3rd Cycle Advice

[kopfjager]

I'm a long time lurker, first time poster. I imagine I am probably a bit older than the majority of the board here, but this is me:

35 yo, did a couple of cycles back in college and have maintained the lifestyle since my high school days, up through the Marine Corps and into the present day real world. I am 5'-9", 200 lbs, about 12% bf. I am not looking for a huge mass cycle, just a few solid pounds and an extra kicker to help me lean out. This is what I am proposing for a 10 week cycle:

week 1 - 200mg deca, 10mg Anavar
week 2 - 200mg deca, 20mg Anavar
week 3 - 400mg deca, 30mg Anavar
week 4 - 400mg deca, 20mg Anavar
week 5 - 50mg Winny, 100mg primo
week 6 - 100mg Winny, 100mg primo
week 7 - 150mg Winny, 200mg primo
week 8 - 150mg Winny, 200mg primo
week 9 - 100mg primo
week 10 - 100mg primo

First off, any comments on that? In lieu of the primo during weeks 9 and 10, I was also thinking about dropping primo during 9-10. extending to 12 weeks and carrying deca in weeks 9-12, like so: 400mg/400mg/200mg/200mg. Any opinions on this would be appreciated, but my main question is regarding drugs commonly used during PCT. I am uncertain if I should throw in some proviron or arimidex or nolva or what. I was thinking of running arimidex during the course of the cycle, but then what for PCT? I want my boys doing their job normally as soon as possible. Gyno scares the balls offa me. Anyone care to teach an old dog some new knowledge?

[hismadnessty]

I'd increase the Deca to 400-600 mg/week for about 12 weeks. Also, when you pick a dosage stick with it. I wouldn't run a concentration pyramid as it may lead to unstable blood levels. I'd also suggest 50mg Winny/day for 5-6 weeks. The dex during cycle wouldn't hurt. Throw some Nolva in for PCT and you'd be good.

[Kaiser]

I'm a long time lurker, first time poster. I imagine I am probably a bit older than the majority of the board here, but this is me:

35 yo, did a couple of cycles back in college and have maintained the lifestyle since my high school days, up through the Marine Corps and into the present day real world. I am 5'-9", 200 lbs, about 12% bf. I am not looking for a huge mass cycle, just a few solid pounds and an extra kicker to help me lean out. This is what I am proposing for a 10 week cycle:

week 1 - 200mg deca, 10mg Anavar
week 2 - 200mg deca, 20mg Anavar
week 3 - 400mg deca, 30mg Anavar
week 4 - 400mg deca, 20mg Anavar
week 5 - 50mg Winny, 100mg primo
week 6 - 100mg Winny, 100mg primo
week 7 - 150mg Winny, 200mg primo
week 8 - 150mg Winny, 200mg primo
week 9 - 100mg primo
week 10 - 100mg primo

First off, any comments on that? In lieu of the primo during weeks 9 and 10, I was also thinking about dropping primo during 9-10. extending to 12 weeks and carrying deca in weeks 9-12, like so: 400mg/400mg/200mg/200mg. Any opinions on this would be appreciated, but my main question is regarding drugs commonly used during PCT. I am uncertain if I should throw in some proviron or arimidex or nolva or what. I was thinking of running arimidex during the course of the cycle, but then what for PCT? I want my boys doing their job normally as soon as possible. Gyno scares the balls offa me. Anyone care to teach an old dog some new knowledge?

First, at 35 years old, you're going to need some test thrown in there. I would suggest 500mg/week. Primo at 100mg/week is a womans cycle so 200mg/week is just going to basically waste your money because it is expensive, and to get something real out of it your going to have to move to 400mg/week. Deca dosage at 400mg is fine, but again don't waste your time with 200mg/week. Keep your Anavar static throughout your whole cycle if you can, and again 30mg/week is not going to do much on a man. Winny will help out and your can get some benefits from low dosages like use of it's built in anti-estrogen, and water shedding effects. I would however run it for the last 2 weeks of your cycle and start PCT. Believe me when I tell you buddy, the cycle you have laid out, is very inefficient and will not give you much besides pin holes. If you want a real cycle to work with I'll point you in the right direction:

For a 10 week cycle:
TestE @ 500mg/week Weeks 1-8 (250mg on M & Th)
Deca @ 400/week Weeks 1-8 (200mg on M & Th)
Anavar @ 40mg/day Weeks 1-8
Injectable Winny @ 50mg EOD 6-10

PCT starts the day after your last shot.

Holding off on the Primo, because it is really not going to make much of a difference with the cycle I just laid out.

[kopfjager]

For a 10 week cycle:
TestE @ 500mg/week Weeks 1-8 (250mg on M & Th)
Deca @ 400/week Weeks 1-8 (200mg on M & Th)
Anavar @ 40mg/day Weeks 1-8
Injectable Winny @ 50mg EOD 6-10

PCT starts the day after your last shot.

Holding off on the Primo, because it is really not going to make much of a difference with the cycle I just laid out.

Outstanding, I appreciate the info, Kaiser. I'm going to tack on some arimidex during the course of the 10 weeks, then nolva/clomid for PCT. Sound Solid?

[vnv]

1. You need to add testosterone. 500mg/week of enanthate or cypionate would be good.
2. Don't taper the anavar. There's no point really. And most people get best results from 40 - 60mg anavar/day, so my recommmendation is to run 40mg/day as long as you can, starting so that you end the var when your cycle is over (before PCT).
3. Don't taper the deca. Just use 400mg/week.
4. 200mg primo isn't enough. If you want to run primo, try 400.

Don't know about winny; it would make my hair fall out.

Good luck!

[vnv]

First, at 35 years old, you're going to need some test thrown in there. I would suggest 500mg/week. Primo at 100mg/week is a womans cycle so 200mg/week is just going to basically waste your money because it is expensive, and to get something real out of it your going to have to move to 400mg/week. Deca dosage at 400mg is fine, but again don't waste your time with 200mg/week. Keep your Anavar static throughout your whole cycle if you can, and again 30mg/week is not going to do much on a man. Winny will help out and your can get some benefits from low dosages like use of it's built in anti-estrogen, and water shedding effects. I would however run it for the last 2 weeks of your cycle and start PCT. Believe me when I tell you buddy, the cycle you have laid out, is very inefficient and will not give you much besides pin holes. If you want a real cycle to work with I'll point you in the right direction:

For a 10 week cycle:
TestE @ 500mg/week Weeks 1-8 (250mg on M & Th)
Deca @ 400/week Weeks 1-8 (200mg on M & Th)
Anavar @ 40mg/day Weeks 1-8
Injectable Winny @ 50mg EOD 6-10

PCT starts the day after your last shot.

Holding off on the Primo, because it is really not going to make much of a difference with the cycle I just laid out.Bingo. Kaiser's right on.

[1scuba]

You might want to throw 500iu of hcg every 4 or 5 days to keep the "twins" in good shape.

[Beetlejuice]

First of all I have to say I like the way that cycle is laid out Kaiser. I would not change a thing Kopfjager. I have never 100% agreed with anyone when they lay out cycles, but I cant say that anymore because someone finally laid one out I would do myself. You cannot go wrong with what kaiser said. Good job Kaiser.