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Hugheser101
04-10-2010, 11:43 AM
Wondering basically the best way to transfer to PCT.

Weeks 1 to 8 - Sustanon 250mg 3XEW. Mon Morn, Wed Night, Saturday Morn.

Now the question is.

Should I run Winny 4-8 and then wait 2 weeks to start PCT

or

Run Winny 8-12 and start PCT after last day of Winstrol.

AlwaysBanned
04-10-2010, 12:59 PM
Run the winni alongside the test towards the end of the cycle.

Sustanon really needs 10 t0 12 weeks to run its course imo.

But...if you were to run an 8 week cycle, I would run the winni from week 4-8.

Hugheser101
04-11-2010, 08:22 AM
I heard the Testosterone Decanoate can last for up to a month?
So PCT 2 or 3 weeks after?

I got 50 amps, I could knock the dose down to 500mg/2XEW and run it for the full 12, and get 2 cycles out of the supply.

goldseasy
04-11-2010, 12:52 PM
^^ Better option, 500 will do just fine

Nice B/A in you avi (if that's what it is)

AlwaysBanned
04-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Agreed. 12 weeks at 500mg would yield better results. You could run the winni from week 8 to 12.

Pct starts two weeks after last shot. Use a single estered test next time.

goldseasy
04-12-2010, 06:23 AM
^^ Agreed....what's the obsession with sust on the board?

tinom
04-12-2010, 06:59 AM
^^ Better option, 500 will do just fine

Nice B/A in you avi (if that's what it is)

BUMP, and fuck sust Prop 4 life nigga lol

Hugheser101
04-12-2010, 07:05 AM
^^ Better option, 500 will do just fine

Nice B/A in you avi (if that's what it is)


Yeah that is my B/A shot, is 16 weeks old now though, 4 months post cycle and don't look quite like that anymore. Not benching 3 plates for reps, or deads with 5 plates anymore tho either soooooooo, does gear work?......I think so.

BUMP, and fuck sust Prop 4 life nigga lol

What's up there tinom, you jellin' yet or still waiting?

goldseasy
04-12-2010, 08:44 AM
BUMP, and fuck sust Prop 4 life nigga lol

I hear that

Prop

Prop

PROP

goldseasy
04-12-2010, 08:44 AM
[QUOTE=Hugheser101;297775]Yeah that is my B/A shot, is 16 weeks old now though, 4 months post cycle and don't look quite like that anymore. Not benching 3 plates for reps, or deads with 5 plates anymore tho either soooooooo, does gear work?......I think so.



Awesome leg development

AlwaysBanned
04-12-2010, 11:55 AM
PROP!

Hugheser101
04-13-2010, 06:38 AM
Agreed. 12 weeks at 500mg would yield better results. You could run the winni from week 8 to 12.

Pct starts two weeks after last shot. Use a single estered test next time.

What about the fast acting ethers wont they wear off and screw up blood levels in between such lengthy injections if I was to do it every Monday Morning and Thursday Night?

AlwaysBanned
04-13-2010, 12:27 PM
What about the fast acting ethers wont they wear off and screw up blood levels in between such lengthy injections if I was to do it every Monday Morning and Thursday Night?

Yes. They will. This is why sustanon sucks. The esters don't roll into each other the way they were intended. Clinical trials confirm this.

You could inject the stuff eod but you should have gotten prop alone for that.

Hugheser101
04-13-2010, 01:19 PM
Yes. They will. This is why sustanon sucks. The esters don't roll into each other the way they were intended. Clinical trials confirm this.

You could inject the stuff eod but you should have gotten prop alone for that.

Yeah that is true, once you get into the 3rd week the prop is irrelevant anyways, and the other ethers take over, so I could front load EOD for first 2 weeks?

AlwaysBanned
04-13-2010, 01:23 PM
Yeah that is true, once you get into the 3rd week the prop is irrelevant anyways, and the other ethers take over, so I could front load EOD for first 2 weeks?

Bro, just inject 2x a week. After week 4, you will be going hard on the long esters so it won't matter.

Frontloading would not help you here. If you want immediate release and a constant blood level of testosterone, shoot test prop eod.

That sustanon will do you good, its just gonna take a while. Is it stealth line?

Invrt
04-13-2010, 03:52 PM
Bro, just inject 2x a week. After week 4, you will be going hard on the long esters so it won't matter.

Frontloading would not help you here. If you want immediate release and a constant blood level of testosterone, shoot test prop eod.

That sustanon will do you good, its just gonna take a while. Is it stealth line?

~bump~ and OJS has an awesome post somewhere on here on how to use sust. I'll look for it.

Invrt
04-13-2010, 04:02 PM
Bingo !

http://alinboard.com/showthread.php?p=229371&highlight=sustanon#post229371

tinom
04-13-2010, 04:56 PM
Yeah that is my B/A shot, is 16 weeks old now though, 4 months post cycle and don't look quite like that anymore. Not benching 3 plates for reps, or deads with 5 plates anymore tho either soooooooo, does gear work?......I think so.



What's up there tinom, you jellin' yet or still waiting?

What up man, na I'm just standing by waiting for my "supps: to get here. Civilian life is fuckin boring man!!! I'd rather be in Afghan!

PROP 4 LIFE

Hugheser101
04-14-2010, 04:14 PM
Bingo !

http://alinboard.com/showthread.php?p=229371&highlight=sustanon#post229371

Good read, makes me feel like I got the wrong product. Why would anyone opt for Sus when it seems Test E or C is the way to go. I just wanted to try something different.

What up man, na I'm just standing by waiting for my "supps: to get here. Civilian life is fuckin boring man!!! I'd rather be in Afghan!

Damn, already out. Your going to school now right? Learning how to properly administer injections haha.

PROP 4 LIFE

Invrt
04-14-2010, 04:45 PM
Good read, makes me feel like I got the wrong product. Why would anyone opt for Sus when it seems Test E or C is the way to go.

Exactly !:cool:

tinom
04-14-2010, 05:20 PM
Not in school till septrmrbrt brother

Hugheser101
04-15-2010, 06:18 PM
Not in school till septrmrbrt brother

Cool well this year you should be able to get in a solid offseason and get that 204 to a 240 maybe haha.

Like the cycle

WEEKS 1-15, 100MGS STEALTH PROP EOD
WEEKS 8-15, 75MGS STEALTH TREN A EOD
WEEKS 1-15 CLEN 200 MCG W/ BENADRYL
WEEKS 1-14 T3 PYRAMID TO 100MCG
.25 ADEX EOD
500 IU HCG E5D
BROMO ONHAND IF NEEDED
STANDARD PCT

What do you think of T3 overall?

and have you tried stealth, kinda gave me the willys in regard to the packaging.

tinom
04-16-2010, 11:00 AM
Cool well this year you should be able to get in a solid offseason and get that 204 to a 240 maybe haha.

Like the cycle

WEEKS 1-15, 100MGS STEALTH PROP EOD
WEEKS 8-15, 75MGS STEALTH TREN A EOD
WEEKS 1-15 CLEN 200 MCG W/ BENADRYL
WEEKS 1-14 T3 PYRAMID TO 100MCG
.25 ADEX EOD
500 IU HCG E5D
BROMO ONHAND IF NEEDED
STANDARD PCT

What do you think of T3 overall?

and have you tried stealth, kinda gave me the willys in regard to the packaging.

I only used it along with clen on a bulker when I was eating 4500+ cals per day. we'll see how it works out in my cutter. Personally, I think the combo is great. No, I have only used Alins

Hugheser101
04-16-2010, 04:53 PM
I only used it along with clen on a bulker when I was eating 4500+ cals per day. we'll see how it works out in my cutter. Personally, I think the combo is great. No, I have only used Alins

Using Clen on a bulker eh? So you could keep calories high and fat down at the same time? I am on an ECA stack, and working like a charm with my keto diet right now. Got a show in 4 weeks from saturday.

tinom
04-16-2010, 05:03 PM
Using Clen on a bulker eh? So you could keep calories high and fat down at the same time? I am on an ECA stack, and working like a charm with my keto diet right now. Got a show in 4 weeks from saturday.

Exactly, I've been on Keto for about 1 month and a half now, and its working great by itself, light and moderate cardio too obviously. I just added 40mg of var ED for 10 weeks to my upcomming cycle, this should be my last cycle for awhile. good luck with the show brother!

Hugheser101
04-17-2010, 01:56 PM
Exactly, I've been on Keto for about 1 month and a half now, and its working great by itself, light and moderate cardio too obviously. I just added 40mg of var ED for 10 weeks to my upcomming cycle, this should be my last cycle for awhile. good luck with the show brother!

Thanks bro, I can't take the keto any longer. I am back on a low carb diet.

2600 Calories, 350g Protein, 125g Carbs and 40g Fat.

Abs clearly visible but need to really dial it in over the next few weeks. This is a picture from 3 weeks ago. I was 2 weeks out from the initial show I was going to do. Right now I am 4 weeks out from the show I plan on doing.

Hugheser101
04-17-2010, 01:58 PM
Not quite looking like that right now because I was home binge eating for a week, and when I say binge eating I mean eating until I threw up a couple times.

Eating disorder much? haha, I deserved it tho.

15,000 calories a day for a week will put on 20lbs of fat I found out.

tinom
04-17-2010, 02:36 PM
Not quite looking like that right now because I was home binge eating for a week, and when I say binge eating I mean eating until I threw up a couple times.

Eating disorder much? haha, I deserved it tho.

15,000 calories a day for a week will put on 20lbs of fat I found out.

LOL, that it will my friend. Looking good in the pic tho, nice work from where you started from. To tell you the truth im am getting sick of Keto also, as soon as I start my cycle im doing a 50/30/20, and honestly I cant fuckin wait. Binge eating huh? I'd rather binge drink, allot more fun and there is always the getting laid possibility at a bar. Infact I went out the other night and drank vodka and soda like a fuckin homo all night just to keep away from the carbs, but then again, I dont compete and never will.

Hugheser101
04-17-2010, 03:53 PM
LOL, that it will my friend. Looking good in the pic tho, nice work from where you started from. To tell you the truth im am getting sick of Keto also, as soon as I start my cycle im doing a 50/30/20, and honestly I cant fuckin wait. Binge eating huh? I'd rather binge drink, allot more fun and there is always the getting laid possibility at a bar. Infact I went out the other night and drank vodka and soda like a fuckin homo all night just to keep away from the carbs, but then again, I dont compete and never will.

Yeah I guess your right, wouldn't mind slaying a dragon or two but the libdo is definitley on the low end with the calorie restriction right now. Just gotta keep pushing it. I will be dieting thru my birthday as well which stinks but meh..... just another day really haha.