whats the diff

[medford13]

Test e / Test p I read so many peoples cycles why do people
Switch them up

[drob29]

one is short ester, the other is long ester. Dont you dare ask which is which bro....:cool:

[dudcki27]

one is short ester, the other is long ester. Dont you dare ask which is which bro....:cool:

Bump~

don't even think of doing a cycle until you do alot more research or your liable to screw yourself up. IMO

[medford13]

No no I know about the life of the stuff I ment more in the way of why people switch use
Over when they do most start with test e then switch to test p and why it that beneficial

[JonnyTest]

Test is all the same just with different Esters....They might choose to switch so they can be more accurate as to when the test is out of thier system and give them a better idea of when to start thier PCT. I however would rather start with the shorter Ester while i was waiting for the longer one to kick in, instead of taking an oral.

But if you reall had to ask this then i agree with the guys above and would say that you should read alot more and learn alot more before trying anything, i read about them for over a year before i decided what i was going to do and even then after i got my stuff i had changed my mind about what i wanted to do, you can only benefit yourself by reading more info and become more familliar with the stuff.

[drob29]

No no I know about the life of the stuff I ment more in the way of why people switch use
Over when they do most start with test e then switch to test p and why it that beneficial

ok thats a better question. Still basic, but valid

Test is all the same just with different Esters....They might choose to switch so they can be more accurate as to when the test is out of thier system and give them a better idea of when to start thier PCT.............

or allow them to start their PCT sooner as the ester clears quicker.

BUMP the rest of what Johhny said as well

[medford13]

jonnytest thank you. I'm trying to read as much as possible and ask as many people who are in the know questions before i try a single thing i still gotta drop about 30 pounds so i got 3 or 4 months to hammer all this out. hey jonnytest & Drob I have read alot of people
do orals the first couple of weeks they are on test whats your opinions on that

[drob29]

I have used dbol a bunch of times to begin a cycle, but I dont anymore. The thing is yeah, you get bigger and your lifts go up, but a few weeks after you stop your at the same place as if you didnt use them. I can say dont use dbol, because I am impatient too and they do work, just know its a quick hard on and not real gains.

If you really wanted to jump a long estered cycle run prop EOD for the first 3-4 weeks.

Naps are solid, BP dbol I have not used but reviews have been mixed. Go with the naps

my 2 cents.

[JonnyTest]

He said it all.... I have also tried D-bol but i think it gives you more bloat and water weight than anything and then if you wanna battle that you've gotta take something else. So now i run Prop if anything to start.

For your first i would just run a long estered Test, E or C and thats all, you will not want to do anything else you will get great results from just that and also if something goes wrong you will want to know what is causing it. Thats my opinion

[Alin]

Test e / Test p I read so many peoples cycles why do people
Switch them up

TEST PROP= SHORT ACTING 2-3 DAYS
TEST E= LONGER ACTING 7-10 DAYS ( I say 5-7 day here)

[medford13]

So if I started with test prop it would be like 250ml every three days how many weeks till I would switch to test e.
And would I double the dose when I switch

[wagnikon]

why do you want to switch? test is test. one is out of your system in 2 days and the other is out of your system in 10 days. start with one and stick with it.

if you are a newbie, which apparently you are if you haven't even figured out the dosages yet, keep it simple.

[medford13]

Oh ya I am and I agree with u the plan is 1cc test e every 7th day
That was just a scenario but I c so many posts with people switching
It makes it hard for a newbie like me to make sense of it all even
With all the reading I'm doing its still a lot to absorb

[Hoffmeister]

I am a newbie also, but my first cycle in 7 years is going to be test prop 150mg eod. I don't mind pinning myself, and I like the fact that prop acts fast, leaves the body fast, and allows you to play with the dose easily.

[medford13]

Hoffmeister have u ran the test p before

[Hoffmeister]

Nope, my one and only time I did AAS I was stupid and ran sustanon, deca and dbol. My hair fell out like crazy and when it did, i was stuck with sustanon (long ester) in my blood for ages. Turns out I think it was the dbol anyway as i hadnt been on for long enough for the sust to have such an effect.

Thats why I want to take prop now, so i can up or down the dose based upon sides. However, a lot of people on here recommend Test E or C above P for first time users as you dont have to inject so much

[medford13]

sux about your hair hope it grew back. hey drob invert jonnytest any one with a weath of knowledge. would bacteriostatic water be recommended with the test e injections

[JonnyTest]

What ? I have never heard of anyone doing that. Sometimes people will put Additional sterile oil in with test P to cause less pain

[medford13]

i really don't know anything about it i read a post, just from a google search saying it made growth last longer i know nothing about it and cant find anymore info into it. so just wanted to ask u heard anything about it.

[drob29]

sux about your hair hope it grew back. hey drob invert jonnytest any one with a weath of knowledge. would bacteriostatic water be recommended with the test e injections

i really don't know anything about it i read a post, just from a google search saying it made growth last longer i know nothing about it and cant find anymore info into it. so just wanted to ask u heard anything about it.

dude.....jesus christ. stop posting and start reading. Newbie A to Z. Use search button up top, click advanced search for a better filter.

Sooner or later (read: SOONER) someone here will reduce you to a smoldering pile of ash for asking another basic question.....:cool::cool:

[medford13]

Again drob your sage like advice has helped I was not aware of the advanced search
Your a hard charger and I respect that