motha! :D

[crashbam]

Sorry for being away for so long without an update. Well I stopped taking the D-bol last week, and no more of the sweats, palps, sleeplessness, and I feel great. My friend started on them Saturday 6/10 and he has none of the side effects I did. he has the same amount of cycles under his belt as I do, but I have 50+ lbs on him, he is taller,very lean and ripped, where I am bulkier and shorter, also he's 11 years older than I am. So were not really physically the same... so not really a controlled test. He feels good on it, no sweats, palps, good strength. So apparently they just don't do it for me. Sux... I was looking foreward to seeing what kind of gains I would have with this specific cycle. Oh well, at least my heart won't explode.