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metallica
11-11-2005, 08:08 AM
i'm 190, 6'1", been working out for 4 years, etc. My next cycle is 50mg of BD winny tabs ED, 40mg Turanabol ED, and 250mg tren enanthate a week. My PCT will be nolvadex. How will my gains be? I didn't do test cuz test gives me crazy back acne and takes months to go away. And i have liv 52 for the 2 orals i'm taking

Ching
11-11-2005, 09:36 AM
How long is the cycle? I'm assuming your running the t-bol in the beginning and the winny at the end(and NOT running them concurrently through the entire cycle.)

Abjo24
11-11-2005, 05:01 PM
i'm 190, 6'1", been working out for 4 years, etc. My next cycle is 50mg of BD winny tabs ED, 40mg Turanabol ED, and 250mg tren enanthate a week. My PCT will be nolvadex. How will my gains be? I didn't do test cuz test gives me crazy back acne and takes months to go away. And i have liv 52 for the 2 orals i'm taking

Have you ever tried Test Prop? Reports say the side aren't nearly as likely due to the fact that it is in and out of your system in a few days.

theshiz777
11-12-2005, 07:02 AM
i'm 190, 6'1", been working out for 4 years, etc. My next cycle is 50mg of BD winny tabs ED, 40mg Turanabol ED, and 250mg tren enanthate a week. My PCT will be nolvadex. How will my gains be? I didn't do test cuz test gives me crazy back acne and takes months to go away. And i have liv 52 for the 2 orals i'm taking


dude you realy should run test in your cycle, your natural test is going to be shut down. You most likely get sexual dysfunction, lethargy/laziness. etc.

Looks like your cutting......I would def throw some test prop in that.....50mg/ed

metallica
11-12-2005, 01:11 PM
I don't want to inject everyday. That's why I'm doing winny tabs, so prop is out of the question. And I don't think getting an erection will be a problem. I have 50 pills of BD winny (50mg), and 200 BD Turanabol (10mg). I was going to run everything at once. My liver will be fine. I have liv 52. I'm cutting, sure, but i want to gain some weight, too. Tren, turanabol, and winny look like they'll gain about 10lbs of pure muscle, but i could be wrong. i don't want any acne, so no test

anaholic
11-12-2005, 01:30 PM
it just depends on the receptors and what they have an affinity for
Test is best for size and strength!

Gregalmighty
11-12-2005, 10:13 PM
You have a weak cycle plan first of all. If you dont like ED or EOD try Test E acouple times a week @500mg/week. You will not regret it. testtesttest

metallica
11-13-2005, 05:30 AM
i did test e twice already, and got back/shoulder acne both times. i just want to get lean muscle w/o acne

Gregalmighty
11-13-2005, 10:55 PM
Any test will give you some sort of breakout but you can combat that with a product called Accutane. do a search and read up on it. Available from Alin.

big49ersfan
11-23-2005, 08:10 PM
the acne on tren is reportly worse than on test bro i, so if acne is the only reason you are not running test i would reconsider the use of tren.

if you want to cut and minise acne i would condiser NPP/TBOL and Prov (im seriously thinking this i my next cycle as it has reportly less acne sides which is also a concern for me)

primo, winny, var are also good for no acne so iw ould conisider these above tren bro. Also ed shots of prop are supposed tobe decent for the acne

i broke out bad on myfirst cycle of deca/test/winny and dbol so my next cycle will def take into account acne.

mickeymbbc
11-23-2005, 08:28 PM
i'm 190, 6'1", been working out for 4 years, etc. My next cycle is 50mg of BD winny tabs ED, 40mg Turanabol ED, and 250mg tren enanthate a week. My PCT will be nolvadex. How will my gains be? I didn't do test cuz test gives me crazy back acne and takes months to go away. And i have liv 52 for the 2 orals i'm taking


LISTEN TO THE GUYS BRUTHA, YOUR CYCLE COULD GET ALOT BETTER.

If you are predisposed to acne, most likely you are going to get it no matter what kind of cycle that you run. You could come up with something alot better than that!!(are you afraid of pins??) Have you ever took tren before??? Please lay out your entire cycle and ENTIRE DIET so I can help you out, because you are going to need some help on this one??!@#



-mick

Tyree33
11-26-2005, 08:21 PM
yup!-yup!.